BUBBA GETS A REPRIEVE

lostboy819 wrote:

Old news, try to keep up
Any story off of MXA's website has been out for at least a week everyplace else.

Rudeboy119 wrote:

fame and money always buy impunity

flarider wrote:

Here is how I understand it. 1. James never performed a "stop." He only flashed the lights, the car pulled over, they rolled up next to...

Here is how I understand it.

1. James never performed a "stop." He only flashed the lights, the car pulled over, they rolled up next to the car and yelled out the window "slow down." He never exited the car, he never pretended to be a cop (other than the lights), he never pretended to write a ticket, he did not pull behind the car like a police office would. So aside from flashing the light, he made no other action that could be seen as an attempt to impersonate a police officer.

2. He never "fled" the police officers, because they were in a personal vehicle, not a police vehicle, marked or unmarked. They had no lights or radio, which is why the police officers in a personal vehicle had to call 911 to report the incident. So they had no way to stop James, no light or sirens, so he had no reason to stop or indication to stop, therefore, he never "fled" or "evaded" police. He stopped for three toll booths, does someone fleeing police stop and pay tolls? Especially considering those three booths have speed-thru toll systems, where you do not have to stop if you have a "Sunpass" prepaid toll transponder? (why James doesn't have one, I have no idea)

3. Just because Rado had the light in his bag does not prove or mean they were trying to hide it, he could have been taking it with him to California, which is why they were headed to the airport. Can't prove he wasn't.

Now, all that said, was it a dumb thing to do? Yes, you bet 'cha, absolutely. Totally stupid.

Rudeboy119 wrote:

fame and money always buy impunity

flarider wrote:

Here is how I understand it. 1. James never performed a "stop." He only flashed the lights, the car pulled over, they rolled up next to...

Here is how I understand it.

1. James never performed a "stop." He only flashed the lights, the car pulled over, they rolled up next to the car and yelled out the window "slow down." He never exited the car, he never pretended to be a cop (other than the lights), he never pretended to write a ticket, he did not pull behind the car like a police office would. So aside from flashing the light, he made no other action that could be seen as an attempt to impersonate a police officer.

2. He never "fled" the police officers, because they were in a personal vehicle, not a police vehicle, marked or unmarked. They had no lights or radio, which is why the police officers in a personal vehicle had to call 911 to report the incident. So they had no way to stop James, no light or sirens, so he had no reason to stop or indication to stop, therefore, he never "fled" or "evaded" police. He stopped for three toll booths, does someone fleeing police stop and pay tolls? Especially considering those three booths have speed-thru toll systems, where you do not have to stop if you have a "Sunpass" prepaid toll transponder? (why James doesn't have one, I have no idea)

3. Just because Rado had the light in his bag does not prove or mean they were trying to hide it, he could have been taking it with him to California, which is why they were headed to the airport. Can't prove he wasn't.

Now, all that said, was it a dumb thing to do? Yes, you bet 'cha, absolutely. Totally stupid.

flarider wrote:

Here is how I understand it. 1. James never performed a "stop." He only flashed the lights, the car pulled over, they rolled up next to...

Here is how I understand it.

1. James never performed a "stop." He only flashed the lights, the car pulled over, they rolled up next to the car and yelled out the window "slow down." He never exited the car, he never pretended to be a cop (other than the lights), he never pretended to write a ticket, he did not pull behind the car like a police office would. So aside from flashing the light, he made no other action that could be seen as an attempt to impersonate a police officer.

2. He never "fled" the police officers, because they were in a personal vehicle, not a police vehicle, marked or unmarked. They had no lights or radio, which is why the police officers in a personal vehicle had to call 911 to report the incident. So they had no way to stop James, no light or sirens, so he had no reason to stop or indication to stop, therefore, he never "fled" or "evaded" police. He stopped for three toll booths, does someone fleeing police stop and pay tolls? Especially considering those three booths have speed-thru toll systems, where you do not have to stop if you have a "Sunpass" prepaid toll transponder? (why James doesn't have one, I have no idea)

3. Just because Rado had the light in his bag does not prove or mean they were trying to hide it, he could have been taking it with him to California, which is why they were headed to the airport. Can't prove he wasn't.

Now, all that said, was it a dumb thing to do? Yes, you bet 'cha, absolutely. Totally stupid.

flarider wrote:

Here is how I understand it. 1. James never performed a "stop." He only flashed the lights, the car pulled over, they rolled up next to...

Here is how I understand it.

1. James never performed a "stop." He only flashed the lights, the car pulled over, they rolled up next to the car and yelled out the window "slow down." He never exited the car, he never pretended to be a cop (other than the lights), he never pretended to write a ticket, he did not pull behind the car like a police office would. So aside from flashing the light, he made no other action that could be seen as an attempt to impersonate a police officer.

2. He never "fled" the police officers, because they were in a personal vehicle, not a police vehicle, marked or unmarked. They had no lights or radio, which is why the police officers in a personal vehicle had to call 911 to report the incident. So they had no way to stop James, no light or sirens, so he had no reason to stop or indication to stop, therefore, he never "fled" or "evaded" police. He stopped for three toll booths, does someone fleeing police stop and pay tolls? Especially considering those three booths have speed-thru toll systems, where you do not have to stop if you have a "Sunpass" prepaid toll transponder? (why James doesn't have one, I have no idea)

3. Just because Rado had the light in his bag does not prove or mean they were trying to hide it, he could have been taking it with him to California, which is why they were headed to the airport. Can't prove he wasn't.

Now, all that said, was it a dumb thing to do? Yes, you bet 'cha, absolutely. Totally stupid.

JJO741 wrote:

Very good analysis and I agree.

flarider wrote:

Here is how I understand it. 1. James never performed a "stop." He only flashed the lights, the car pulled over, they rolled up next to...

Here is how I understand it.

1. James never performed a "stop." He only flashed the lights, the car pulled over, they rolled up next to the car and yelled out the window "slow down." He never exited the car, he never pretended to be a cop (other than the lights), he never pretended to write a ticket, he did not pull behind the car like a police office would. So aside from flashing the light, he made no other action that could be seen as an attempt to impersonate a police officer.

2. He never "fled" the police officers, because they were in a personal vehicle, not a police vehicle, marked or unmarked. They had no lights or radio, which is why the police officers in a personal vehicle had to call 911 to report the incident. So they had no way to stop James, no light or sirens, so he had no reason to stop or indication to stop, therefore, he never "fled" or "evaded" police. He stopped for three toll booths, does someone fleeing police stop and pay tolls? Especially considering those three booths have speed-thru toll systems, where you do not have to stop if you have a "Sunpass" prepaid toll transponder? (why James doesn't have one, I have no idea)

3. Just because Rado had the light in his bag does not prove or mean they were trying to hide it, he could have been taking it with him to California, which is why they were headed to the airport. Can't prove he wasn't.

Now, all that said, was it a dumb thing to do? Yes, you bet 'cha, absolutely. Totally stupid.

flarider wrote:

Here is how I understand it. 1. James never performed a "stop." He only flashed the lights, the car pulled over, they rolled up next to...

Here is how I understand it.

1. James never performed a "stop." He only flashed the lights, the car pulled over, they rolled up next to the car and yelled out the window "slow down." He never exited the car, he never pretended to be a cop (other than the lights), he never pretended to write a ticket, he did not pull behind the car like a police office would. So aside from flashing the light, he made no other action that could be seen as an attempt to impersonate a police officer.

2. He never "fled" the police officers, because they were in a personal vehicle, not a police vehicle, marked or unmarked. They had no lights or radio, which is why the police officers in a personal vehicle had to call 911 to report the incident. So they had no way to stop James, no light or sirens, so he had no reason to stop or indication to stop, therefore, he never "fled" or "evaded" police. He stopped for three toll booths, does someone fleeing police stop and pay tolls? Especially considering those three booths have speed-thru toll systems, where you do not have to stop if you have a "Sunpass" prepaid toll transponder? (why James doesn't have one, I have no idea)

3. Just because Rado had the light in his bag does not prove or mean they were trying to hide it, he could have been taking it with him to California, which is why they were headed to the airport. Can't prove he wasn't.

Now, all that said, was it a dumb thing to do? Yes, you bet 'cha, absolutely. Totally stupid.

BobbyM wrote:

there you go again....

Rudeboy119 wrote:

fame and money always buy impunity

mjskier wrote:

Some district attorneys get a hard on at the thought of prosecuting somebody famous. (Bonus point if he is black) I think in this case they...

Some district attorneys get a hard on at the thought of prosecuting somebody famous. (Bonus point if he is black)
I think in this case they realized that the police wasn't going to come out looking very good. From the various reports it sounds like these guys were driving like idiots.

flarider wrote:

Here is how I understand it. 1. James never performed a "stop." He only flashed the lights, the car pulled over, they rolled up next to...

Here is how I understand it.

1. James never performed a "stop." He only flashed the lights, the car pulled over, they rolled up next to the car and yelled out the window "slow down." He never exited the car, he never pretended to be a cop (other than the lights), he never pretended to write a ticket, he did not pull behind the car like a police office would. So aside from flashing the light, he made no other action that could be seen as an attempt to impersonate a police officer.

2. He never "fled" the police officers, because they were in a personal vehicle, not a police vehicle, marked or unmarked. They had no lights or radio, which is why the police officers in a personal vehicle had to call 911 to report the incident. So they had no way to stop James, no light or sirens, so he had no reason to stop or indication to stop, therefore, he never "fled" or "evaded" police. He stopped for three toll booths, does someone fleeing police stop and pay tolls? Especially considering those three booths have speed-thru toll systems, where you do not have to stop if you have a "Sunpass" prepaid toll transponder? (why James doesn't have one, I have no idea)

3. Just because Rado had the light in his bag does not prove or mean they were trying to hide it, he could have been taking it with him to California, which is why they were headed to the airport. Can't prove he wasn't.

Now, all that said, was it a dumb thing to do? Yes, you bet 'cha, absolutely. Totally stupid.

BobbyM wrote:

there you go again....

flarider wrote:

Again, what, Bobby? Unlike you, I don't make odd vague references to things and expect everyone to know what I am talking about. I put out...

Again, what, Bobby?

Unlike you, I don't make odd vague references to things and expect everyone to know what I am talking about. I put out there in a clear manner how I understand things.
You just point fingers, call names and rant and rave like a crazy man.

If you have something to say, say it

flarider wrote:

Here is how I understand it. 1. James never performed a "stop." He only flashed the lights, the car pulled over, they rolled up next to...

Here is how I understand it.

1. James never performed a "stop." He only flashed the lights, the car pulled over, they rolled up next to the car and yelled out the window "slow down." He never exited the car, he never pretended to be a cop (other than the lights), he never pretended to write a ticket, he did not pull behind the car like a police office would. So aside from flashing the light, he made no other action that could be seen as an attempt to impersonate a police officer.

2. He never "fled" the police officers, because they were in a personal vehicle, not a police vehicle, marked or unmarked. They had no lights or radio, which is why the police officers in a personal vehicle had to call 911 to report the incident. So they had no way to stop James, no light or sirens, so he had no reason to stop or indication to stop, therefore, he never "fled" or "evaded" police. He stopped for three toll booths, does someone fleeing police stop and pay tolls? Especially considering those three booths have speed-thru toll systems, where you do not have to stop if you have a "Sunpass" prepaid toll transponder? (why James doesn't have one, I have no idea)

3. Just because Rado had the light in his bag does not prove or mean they were trying to hide it, he could have been taking it with him to California, which is why they were headed to the airport. Can't prove he wasn't.

Now, all that said, was it a dumb thing to do? Yes, you bet 'cha, absolutely. Totally stupid.

mxb2 wrote:

How would you know? Or understand unless you were there or a judge.

flarider wrote:

Here is how I understand it. 1. James never performed a "stop." He only flashed the lights, the car pulled over, they rolled up next to...

Here is how I understand it.

1. James never performed a "stop." He only flashed the lights, the car pulled over, they rolled up next to the car and yelled out the window "slow down." He never exited the car, he never pretended to be a cop (other than the lights), he never pretended to write a ticket, he did not pull behind the car like a police office would. So aside from flashing the light, he made no other action that could be seen as an attempt to impersonate a police officer.

2. He never "fled" the police officers, because they were in a personal vehicle, not a police vehicle, marked or unmarked. They had no lights or radio, which is why the police officers in a personal vehicle had to call 911 to report the incident. So they had no way to stop James, no light or sirens, so he had no reason to stop or indication to stop, therefore, he never "fled" or "evaded" police. He stopped for three toll booths, does someone fleeing police stop and pay tolls? Especially considering those three booths have speed-thru toll systems, where you do not have to stop if you have a "Sunpass" prepaid toll transponder? (why James doesn't have one, I have no idea)

3. Just because Rado had the light in his bag does not prove or mean they were trying to hide it, he could have been taking it with him to California, which is why they were headed to the airport. Can't prove he wasn't.

Now, all that said, was it a dumb thing to do? Yes, you bet 'cha, absolutely. Totally stupid.

mxb2 wrote:

How would you know? Or understand unless you were there or a judge.

SuperGenius wrote:

Excellent post.

mxb2 wrote:

Love the race card. thats old.

flarider wrote:

Again, what, Bobby? Unlike you, I don't make odd vague references to things and expect everyone to know what I am talking about. I put out...

Again, what, Bobby?

Unlike you, I don't make odd vague references to things and expect everyone to know what I am talking about. I put out there in a clear manner how I understand things.
You just point fingers, call names and rant and rave like a crazy man.

If you have something to say, say it

mxb2 wrote:

How would you know? Or understand unless you were there or a judge.

SuperGenius wrote:

Excellent post.

agency399 wrote:

Just because his profession is not a judge, does not mean he cannot use some common sense to diagnose the situation does it? Pretty much spot...

Just because his profession is not a judge, does not mean he cannot use some common sense to diagnose the situation does it?

Pretty much spot on as I see it.

flarider wrote:

Again, what, Bobby? Unlike you, I don't make odd vague references to things and expect everyone to know what I am talking about. I put out...

Again, what, Bobby?

Unlike you, I don't make odd vague references to things and expect everyone to know what I am talking about. I put out there in a clear manner how I understand things.
You just point fingers, call names and rant and rave like a crazy man.

If you have something to say, say it

BobbyM wrote:

sorry dave, it just SEEMS like you run to the defense of james at every opportunity. i am sure it is my crazy mind and imagination...

sorry dave, it just SEEMS like you run to the defense of james at every opportunity. i am sure it is my crazy mind and imagination and not one other person even remotely entertains the thought i SEEM to have.

and that is fine...but WHY is my question