RC says JS7 to NASCAR will take a while

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From Sports Illustrated:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/brant_james/10/27/nascar…

It would be NASCAR's dream race in many ways: Ricky Carmichael, Travis Pastrana, James Stewart on the grid of the Daytona 500, legions of 18-to-39-somethings huddled around televisions and smart devices, breathlessly watching this triumvirate of motocracy as it prepared to compete in Sprint Cup's premier event. Oh, the brand new merchandise they would be wearing. Oh, the loyalty for their new sport of choice bursting from their young and impressionable hearts as they follow their motocross/supercross/action sports heroes loyally to their new vocation.

It might happen, Carmichael said. But it won't happen anytime soon. And he says that with the best perspective of any of his fellow two-wheel legends (Pastrana has a background in rally and some developmental series experience). Four years into his NASCAR career, the 31-year-old motocross legend says that the conversion to stock cars is incredibly difficult, too difficult to be rushed if success is the ultimate goal. With Pastrana's NASCAR debut now delayed until next season after breaking his foot and ankle in an X Games "Best Trick" crash in July, and Stewart even further away with unfinished supercross and motocross business (he says he wants races bikes for at least the next three seasons) after signing with Joe Gibbs Racing's motocross team this week, this story, Carmichael said, will have to wait even longer because of the "steeping learning curve."

"It would be cool to race him [Stewart] and Travis and all those guys," Carmichael said in a phone interview. "It's definitely a cool story. Not too many people can say they've raced in two completely different sports together. As cool as it would be, I think it would be a long way down the road. I have three years under my belt and it takes a long time."

Elementally, Carmichael said, conforming a motorcycle to the driver's will is easier than the same task with a stock car. And it doesn't matter the quality of the will or the talent.

"Man vs. machine, it's probably 70-percent-to-80-percent man, 20 percent machine in motocross and that's backwards in car racing," said Carmichael, who has a record 15 championships and 150 wins combined in motocross and supercross. "Obviously, these guys are very skilled, they're the best at what they do in stock car racing, but it's hard to make lemonade out of lemons in car racing.

"There's so many more things you can do on a motorcycle to manipulate the motorcycle. It's two less wheels to worry about, less moving parts to worry about. You can manhandle the machine more. Car racing, there is just a lot more things happening underneath the hood and how things work and people setting the car up. These motorcycles, a lot of them, you can hop on and win on, which in car racing -- it's not really like that. It's about how it's set up and how good your equipment is."

And even if a driver is willing to log the hours to learn such a skill, Carmichael said, NASCAR's testing limitations prevent them from doing so.

"It's so much different than motocross because he's not going to be able to go out there and outwork everyone, as maybe his strategy was in motocross and supercross," Carmichael said. "That's what my strategy was. That was no secret. That was how we won, outworked everybody. It's tough, so you have to find ways to be better, better yourself other than testing."

Carmichael, who said he is friendly with his fellow Floridian but hadn't discussed NASCAR with Stewart, said the 25-year-old would be wise to concentrate on one regimen at a time, especially if his stated goal is to surpass Jeremy McGrath's all-time supercross wins record of 72. Stewart is currently third all-time with 42 (Carmichael is second with 48) after consecutive injury-marred seasons. Stewart, however, seems eager to dabble, immediately.

"I look at the future, and I think car racing is the future, sure," Stewart said. "But I have a lot of things I want to accomplish on the motorcycle, and the first thing I want to do is win a championship for these guys. ... I'm going to get my feet wet with that [car racing]; in fact, in a few weeks, I'm going to test one out. But for now my main focus is to win a championship on this motorcycle."

Carmichael, who expects to return to Turner Motorsports in the Truck Series and run selected Nationwide events next year, said he had a "three-year plan" when he signed with the now-defunct Ginn Racing in 2006 as he prepared to transition from arguably the greatest motocross career in the sport's history to NASCAR. Carmichael, said he thinks "NASCAR would be pumped if I was in there, either Nationwide or Sprint Cup. I think they'd be happier than me racing in Truck, for sure," but added that he doesn't want "to commit career suicide by moving too early. The people I lean on say do not move up too early."

He has 18 starts in the developmental K&N East Series, seven in ARCA, 65 in the Truck Series and seven in Nationwide since 2008. Carmichael was fourth in the ARCA-opener at Daytona this season and fourth in the Trucks race at Talladega last week, tying a career-best. JGR appears to have Carmichael on an expedited schedule -- he is scheduled to test a Lade Model within the next few weeks and hopes to make spot starts in the K&N and Nationwide Series in 2012 -- which Carmichael finds unwise.

"For someone like me or Travis, and James, we don't know what is really going to happen," Carmichael said. "I do know this: Yeah, we want to be in Sprint Cup. It would be great if I could make it there. That's what I want to do and I won't be happy until I get there. It takes time to do it right. The worst thing you can do is rush into this and think you're going to set the world on fire.

"Everyone wants to rush into the Nationwide Series. It's the first thing they want to do. I totally disagree with it. I think you need to do some Late Model racing or East Series and then to Truck and then move on up. I really do. Basically, everyone racing in the Nationwide Series was awesome in truck. Hell, everybody in Cup Series has won a bunch of races in the Nationwide Series. There's a reason they race on Sunday."



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10/27/2011 1:13pm
This sentence had me thinking that RC is working with JGR, but it's a typo. It should say Stewart.

"JGR appears to have Carmichael on an expedited schedule -- he is scheduled to test a Lade Model within the next few weeks and hopes to make spot starts in the K&N and Nationwide Series in 2012 -- which Carmichael finds unwise."
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10/27/2011 1:19pm
This sentence had me thinking that RC is working with JGR, but it's a typo. It should say Stewart. "JGR appears to have [b]Carmichael [/b]on an...
This sentence had me thinking that RC is working with JGR, but it's a typo. It should say Stewart.

"JGR appears to have Carmichael on an expedited schedule -- he is scheduled to test a Lade Model within the next few weeks and hopes to make spot starts in the K&N and Nationwide Series in 2012 -- which Carmichael finds unwise."
yeah i picked that up after a couple pass overs...

good insight from Ricky. the thing is, Stewart could be a total natural at it, but that won't matter because you have to have the whole package in car racing.
10/27/2011 1:22pm
I think Bubba has proven he has concentration issues in the last year or so, perhaps from ringing his bell?

You can't have brain farts in a pack at 190mph.

I worked for a summer at an auto racing school, and it is much more complicated then most think to go fast in a car.
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10/27/2011 1:43pm
What does this mean?

"And even if a driver is willing to log the hours to learn such a skill, Carmichael said, NASCAR's testing limitations prevent them from doing so."

NASCAR limits the amount of testing and practicing a driver can do?

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10/27/2011 1:47pm
motosmith wrote:
What does this mean? [b]"And even if a driver is willing to log the hours to learn such a skill, Carmichael said, NASCAR's testing limitations prevent...
What does this mean?

"And even if a driver is willing to log the hours to learn such a skill, Carmichael said, NASCAR's testing limitations prevent them from doing so."

NASCAR limits the amount of testing and practicing a driver can do?
for money reasons, you can only test at tracks where the big 3 dont race (Sprint Cup, Nationwide, and Camping World Truck Series)

so that means no testing at any 1.5-2 mile ovals or short tracks like Martinsville and Bristol.

you can only test at NASCAR sanctioned tests or at tracks like South Boston and Bowman-Grey Stadium on your own dime.
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10/27/2011 1:49pm
or in your case Motosmith...Evergreen Speedway or Spokane County Raceway.
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motosmith wrote:
What does this mean? [b]"And even if a driver is willing to log the hours to learn such a skill, Carmichael said, NASCAR's testing limitations prevent...
What does this mean?

"And even if a driver is willing to log the hours to learn such a skill, Carmichael said, NASCAR's testing limitations prevent them from doing so."

NASCAR limits the amount of testing and practicing a driver can do?
testing rules ave changed a lot but he still will be able to test and stuff but im pretty sure unless nascar schedules the test it has to be at a non nascar track sohed be limited to some short tracks and road coarse and not speedways where they mainly run
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10/27/2011 1:51pm Edited Date/Time 10/27/2011 1:53pm
motosmith wrote:
What does this mean? [b]"And even if a driver is willing to log the hours to learn such a skill, Carmichael said, NASCAR's testing limitations prevent...
What does this mean?

"And even if a driver is willing to log the hours to learn such a skill, Carmichael said, NASCAR's testing limitations prevent them from doing so."

NASCAR limits the amount of testing and practicing a driver can do?
It is not like MX, there are not NASCAR practice tracks in these guys yards where they drive during the week. Practice and testing is not so useful unless it is on the track you will be racing on that week.
10/27/2011 1:54pm
The testing is one reason they need to race in a lower series to get a lot of seat time, and understand the dynamics of a car.
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10/27/2011 2:11pm
Article also gives some insight as to why JGR wanted Bubba so bad. His presence would obviously bring some younger fans to the sport.
Would be pretty cool to have RC, Stewart and Travis racing each other.
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Article also gives some insight as to why JGR wanted Bubba so bad. His presence would obviously bring some younger fans to the sport. Would be...
Article also gives some insight as to why JGR wanted Bubba so bad. His presence would obviously bring some younger fans to the sport.
Would be pretty cool to have RC, Stewart and Travis racing each other.
This is why there is going to be a ton of pressure on Bubba to make the switch sooner than later, Nascar isnt growing the way it did 5 or 10 years ago, they need to infuse more fans, younger fans and more diversified fans. I keep beating the drum but I really think Stewart will be fast tracked into the car, SX doesnt mean nearly as much to JGR as Nascar or Nationwide and they need him a hell of lot more in the car at this point.
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you james already has a deal with jgr to race cars and trucks......no way it wasnt part of the deal!
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10/27/2011 3:09pm
blalbla

i wonder why no GP riders move up to F1 after their careers are over? lol...
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10/27/2011 3:10pm
oh..and a black nascar driver isnt going to make it anymore interesting then it already is.

4 hours later and 500 circle laps completed..james stewart will still be black and all the non-white fans will be bored as shit.
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mxpunk wrote:
oh..and a black nascar driver isnt going to make it anymore interesting then it already is. 4 hours later and 500 circle laps completed..james stewart will...
oh..and a black nascar driver isnt going to make it anymore interesting then it already is.

4 hours later and 500 circle laps completed..james stewart will still be black and all the non-white fans will be bored as shit.
james style will make it interesting and imo hes going to damage some cars just look at his first offroad truck race he flipped in qualifying people dont give enough credit to nascar drivers as the should i mean if it was so easy shouldnt ricky already be winning races?
10/27/2011 3:34pm
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blalbla

i wonder why no GP riders move up to F1 after their careers are over? lol...
You can't just "move up" to F-1

You need to qualify for a Superlicense
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mxpunk wrote:
oh..and a black nascar driver isnt going to make it anymore interesting then it already is. 4 hours later and 500 circle laps completed..james stewart will...
oh..and a black nascar driver isnt going to make it anymore interesting then it already is.

4 hours later and 500 circle laps completed..james stewart will still be black and all the non-white fans will be bored as shit.
You have no idea what that would do to viewership of NASCAR. Boring or not, Bubba will be an unbelievable draw when he switches. He will be on the cover of Sports Illustrated some day, before he even does anything special in a car. You watch how much face time Bubba gets on mainstream TV when this happens. In fact it's already started as he's been on a multitude of NASCAR shows already discussing this signing. People that never would have watched NASCAR will be watching to see what he does. His MX income will look like chump change when he makes the move.
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mxpunk wrote:
blalbla

i wonder why no GP riders move up to F1 after their careers are over? lol...
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You can't just "move up" to F-1

You need to qualify for a Superlicense
were you just Mario before you qualified for a SuperMario?
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"It would be cool to race him [Stewart] and Travis and all those guys," Carmichael said in a phone interview. "It's definitely a cool story. Not too many people can say they've raced in two completely different sports together. As cool as it would be, I think it would be a long way down the road. I have three years under my belt and it takes a long time."

Ricky used his weekly allotment of "cool's" in just one paragraph..
10/27/2011 4:00pm
mxpunk wrote:
oh..and a black nascar driver isnt going to make it anymore interesting then it already is. 4 hours later and 500 circle laps completed..james stewart will...
oh..and a black nascar driver isnt going to make it anymore interesting then it already is.

4 hours later and 500 circle laps completed..james stewart will still be black and all the non-white fans will be bored as shit.
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You have no idea what that would do to viewership of NASCAR. Boring or not, Bubba will be an unbelievable draw when he switches. He will...
You have no idea what that would do to viewership of NASCAR. Boring or not, Bubba will be an unbelievable draw when he switches. He will be on the cover of Sports Illustrated some day, before he even does anything special in a car. You watch how much face time Bubba gets on mainstream TV when this happens. In fact it's already started as he's been on a multitude of NASCAR shows already discussing this signing. People that never would have watched NASCAR will be watching to see what he does. His MX income will look like chump change when he makes the move.
DING-DING-DING

He gets a ride cause he is a BLACK MAN...same way DANICA gets a ride because she has T&A

Marketing 101

NASCAR didn't get to be where they are by racing around port a poos week in week out.
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10/27/2011 4:08pm
Bubba won't make it in Nascar, he doesn't have the skill set or the ability or patience to race without winning every time. Most the guys out there now have been racing since they were kids....
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10/27/2011 4:20pm Edited Date/Time 10/27/2011 4:24pm
The great thing for new NASCAR drivers these days is you have iRacing to learn the tracks, no other simulation available to the public has officially licensed laser scanned tracks. The tracks are so accurate (especially with the bump mapping of the surface) many pro drivers have practiced before a race and mostly only have to focus on the car setup/driving instead of learning the track at the same time.
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mxpunk wrote:
oh..and a black nascar driver isnt going to make it anymore interesting then it already is. 4 hours later and 500 circle laps completed..james stewart will...
oh..and a black nascar driver isnt going to make it anymore interesting then it already is.

4 hours later and 500 circle laps completed..james stewart will still be black and all the non-white fans will be bored as shit.
RaceFace wrote:
You have no idea what that would do to viewership of NASCAR. Boring or not, Bubba will be an unbelievable draw when he switches. He will...
You have no idea what that would do to viewership of NASCAR. Boring or not, Bubba will be an unbelievable draw when he switches. He will be on the cover of Sports Illustrated some day, before he even does anything special in a car. You watch how much face time Bubba gets on mainstream TV when this happens. In fact it's already started as he's been on a multitude of NASCAR shows already discussing this signing. People that never would have watched NASCAR will be watching to see what he does. His MX income will look like chump change when he makes the move.
SuperMario wrote:
DING-DING-DING He gets a ride cause he is a BLACK MAN...same way DANICA gets a ride because she has T&A Marketing 101 NASCAR didn't get to...
DING-DING-DING

He gets a ride cause he is a BLACK MAN...same way DANICA gets a ride because she has T&A

Marketing 101

NASCAR didn't get to be where they are by racing around port a poos week in week out.
It's the same reason Travis is going straight to Nationwide. There is no way he has done anything to go straight there, but because he's Pastrami...... The day they announced his signing with Waltrip they were getting flooded with calls and emails from kids that know nothing about NASCAR...they just know all about Pastrami.

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