Paterno fired.... What a waste.

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Again, I am not saying they shouldn't have done something. But for those who've said that Paterno should be jailed for not having reported it himself...
Again, I am not saying they shouldn't have done something. But for those who've said that Paterno should be jailed for not having reported it himself, well, you have to break a law to be tried and convicted.

And it's curious that the person who actually witnessed the alleged abuse but didn't tell law enforcement is still employed at Penn State in the football program--probably getting a promotion now.
Yep I completely agree. They need to review those laws and get with the times.

I seriously hope that huff post article about the rumors turns out to be false.
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11/10/2011 4:14pm
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Yep I completely agree. They need to review those laws and get with the times. I seriously hope that huff post article about the rumors turns...
Yep I completely agree. They need to review those laws and get with the times.

I seriously hope that huff post article about the rumors turns out to be false.
ya think...... wholly shit balls.
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This whole ordeal just makes me fucking sick!

Between this and that vid posted the other day of that judge beating his teenage daughter, WTF IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE!!

I mentioned in that thread about how i was beat by a babysitter when i was just a toddler, (i dont remember any of it, but do know how it fully affected my life) so anytime i hear of any kind of child abuse, it seriously makes my blood fucking boil. Angry
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This whole ordeal just makes me fucking sick! Between this and that vid posted the other day of that judge beating his teenage daughter, WTF IS...
This whole ordeal just makes me fucking sick!

Between this and that vid posted the other day of that judge beating his teenage daughter, WTF IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE!!

I mentioned in that thread about how i was beat by a babysitter when i was just a toddler, (i dont remember any of it, but do know how it fully affected my life) so anytime i hear of any kind of child abuse, it seriously makes my blood fucking boil. Angry
You were probably a little prick all hopped up on redbull and pop rocks... I would of kicked your baby ass...........Huh

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11/10/2011 5:02pm
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Here's how I see it. If JoePa wouldn't of told the university he would be crucified for NOT TELLING anyone. But that's not what happened. He...
Here's how I see it.

If JoePa wouldn't of told the university he would be crucified for NOT TELLING anyone.

But that's not what happened.

He told the university. So now he's in trouble for not doing more?


I'm not sure what he's expected to do.
Let's see so your saying that your moral compass is confused about what should have been done or what anybody with an ounce of intelligence would have expected to happen?? Here let me help you a little bit; Paterno's right hand man, the heir to the head coach position at Penn State, is investigated for blowing an 11 year old in the showers, AW you're right that wouldn't cause you concern. Then four years later, a kid that you've known since high school, who played qb for you and who you made a GA comes to you and says Coach, I saw Coach Sandusky ass fucking a TEN YEAR OLD LITTLE BOY IN THE PENN STATE LOCKER ROOM, you are not bothered that Joe Paterno, the God Almighty of Pennsylvania football and the Pillar of College Sports morality, DOESN'T EVER FOLLOW UP? Nope he never, not once, ever checked to find out what happened? He wasn't even interested in how anyone could ever accuse his former right hand man, emeritus coach, CEO of a group that aids little boys is anything less than A OK? In fact Paterno was so comfortable he didn't even bother to check and see if it would be prudent to continue to allow Sandusky access to the office and access to the program for nearly ten more years.

Yep its all so clear now and I can see how you would be confused and not understand what people expected Joe Paterno to do...
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The crime of misprision still exists in England, but it has never been fully embraced in the United States. The first Congress passed a misprision of felony statute in 1789. The statute holds, "Whoever, having knowledge of the actual commission of a felony … conceals and does not as soon as possible make known the same to some judge or other person in civil or military authority under the United States" is guilty of misprision of felony and can be punished with up to three years in prison.

Under the federal statute, the prosecution must prove the following elements to obtain a misprision of felony conviction: (1) another person actually committed a felony; (2) the defendant knew that the felony was committed; (3) the defendant did not notify any law enforcement or judicial officer; and (4) the defendant took affirmative steps to conceal the felony. Precisely what constitutes active concealment is a Question of Fact that depends on the circumstances of the case. Lying to a police officer satisfies the requirement, but beyond that generally accepted rule, little is certain about the definition of active concealment.

Almost every state has rejected the crime of misprision of felony. Thus, persons are under no duty to report a crime. One policy reason for rejecting misprision is that the crime is vague and difficult to apply to real situations. Another reason is that the crime is seen as an unacceptable encroachment on civil freedom. In 1822 the U.S. Supreme Court cautioned against misuse of the misprision of felony statute, stating, "It may be the duty of a citizen to … proclaim every offense which comes to his knowledge; but the law which would punish him in every case, for not performing this duty, is too harsh" (Marbury v. Brooks, 20 U.S. [7 Wheat.] 556, 5 L. Ed. 522).
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11/10/2011 5:47pm
i just glanced through most of this, but has anyone mentioned the fact that the DA who was original in charge of this case is dead and his computer was found in a lake...without the hard drive...

there's far more to this case...

after litigation, Penn State will be lucky to be able to field a team.

initial reports suggest that the list of victims will grow from the current of 20 to possibly over 40, and settling could cost Penn State hundreds of millions of dollars.
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oh yeah, and good riddance to JoePa...as far as i am concerned he should be ass raped in prison right next to Sandusky and McQueary.
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11/10/2011 5:52pm
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i just glanced through most of this, but has anyone mentioned the fact that the DA who was original in charge of this case is dead...
i just glanced through most of this, but has anyone mentioned the fact that the DA who was original in charge of this case is dead and his computer was found in a lake...without the hard drive...

there's far more to this case...

after litigation, Penn State will be lucky to be able to field a team.

initial reports suggest that the list of victims will grow from the current of 20 to possibly over 40, and settling could cost Penn State hundreds of millions of dollars.
You mean the DA who didn't believe Sandusky the first time but couldn't get a green light to try the case... you mean the DA who was investigating the 2002 allegations.... Ya there is more to the story.

And you're wrong it is going to cost the people of Pennsylvania hundreds of millions of dollars...
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11/10/2011 5:58pm
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i just glanced through most of this, but has anyone mentioned the fact that the DA who was original in charge of this case is dead...
i just glanced through most of this, but has anyone mentioned the fact that the DA who was original in charge of this case is dead and his computer was found in a lake...without the hard drive...

there's far more to this case...

after litigation, Penn State will be lucky to be able to field a team.

initial reports suggest that the list of victims will grow from the current of 20 to possibly over 40, and settling could cost Penn State hundreds of millions of dollars.
I never heard of this dead DA and missing hard drive, holy shit!

"oh yeah, and good riddance to JoePa...as far as i am concerned he should be ass raped in prison right next to Sandusky and McQueary. "
exactly
11/10/2011 7:08pm
From All of us that pay tuition here At Penn State and know how things work in this town Go Fuck your self....That is all
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11/10/2011 7:14pm
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The crime of misprision still exists in England, but it has never been fully embraced in the United States. The first Congress passed a misprision of...
The crime of misprision still exists in England, but it has never been fully embraced in the United States. The first Congress passed a misprision of felony statute in 1789. The statute holds, "Whoever, having knowledge of the actual commission of a felony … conceals and does not as soon as possible make known the same to some judge or other person in civil or military authority under the United States" is guilty of misprision of felony and can be punished with up to three years in prison.

Under the federal statute, the prosecution must prove the following elements to obtain a misprision of felony conviction: (1) another person actually committed a felony; (2) the defendant knew that the felony was committed; (3) the defendant did not notify any law enforcement or judicial officer; and (4) the defendant took affirmative steps to conceal the felony. Precisely what constitutes active concealment is a Question of Fact that depends on the circumstances of the case. Lying to a police officer satisfies the requirement, but beyond that generally accepted rule, little is certain about the definition of active concealment.

Almost every state has rejected the crime of misprision of felony. Thus, persons are under no duty to report a crime. One policy reason for rejecting misprision is that the crime is vague and difficult to apply to real situations. Another reason is that the crime is seen as an unacceptable encroachment on civil freedom. In 1822 the U.S. Supreme Court cautioned against misuse of the misprision of felony statute, stating, "It may be the duty of a citizen to … proclaim every offense which comes to his knowledge; but the law which would punish him in every case, for not performing this duty, is too harsh" (Marbury v. Brooks, 20 U.S. [7 Wheat.] 556, 5 L. Ed. 522).
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11/10/2011 7:16pm
From All of us that pay tuition here At Penn State and know how things work in this town Go Fuck your self....That is all
Nice!! I think the light of day is coming to your neck of the woods buddy boy. I hope you enjoy defending a pedophile, his enablers and the dumb fucks like yourself that some how have deluded yourself into thinking this is all made up.
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From All of us that pay tuition here At Penn State and know how things work in this town Go Fuck your self....That is all
Were you one of the hoodlums tipping over vehicles when Paterno got shit canned?
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From All of us that pay tuition here At Penn State and know how things work in this town Go Fuck your self....That is all
I didn't realize that Penn State had programs for those who want to become Catholic Priest.
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11/10/2011 7:23pm
From All of us that pay tuition here At Penn State and know how things work in this town Go Fuck your self....That is all
Wow you made an account just to tell us to fuck off ?? Woo hoo you go plane boy I mean go get out of here Wink

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From All of us that pay tuition here At Penn State and know how things work in this town Go Fuck your self....That is all
Dude, I insist on much better bait if you want me to bite.

Try again.
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11/10/2011 7:28pm
From All of us that pay tuition here At Penn State and know how things work in this town Go Fuck your self....That is all
Wow you made an account just to tell us to fuck off ?? Woo hoo you go plane boy I mean go get out of here...
Wow you made an account just to tell us to fuck off ?? Woo hoo you go plane boy I mean go get out of here Wink

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It's more that likely some clown with multiple accounts that gets off on screwing with people.
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11/10/2011 7:29pm
From All of us that pay tuition here At Penn State and know how things work in this town Go Fuck your self....That is all
Wow you made an account just to tell us to fuck off ?? Woo hoo you go plane boy I mean go get out of here...
Wow you made an account just to tell us to fuck off ?? Woo hoo you go plane boy I mean go get out of here Wink

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jmar wrote:
It's more that likely some clown with multiple accounts that gets off on screwing with people.
I'll bet he likes gladiator movies too
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From All of us that pay tuition here At Penn State and know how things work in this town Go Fuck your self....That is all
Nice.

Didn't know Penn State offered a Doctorate in Douchbaggery .
11/10/2011 7:35pm Edited Date/Time 11/10/2011 7:41pm
I see your perspective and I don't disagree with you guys.

BUT

I do also see Joe's perspective.

Picture a close friend who you've known and worked with for YEARS.
Another coworker comes and tells you information that goes against everything you've ever known about your friend.
Would your first reaction be to go to the police?
My gut tells me that I wouldn't immediately be too inclined to get the police involved in a situation regarding hearsay.
Joe instead picks another route and tells administrators KNOWING that they are LEGALLY responsible for getting to the bottom of things like this.
He tells them - YEARS go by; Joe likely assumes that the university investigated the incident and found nothing.


While I see his perspective, I do agree with you guys, he should have informed the police.
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From All of us that pay tuition here At Penn State and know how things work in this town Go Fuck your self....That is all
We are all starting to see how things work in your town.
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Wow you made an account just to tell us to fuck off ?? Woo hoo you go plane boy I mean go get out of here...
Wow you made an account just to tell us to fuck off ?? Woo hoo you go plane boy I mean go get out of here Wink

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jmar wrote:
It's more that likely some clown with multiple accounts that gets off on screwing with people.
WORCSRacer wrote:
I'll bet he likes gladiator movies too
And naked man boy art.
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11/10/2011 7:39pm
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I see your perspective and I don't disagree with you guys. BUT I do also see Joe's perspective. Picture a close friend who you've known and...
I see your perspective and I don't disagree with you guys.

BUT

I do also see Joe's perspective.

Picture a close friend who you've known and worked with for YEARS.
Another coworker comes and tells you information that goes against everything you've ever known about your friend.
Would your first reaction be to go to the police?
My gut tells me that I wouldn't immediately be too inclined to get the police involved in a situation regarding hearsay.
Joe instead picks another route and tells administrators KNOWING that they are LEGALLY responsible for getting to the bottom of things like this.
He tells them - YEARS go by; Joe likely assumes that the university investigated the incident and found nothing.


While I see his perspective, I do agree with you guys, he should have informed the police.
That sounds fine and dandy if the guy was stealing sports equipment but HE WAS ASS RAPING A 10 YEAR OLD BOY!!!
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11/10/2011 7:46pm
TripleFive wrote:
I see your perspective and I don't disagree with you guys. BUT I do also see Joe's perspective. Picture a close friend who you've known and...
I see your perspective and I don't disagree with you guys.

BUT

I do also see Joe's perspective.

Picture a close friend who you've known and worked with for YEARS.
Another coworker comes and tells you information that goes against everything you've ever known about your friend.
Would your first reaction be to go to the police?
My gut tells me that I wouldn't immediately be too inclined to get the police involved in a situation regarding hearsay.
Joe instead picks another route and tells administrators KNOWING that they are LEGALLY responsible for getting to the bottom of things like this.
He tells them - YEARS go by; Joe likely assumes that the university investigated the incident and found nothing.


While I see his perspective, I do agree with you guys, he should have informed the police.
So you're saying that because he's your bestest buddy, your not going to believe or follow up on AN EYEWITNESS ACCOUNT from a kid you have known for over a decade (since he was a boy and a former player you'd given a scholarship to and subsequently hired) of your good ol' buddy Jerry raping a ten year old in the ass in your locker room.

Oh ya now that you put it that way, I can see where we have got it all wrong.
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The crime of misprision still exists in England, but it has never been fully embraced in the United States. The first Congress passed a misprision of...
The crime of misprision still exists in England, but it has never been fully embraced in the United States. The first Congress passed a misprision of felony statute in 1789. The statute holds, "Whoever, having knowledge of the actual commission of a felony … conceals and does not as soon as possible make known the same to some judge or other person in civil or military authority under the United States" is guilty of misprision of felony and can be punished with up to three years in prison.

Under the federal statute, the prosecution must prove the following elements to obtain a misprision of felony conviction: (1) another person actually committed a felony; (2) the defendant knew that the felony was committed; (3) the defendant did not notify any law enforcement or judicial officer; and (4) the defendant took affirmative steps to conceal the felony. Precisely what constitutes active concealment is a Question of Fact that depends on the circumstances of the case. Lying to a police officer satisfies the requirement, but beyond that generally accepted rule, little is certain about the definition of active concealment.

Almost every state has rejected the crime of misprision of felony. Thus, persons are under no duty to report a crime. One policy reason for rejecting misprision is that the crime is vague and difficult to apply to real situations. Another reason is that the crime is seen as an unacceptable encroachment on civil freedom. In 1822 the U.S. Supreme Court cautioned against misuse of the misprision of felony statute, stating, "It may be the duty of a citizen to … proclaim every offense which comes to his knowledge; but the law which would punish him in every case, for not performing this duty, is too harsh" (Marbury v. Brooks, 20 U.S. [7 Wheat.] 556, 5 L. Ed. 522).
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11/11/2011 4:13am Edited Date/Time 11/11/2011 5:06am
Now being reported on the news that because of threats McQueary will NOT coach this weekend.......
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11/11/2011 4:14am
Read this report dipshit... Paterno should be brought up on charges... that is all !!!!!
11/11/2011 5:19am
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Read this report dipshit... Paterno should be brought up on charges... that is all !!!!!
Charges of what?
What laws did he violate?

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