Digital TV question?

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My son just bought a new 19" flat screen tv. How come I can only get local channels? I was always under the impression that you didn't need a converter box for new digital tv''s. Is something not set right on the tv, or something?
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10/13/2009 6:43pm Edited Date/Time 10/13/2009 6:44pm
What do you mean by "local channels"? Digital TV is for over the air TV only (antenna) as far as I know.
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I get all my local channels local news local tv programs , network tv and a few cable channels. Out in my living room I get about 60 channels in mine and my sons bedrooms before the change over we got the same channels now we get about 10 channels. His tv is brand new and I was under the impression he wouldn't need a converter box!
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10/13/2009 7:09pm
Check under set up and make sure it's set on cable.
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10/13/2009 7:19pm Edited Date/Time 10/13/2009 7:20pm
With digital TV you shouldn't need a digital converter box for the over the air channels but it sounds like that's not the type of converter box you are talking about. I don't think it would replace your satellite receiver or Cable TV box. If you are just talking about basic cable channels then what JPT mentioned should cover it. You don't even need a digital TV for that. Digitial TV just means it has a digital receiver built in for the new digital format broadcast TV.

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BUTCH wrote:
My son just bought a new 19" flat screen tv. How come I can only get local channels? I was always under the impression that you...
My son just bought a new 19" flat screen tv. How come I can only get local channels? I was always under the impression that you didn't need a converter box for new digital tv''s. Is something not set right on the tv, or something?
Holy Schnitzengruben!!!


HD is too complicated for you???? Grinning Silly


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ok

comcast in your area (silverdale?)

only has NTSC (regular old 320x240 low res old school tv) for up to ch 29
ATSC (new fangled HD, up to 1080i) for local channels is avail for 4, 5, 6, 7, 9, 11, 13, 16, 22, maybe a few more, but only local affiliates....

the "good" channels are encoded by comcast and you will need a converter box. they come in many flavors. see your local comcast dealer, etc.

comcast will rule the world someday !



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if you attempt over the air broadcast (antenna) check out this website
http://www.antennaweb.org/aw/welcome.aspx

range with the digital sig are reduced and very finicky. it becomes either a perfect pic or zero pic, borderline is a jumpy perfect picture.
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The set up wizard didn't activate, so I had to reset everything and now it popped up and did it's thing, I have all the channels now, but it's got weird numbers that don't match my other tvs and they have dashes in them! Like RF34-1 ,34-1, that's just one channel ! I'm ignorant when it come to this new stuff. Unsure Dizzy Laughing
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When I watch on my Samsung straight from the cable (not through the HD-DVR) get channel 3 (regular) and 3.1 (HD). Have that on about 6 channels. I have to go through the DVR to get the other HD channels.

It is a strange set-up.
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Yeah, man it's wild there are more channels on this tv hooked straight to the cable than the tv in my living room that's hooked to my Comcast box . Lot's of HD , the channels don't match what on the scroll guide but the shows and times do! Thanks John and Void for trying to help, appreciate it.Cool
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10/14/2009 5:44am Edited Date/Time 10/14/2009 6:05am
I was just trying to explain that when you buy a "digital" TV it is referring to the new over air "DTV" standard and that means you don't need a DTV converter to receive over the air TV. That really has nothing to do with HDTV (High Definition TV which is a format standard). The over-the-air broadcast transmission standard just changed from analog to DTV.

The old format standard in the US was NTSC and now HDTV is becoming the format standard. HDTV has a different aspect ratio, more pixels, and a higher frame rate which makes it a higher definition picture.

So if your TV is advertised as a "Digital" TV it is referring to DTV and doesn't need a DTV converter. Without DTV (converter, or built-in) you will not be able to watch local TV with an antenna like you could in the old days. If is advertised as an "HDTV" it is capable of the new higher definition format that the content is encoded with (broadcasts over air, cable, satellite, Blue Ray, etc). Most new TVs are probably capable of both.

The bottom line is that being a "Digital" TV has no bearing in whether you need a tuner box from your cable or satellite provider. It only means you don't need a digital converter for local TV you pull off your antenna (if you have one).

Comparing DTV with HDTV is like comparing a type of road with a type of automobile, they really can't be compared. You could compare the carrier signal, the analog signal being a "dirt road" to DTV being a "paved highway" or cable being an "multilane Interstate highway" and you could also compare the format standard, NTSC being a Chevette, HDTV being a Corvette. Both of the Chevette and Corvette (format standards) can use the same roads (broadcast standards).

It turns out you were really interested in whether or not the TV was "cable ready" and had a tuner capable of tuning in basic cable channels.
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10/14/2009 9:19am
Thanks for the lesson Void, like I said, I'm really ignorant about this stuff. So much so, that I don't even know how to ask the right question to get the help I need. Got it working now! Thanks for hang'n in there with the dumb guy!Wink
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10/14/2009 12:22pm
Is it the HD signal that causes live TV (not an HD set) to look like crap? Long shots of races are barely recognizable sometimes. I'm not quite ready to ditch my working equipment just yet, but damn.

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