Shout out to TBlazier, and a Q?!

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Edited Date/Time 11/9/2012 7:17am
So... was watching this race... Orlando 05...

The track looks awesome to me... Big bermed 180 corners, long whoops, long straight for some good drag racing and braking duals...

Question is... What do you think a 450 does on this track now... KW/Tortelli/Ramsay were on one, one of the best tracks to watch IMO... the tracks the last few years have been horrible... Dirty Wurx and Feld need to spend a few bob on some more dirt me thinks...

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11/8/2012 8:12pm Edited Date/Time 11/8/2012 8:12pm
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Guess the tracks are fine haha...
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11/8/2012 9:00pm
Crush wrote:
So... was watching this race... Orlando 05... The track looks awesome to me... Big bermed 180 corners, long whoops, long straight for some good drag racing...
So... was watching this race... Orlando 05...

The track looks awesome to me... Big bermed 180 corners, long whoops, long straight for some good drag racing and braking duals...

Question is... What do you think a 450 does on this track now... KW/Tortelli/Ramsay were on one, one of the best tracks to watch IMO... the tracks the last few years have been horrible... Dirty Wurx and Feld need to spend a few bob on some more dirt me thinks...

Personally I love this track too. It was technical and exciting to watch. I agree 1000% on the need to take a hard look at the treck designs. If you go back and watch any of my vids from around 99-02 those tracks were way more gnarly than what they are building now. I'm not sure how much the 450's would change the outcome on these races. It is true that they make clearing things less difficult and the 2-strokes certainly led to more mistakes, but the best guys would still win regardless.

We need to return to bigger whoops and they need to be right out of turns so the speeds stay down and it requires more skill to negotiate them. I also like things like steep walls like we saw in ATL this year that the guys have to slow down for and don't allow them to just leap whole straight-aways in 2 jumps. The 450's are so damn powerful the only way to slow the track down is to get creative with the obstacles. IMO if a guy can go out with NO practice and nail every obstacle on the track at a race pace within one lap the track is too much of a cookie cutter. Tracks like the Anaheim throw back in 08 and A1 this year generate a lot of belly aching from everyone, but they are different and actually require the guys and teams to adapt. Change is good, and I would love to see Feld mix things up with a Joker lane or more interesting designs. It probably won't happen, but IMO it would be good for the sport.
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11/8/2012 9:04pm
I kinda liked the track design from Genoa last weekend. They kept it slow, had multiple lines in the corners, and seemed like there were alot of different rhythms
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11/8/2012 9:33pm
tblazier wrote:
Personally I love this track too. It was technical and exciting to watch. I agree 1000% on the need to take a hard look at the...
Personally I love this track too. It was technical and exciting to watch. I agree 1000% on the need to take a hard look at the treck designs. If you go back and watch any of my vids from around 99-02 those tracks were way more gnarly than what they are building now. I'm not sure how much the 450's would change the outcome on these races. It is true that they make clearing things less difficult and the 2-strokes certainly led to more mistakes, but the best guys would still win regardless.

We need to return to bigger whoops and they need to be right out of turns so the speeds stay down and it requires more skill to negotiate them. I also like things like steep walls like we saw in ATL this year that the guys have to slow down for and don't allow them to just leap whole straight-aways in 2 jumps. The 450's are so damn powerful the only way to slow the track down is to get creative with the obstacles. IMO if a guy can go out with NO practice and nail every obstacle on the track at a race pace within one lap the track is too much of a cookie cutter. Tracks like the Anaheim throw back in 08 and A1 this year generate a lot of belly aching from everyone, but they are different and actually require the guys and teams to adapt. Change is good, and I would love to see Feld mix things up with a Joker lane or more interesting designs. It probably won't happen, but IMO it would be good for the sport.
Yeah I think the flow thing is an issue... I'm not a fan of the walls, but the obstacles like 02 Anaheim, that corner hip jump, where the riders have to sky it or roll over are good...

The 450s can jump stuff but at the same time they build the tracks with long run ups to jumps and short runs into corners from landings... So the riders jump everything and there is no outbraking manouvers going on anywhere...

That orlando track was great... you had options, breaking points, and obstacles fairly well ready out of the turn for the bikes of the time... The bikes have changed so much for the better/faster but the tracks are terrible at the moment.

AND the injury thing is ridiculous... as is the close racing comment. There are enough good guys around now that the sport will have good racing. And people have gotten injured all the time, it happens because it's on motorcycles not because of track design... (RV st louis excepted! Even then, that was track maintenance/build/not enough dirt)

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11/9/2012 7:17am
First off that track was awesome. Secondly, stewart and RC made those bowl turns there B$$$$$ the way they railed through them. Why cant we have tracks like this anymore.

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