If moto is 80 %mental

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Why don't racers hire mental coaches instead of hard-core ex bike racer peeps?
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FastEddy 7/23/2014 3:21pm
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Pretty sure guys like Baker can help with confidence & motivation mentally(which are mental IMO and the most important).

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KMC440 7/23/2014 3:29pm
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Most of tthe "mental coaches" would go hari kari dealing with todays home schooled moto gods.
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Spartacus 7/23/2014 3:39pm
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'cause in 'Merica we don't believe in that mental crap. If we can't see it, touch it and pass it throughout our bowels it doesn't exist in our world. Now a broken femur is real, anything "wrong" with your head is all in your mind and you just need to cowboy up.

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GIwasB4 7/23/2014 3:41pm
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Hey Bobby myersdork. "Imagine" (that's mental) if you had hired a mental coach in your day. You'd be the GOAT.

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The Rock 7/23/2014 4:26pm
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Shoot. Thanks for clearing that up. All these years I had it as "80% of the people in Moto are mental." Laughing

EDIT: bobbym-Excellent question. Back in the HoT days one of the riders had a mental coach AKA sports psychologist. Flashback to spring of 74 and we were over at Richmond Indiana where Ike Ridgeway (grandfather of the late Jay Ridgeway flatracker) held races at the this track with monster uphills and downhills. Some of the early races Ike taking his cap off was the start. No gate just front wheels in a ditch but I digress.

This one Sunday these three pros on Maicos show up for the first time and just waxed everyone. After practice I walked over to the one guy (I was 17) and don't remember exactly what I asked him about going fast but I have never forgotten his answer:

"The secret to going fast is just having your shit together."

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Racer92 7/23/2014 4:46pm
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Racing is 80% mental, 50% fitness, 40% practice and 25% luck !



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Outsider 7/23/2014 4:51pm
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The OP doesn't have a leg to stand on in this argument... both literally, and figuratively! Tongue
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You either got it or you don't. Can't teach it

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The Rock 7/23/2014 5:36pm
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If you've got it thought it can be honed IMO. Look at how RC turned out after having been mentored by Johnny O'Mara.
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The Rock wrote:
If you've got it thought it can be honed IMO. Look at how RC turned out after having been mentored by Johnny O'Mara.
Agreed, but it has to be there to begin with
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The Rock 7/23/2014 6:51pm
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GIwasB4 wrote:
Hey Bobby myersdork. "Imagine" (that's mental) if you had hired a mental coach in your day. You'd be the GOAT.
How many SX mains have you started?
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BobbyM wrote:
Why don't racers hire mental coaches instead of hard-core ex bike racer peeps?
BM.... I feel the very good coaches coach the mental aspect of competing (emotional intelligence is actually the easiest to improve making a conscious effort).
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Sully22 7/23/2014 7:23pm
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I said this in a thread yesterday. All the top guys have trainers and they are in elite physical shape, but finding a trainer that can prepare them mentally is what most of these guys need.
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motosmith 7/23/2014 7:29pm
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You have to born with talent, then 90% is fitness and the remaining 10% is mental.
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motosmith wrote:
You have to born with talent, then 90% is fitness and the remaining 10% is mental.
I disagree... mental is more than 10%. I would argue Talent (Moto Intelligence); Mental (Emotional Quotient); and Fitness (Body Quotient) are all separate variables. The RV's of the world operate extremely high in all variables.

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Racer92 wrote:
Racing is 80% mental, 50% fitness, 40% practice and 25% luck ! [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2014/07/23/60739/s1200_jethro.jpg[/img]
Racing is 80% mental, 50% fitness, 40% practice and 25% luck !



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Sandberm 7/23/2014 8:01pm
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The Rock wrote:
If you've got it thought it can be honed IMO. Look at how RC turned out after having been mentored by Johnny O'Mara.
Does Thomas Covington know this?
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racin mason 7/23/2014 8:01pm
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You cant just put a percentage on talent ,fitness, and the mental aspects of moto.It varies quite a bit from rider to rider.RC has never been talked about as being one of the most talented ,however he was one of the most physicaly fit and mentaly prepared riders ever.Ron Lechien relied on talent,and very little on conditioning.James is probably one of the most talented ever, the mental side of the game is not his strong suit.
Getting some help with the mental aspect of the game surely couldnt hurt
Sheriff245 7/23/2014 8:17pm
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Spartacus wrote:
'cause in 'Merica we don't believe in that mental crap. If we can't see it, touch it and pass it throughout our bowels it doesn't exist...
'cause in 'Merica we don't believe in that mental crap. If we can't see it, touch it and pass it throughout our bowels it doesn't exist in our world. Now a broken femur is real, anything "wrong" with your head is all in your mind and you just need to cowboy up.

Except for Jesus, of course.
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I am teaching high school in a district with a lot of well off families. They can be just as bad as home schooled kids, trust me
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enketchum wrote:
I am teaching high school in a district with a lot of well off families. They can be just as bad as home schooled kids, trust...
I am teaching high school in a district with a lot of well off families. They can be just as bad as home schooled kids, trust me
If not worse*
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BobbyM 7/23/2014 10:16pm
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GIwasB4 wrote:
Hey Bobby myersdork. "Imagine" (that's mental) if you had hired a mental coach in your day. You'd be the GOAT.
I had to settle for OFM...
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The mental part is where the whole team comes in. Each member of the team should be a relief for something so the rider doesn't have to be consumed thinking about it. The physical is easy if you have the right information. Facts over feelings. Its 10 experts in different areas on a team, the rider should just have to worry about doing what needs to be done on the bike and that's a simple can or can't thing. "Go 3-4-3 thru that section" you can or you can't... period.
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The Rock 7/24/2014 12:17am
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The Rock wrote:
If you've got it thought it can be honed IMO. Look at how RC turned out after having been mentored by Johnny O'Mara.
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Does Thomas Covington know this?
Two things:

1) It is Thomas Covington's first year.

2) I had been hearing about RC for years before he turned pro. I have never heard of Thomas Covington until this year but if O Show says he has the goods I will stay tuned. I also think Covington will return to the states a much better rider after having race a couple of seasons in MX2. Zach Osbourne says the tracks definitely improved his game.
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Spartacus 7/24/2014 3:58am
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motosmith wrote:
You have to born with talent, then 90% is fitness and the remaining 10% is mental.
Common perception but 100% wrong.
guywithacamera 12/1/2017 11:08am
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Sully22 wrote:
I said this in a thread yesterday. All the top guys have trainers and they are in elite physical shape, but finding a trainer that can...
I said this in a thread yesterday. All the top guys have trainers and they are in elite physical shape, but finding a trainer that can prepare them mentally is what most of these guys need.
I agree. That's why I started Focus Mind management, to train racers to get better results from racing. If you like the results you've been getting, keep doing what you have been doing. If you want better results, then you need to make a change and the only thing you can change to get better results is your mental ability to control what you weren't able to control before. MX is 90% mental and 10% physical.

Here's an example, can you like and dislike anything you want? You'd think , yeah I can hate that if I want. So then tell me.. Try this example, try to hate ice cream. You can't, because your mind is already made up that you love ice cream. I'm not saying that I can train you to hate Ice cream, no reason for that. What I am saying is that I can train you to be in control of what you want to like and not like. Having that ability is the first step to a better life and every thing you want to do. It's your choice, you can control your life or you can have your subconscious control it for you. Time to change that so you're in control of you, not your subconscious.

Contact me if you want to remove the mental blocks in your subconscious that ARE holding you back.

https://www.facebook.com/focusmindmanagement/

woody woodpecker 12/1/2017 2:02pm
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I don't understand the question, who would be better suited to mentally prepare a racer for the demands of the sport than an ex-racer?
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kkawboy14 12/1/2017 2:13pm
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BobbyM wrote:
Why don't racers hire mental coaches instead of hard-core ex bike racer peeps?
Because they are mental!

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