The Hurricane calls out "The Hype"

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2/4/2011 1:39pm
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I'm glad that most of us don't dream about being a backwards-thinking, bigot with no respect for others. The world is a better place with fewer...
I'm glad that most of us don't dream about being a backwards-thinking, bigot with no respect for others. The world is a better place with fewer attitudes like his.

And VAZSCEP, what part about this ("I'd call him out straight to his face") did you not understand? I'm no e-thug, just an honest person that knows right from wrong and not afraid to stand up for what I believe. I'm sure he's a nice guy to his friends, but part of living in a society is trying to get along and his words reek of intolerance. Unacceptable IMO.
The fact that you said "I'd call him out straight to his face" from your computer was what gave me the E-Thug impression, big ballr.

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2/4/2011 1:43pm
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Look, when you've been annointed "hero status", as this guy has, you have an obligation to behave in public because people look up to you. Behind...
Look, when you've been annointed "hero status", as this guy has, you have an obligation to behave in public because people look up to you. Behind closed doors with your buddies it's a different story. It's called being a role model, like we are to our sons. Would you want someone saying those things about your kids in public. Imagine if he said those things about you. Wouldn't you be hurt? I know I would.

And yes, I am incredibly intolerant of hate speak and bigots.
So, it's not okay for Hannah to "reek of intolerance" while you admit to the same thing posting behind a screen name of "ballr". Would you want your kids looking up to a "baller".

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2/4/2011 1:49pm Edited Date/Time 2/4/2011 1:51pm
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[i] didn't say he didn't pay his dues, I said he did not have the same unique persective that gives him the same rights to speak...
didn't say he didn't pay his dues, I said he did not have the same unique persective that gives him the same rights to speak his mind about the industry as Hannah does.

So what you are saying is that it's OK for Hannah to call people douche bags and dick smokers, but if someone else were to talk about others like that, it would be over the line?
I'm saying that Hannah is speaking from a somehwhat unique point of view that few can speak from and has earned the right to speak his mind. Hannah did what it took to win and didn't waste anyone's time doing it. If he rode bad, he would be the first to say it. When Hannah calls Mike Alessi a douche-bag, he means it. If he saw a 100% effort from Mike, he would not be calling him a douche-bag. However, the context of the comments were that Mike's dad was sending Bob Hannah emails basically calling Mike a douche-bag (Hannah did not remember the exact term so he used his own term: douche-bag) and Hannah didn't care about the emails and did not want Tony's emails. Also, the crack at Pederson was aimed at Canadian boy wonder, Matthes, not Pederson. I think Hannah was basically saying, well let's see what I can say to get under his skin....he's a Canadian, I know! I will tell him that Pederson who is a Canadian is a dick smoker, what a great way to start the show. Seemed totally tongue-in-cheek to me, but then again I have an actual sense of humor.
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2/4/2011 1:49pm
LOL, I played football in college and still love the game. Good try though. Done with you two.
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No one "earns" the right to be an asshole.

It's amazing to me what people will put up with from famous, or in this case "famous in our small world of MX" people.
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No one "earns" the right to be an asshole. It's amazing to me what people will put up with from famous, or in this case "famous...
No one "earns" the right to be an asshole.

It's amazing to me what people will put up with from famous, or in this case "famous in our small world of MX" people.
I concurr. My Sis in law works for Fox ( the Film / TV company ) and some of the shit "famous" people pull would make your mind bend.


No that I have an opinion on Hannah one way or the other.
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2/4/2011 2:37pm
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Ol' Bob's hooking some fish it seems. Hasn't raced in nearly 25 years and he's still lighting up the message boards! Look's like Guy B might...
Ol' Bob's hooking some fish it seems. Hasn't raced in nearly 25 years and he's still lighting up the message boards! Look's like Guy B might have to go in and edit those interviews so they have a warmer more fuzzy politically correct feel to them.Smile
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I don't know you Newman, but if Bob Hannah called you a dick smoker face to face, how would you take that? Would you laugh because...
I don't know you Newman, but if Bob Hannah called you a dick smoker face to face, how would you take that?

Would you laugh because it's "Bob Hannah"?

Have you ever been around Hannah? He can get on your nerves really quickly, and I honestly have no idea why someone hasn't beat the living shit out of him.
Because he talks shit to the people who will tolerate it, Gotta be careful he might say the wrong thing to the wrong person, one that does nt know or care who he is! And hannah is a badass on a mx bike no doubt, who knows about his fighting skills LOL!
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2/4/2011 2:49pm Edited Date/Time 2/4/2011 2:50pm
mxb2 wrote:
Because he talks shit to the people who will tolerate it, Gotta be careful he might say the wrong thing to the wrong person, one that...
Because he talks shit to the people who will tolerate it, Gotta be careful he might say the wrong thing to the wrong person, one that does nt know or care who he is! And hannah is a badass on a mx bike no doubt, who knows about his fighting skills LOL!
Are you saying that he`s a chickenshit who got lucky all his life to not pick on a wrong guy? Jeez!!!
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mxb2 wrote:
Because he talks shit to the people who will tolerate it, Gotta be careful he might say the wrong thing to the wrong person, one that...
Because he talks shit to the people who will tolerate it, Gotta be careful he might say the wrong thing to the wrong person, one that does nt know or care who he is! And hannah is a badass on a mx bike no doubt, who knows about his fighting skills LOL!
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Are you saying that he`s a chickenshit who got lucky all his life to not pick on a wrong guy? Jeez!!!
Never said he was lucky, don t know the guy, but my point being is these days you got to watch who you run your mouth too! Baltimore/.DC area you might get yourself into some problems !
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2/4/2011 3:01pm Edited Date/Time 2/4/2011 3:03pm
Looks like Mike needs a break from MX and a gut check. Jeff looked good before the injury and the Grant punt (paybacks a bitch Josh). Now the question is Hannah calling it as an old schooler sees it, or is he lighting a fire under Mike's modern day MX ass? Either way, "it is what it is"......
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for shits and giggles how many of you guys actually saw hannah race? how many have actually raced hannah. letr's see the show of hands?
VOODOO27 wrote:
Hand! 1978, I was 13 years old at the old Hangtown track in Plymouth the first time I saw Hannah race, with the most memorable experience...
Hand!

1978, I was 13 years old at the old Hangtown track in Plymouth the first time I saw Hannah race, with the most memorable experience watching him completely destroy the competition at Hangtown the following year at the new Prairie City track, lapping up to 3rd place or close to that, both motos. Jaw dropping display of on the edge racing. And whatever Sears Point Trans AMA, and Supercross races in Northern CA he did, probably up through '82, before playing the bass became my passion.

Hanging out as a kid at the Golden State Nationals watching Brad Lackey pit out of a Honda 'rig' and railing on his 500 that weekend, was a cool experience. Too many good NorCal motocrosses to bring up here, but I never had that rockstar vibe from any of those guys, to burst my motocross hero bubble of them.
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if you saw races at plymouth then you've seen more legends than just bob hannah. ;) i raced hannah and talked to him a few times...
if you saw races at plymouth then you've seen more legends than just bob hannah. Wink

i raced hannah and talked to him a few times back then. he was always very cool to us "privateers" and literally despised other factory racers. saw him jump his bike over a few willing bystanders with no ramp. i was even ready to bet hannah some money my boy kiki, matthews dad could whip his ass on a bmxer...no takers though. Smile

small story but at the seattle sx in 79 during practice i saw hannah come up short ona jump...it wasn't a triple or double but hannah was trying to make it that. he basically jumped off in mid air, landed on his feet with the scooter next to him, absorbed the shock with his legs and feet, "hi-ho'd silvered back onto the scooter then roosted the living shit out of who-ever was behind him and "galloped" away....on the gas the entire way. never saw anything like it before or since.
That whole class of racers from that era were legends to me. Especially the NorCal racers. But, Tony D, Magoo (on a Maico, even) Steve Wise and Barnett were my guys back then, with Garrit Wolsink my fav Euro for some odd reason. I don't think the racers have the same mystic (sp?) as they did back then, 'cause we're feed so much info about them from the media, and their own outlets, that there's almost nothing left to the imagination.

Can anyone help me out with figuring what year like Lackey jersey is from? Early privateer days? I've had zero luck trying to find a year where he wore #9 while racing a Husky. It was given to me last year by a childhood friend of Brad's who found out I was a motocross fan. It's free to a good home if someone's interested in framing it, but not if you want to try and sell it.

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BobbyM wrote:
for shits and giggles how many of you guys actually saw hannah race? how many have actually raced hannah. letr's see the show of hands?
Yes to the first question, no to the second......wished I could have! I would have at least seen him once (or twice).
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That whole class of racers from that era were legends to me. Especially the NorCal racers. But, Tony D, Magoo (on a Maico, even) Steve Wise...
That whole class of racers from that era were legends to me. Especially the NorCal racers. But, Tony D, Magoo (on a Maico, even) Steve Wise and Barnett were my guys back then, with Garrit Wolsink my fav Euro for some odd reason. I don't think the racers have the same mystic (sp?) as they did back then, 'cause we're feed so much info about them from the media, and their own outlets, that there's almost nothing left to the imagination.

Can anyone help me out with figuring what year like Lackey jersey is from? Early privateer days? I've had zero luck trying to find a year where he wore #9 while racing a Husky. It was given to me last year by a childhood friend of Brad's who found out I was a motocross fan. It's free to a good home if someone's interested in framing it, but not if you want to try and sell it.

I'd take that for my moto/mancave/museum. Even make you a donation to Jimmy Button's Miles for Miracles ride if you like.
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BobbyM wrote:
for shits and giggles how many of you guys actually saw hannah race? how many have actually raced hannah. letr's see the show of hands?
Wadded_Up wrote:
Yes to the first question, no to the second......wished I could have! I would have at least seen him once (or twice).
Saw Hannah race several times. SX, MX and Trans-AMA. I think he'd make a good trainer...
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2/4/2011 3:46pm
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No one "earns" the right to be an asshole. It's amazing to me what people will put up with from famous, or in this case "famous...
No one "earns" the right to be an asshole.

It's amazing to me what people will put up with from famous, or in this case "famous in our small world of MX" people.
the thing is if you want motocross to take the next step in popularity you have to have guys like hannah. personality is the key. personailty can create a "feud" on the track and it s that kind of stuff that creates a following. dont forget that the first live nascar race at the end bobby allison and cale yarborough got in a fight.
2/4/2011 4:01pm Edited Date/Time 2/4/2011 4:03pm
That was pretty low, for the record I've never seen Alessi hold his hand up and chicken out on a Supercross jump like Hannah did. Hannah was a total wus that day. Why did it matter what color the girl was?
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2/4/2011 4:11pm Edited Date/Time 2/4/2011 5:10pm
I met Hannah once. I don't know if I would call him a dick though. In all honesty it was a very brief encounter. I meet him at the Indy dealer show. He seemed cocky and arrogant as a quick first impression. Maybe if I knew him better I would have a different opinion. But then again, a lot of people don't care for me at first either. I am an acquired taste. I know Jmar as well. Jmar does not pull punches or mince words either. I think sparks might fly between Jmar and the Hurricane.

I like that we have the Hannahs out there, guys who liven it up and make the sport more colorful. I have not listened to the podcast yet, but if Bob called Alessi a douche, that is not called for. Sure, he can state his opinion, and state it strongly, but calling the kid a douche is not cool, especially if it was really a jab at Tony A. We should not blame Mike for Tony's sins.

Also, I don't agree with the statement that Bob has earned the right to state his opinion and has a "unique" perspective. As far as I know he has no more of a unique perspective than any other past champion. Now he does have the right to state his opinion, but no more than any other racer, ex-racer, industry insider or even a fan as far as that goes.

I am going to go listen to the podcast now. I will report back if my opinion changes.


EDIT: OK, it was not that bad. Seemed like Hannah was just having fun. I think the Rollerball pole smoker line was an inside joke myself. I could do without the political commentary, the US is divided enough without mixing motocross and politics. I think Hannah and Ted Nugent would be good friends.
2/4/2011 4:13pm
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I saw Howerton smoke Hannah when KH won the 250cc title. After Hannah lost the title I think he got hurt riding in the desert...
I saw Howerton smoke Hannah when KH won the 250cc title. After Hannah lost the title I think he got hurt riding in the desert , broken hip. And he didnt ride so well after that. No one remembers that do they? So are we supposed to bag on Hannah like he bags on Alessi , when Hannah was not riding good after his injury? Alessi is a good rider he's just down right now , some like to kick people when there down.
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You know, its no secrete that Mike is having some problems right now and not riding worth a shit. I have no issues with someone like...
You know, its no secrete that Mike is having some problems right now and not riding worth a shit. I have no issues with someone like Hannah talking about that at all, but referring to Mike as Tony's douche bag kid? That's just not right, and calling Pederson a dick smoker?

That's just not the way someone of Hannah's legendary status should be talking.
Like or hate Tony, I can assure you that if Tony and Bob come face to face, it's going to get nasty.
Excellent post.
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the thing is if you want motocross to take the next step in popularity you have to have guys like hannah. personality is the key. personailty...
the thing is if you want motocross to take the next step in popularity you have to have guys like hannah. personality is the key. personailty can create a "feud" on the track and it s that kind of stuff that creates a following. dont forget that the first live nascar race at the end bobby allison and cale yarborough got in a fight.
Always running our mouth like your king shit on crap island is different than what you are describing. I agree with you on the "feud" thing though.


Examples of that would be the J-Law and Dungey feud or the earlier feuds with RV and Alessi.
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the thing is if you want motocross to take the next step in popularity you have to have guys like hannah. personality is the key. personailty...
the thing is if you want motocross to take the next step in popularity you have to have guys like hannah. personality is the key. personailty can create a "feud" on the track and it s that kind of stuff that creates a following. dont forget that the first live nascar race at the end bobby allison and cale yarborough got in a fight.
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Always running our mouth like your king shit on crap island is different than what you are describing. I agree with you on the "feud" thing...
Always running our mouth like your king shit on crap island is different than what you are describing. I agree with you on the "feud" thing though.


Examples of that would be the J-Law and Dungey feud or the earlier feuds with RV and Alessi.
doesnt it seem like the ama or whoever you want to say is calling the shots, tries to stop anything like this happening though creating cookie vutter races with nothing to follow?
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I hope everyone just relaxes a little.

Hannah and Ross are FRIENDS and have a lot of history together. Bob was just having some inside fun with Izer and Kelly leading up to his interview with Steve the next day that David Izer had been lining up for a year.
Ross would be laughing too. And anyway, who doesn't have some homo-erotic humor in their repertoire once in a while? (while being completely hetero)....C'mon...let's be honest with ourselves......(insert crickets sound)

Doesn't mean we're bigots, racists or "insensitive".

BH speaks his mind and doesn't care what others think, that's for sure. "Bigot" hardly. The guy is the salt of the earth (while being a little too salty sometimes).

If everyone (and I mean everyone) on this board were part of the moral majority then a lot of folks should take a real hard look at their posts, avatars, etc...and perhaps call out my buddy GuyB for the "smut he's peddling" (don't though)...Did I see where you had to be 18 to be on here even lurking? I don't think so but even that wouldn't stop eager young moto minds from seein' what all "the men" are doing on Vital. Take a gut check y'all.

Now how about those two footballer teams playing this weekend...Who is it Tampa and Dallas I think?

LOL!

Let's go racin'!
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2/4/2011 5:13pm
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I hope everyone just relaxes a little. Hannah and Ross are FRIENDS and have a lot of history together. Bob was just having some inside fun...
I hope everyone just relaxes a little.

Hannah and Ross are FRIENDS and have a lot of history together. Bob was just having some inside fun with Izer and Kelly leading up to his interview with Steve the next day that David Izer had been lining up for a year.
Ross would be laughing too. And anyway, who doesn't have some homo-erotic humor in their repertoire once in a while? (while being completely hetero)....C'mon...let's be honest with ourselves......(insert crickets sound)

Doesn't mean we're bigots, racists or "insensitive".

BH speaks his mind and doesn't care what others think, that's for sure. "Bigot" hardly. The guy is the salt of the earth (while being a little too salty sometimes).

If everyone (and I mean everyone) on this board were part of the moral majority then a lot of folks should take a real hard look at their posts, avatars, etc...and perhaps call out my buddy GuyB for the "smut he's peddling" (don't though)...Did I see where you had to be 18 to be on here even lurking? I don't think so but even that wouldn't stop eager young moto minds from seein' what all "the men" are doing on Vital. Take a gut check y'all.

Now how about those two footballer teams playing this weekend...Who is it Tampa and Dallas I think?

LOL!

Let's go racin'!
This is exactly right.

Bob was the king of jerking people's chains and he's STILL doing it very well to this day, as evidenced by all the reactions here!
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I'd take that for my moto/mancave/museum. Even make you a donation to Jimmy Button's Miles for Miracles ride if you like.
Put me down for second shot if you don't want it. Tongue
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2/4/2011 5:42pm Edited Date/Time 2/4/2011 5:44pm
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That whole class of racers from that era were legends to me. Especially the NorCal racers. But, Tony D, Magoo (on a Maico, even) Steve Wise...
That whole class of racers from that era were legends to me. Especially the NorCal racers. But, Tony D, Magoo (on a Maico, even) Steve Wise and Barnett were my guys back then, with Garrit Wolsink my fav Euro for some odd reason. I don't think the racers have the same mystic (sp?) as they did back then, 'cause we're feed so much info about them from the media, and their own outlets, that there's almost nothing left to the imagination.

Can anyone help me out with figuring what year like Lackey jersey is from? Early privateer days? I've had zero luck trying to find a year where he wore #9 while racing a Husky. It was given to me last year by a childhood friend of Brad's who found out I was a motocross fan. It's free to a good home if someone's interested in framing it, but not if you want to try and sell it.

Would be good to see if Brad himself cared to have it, under these extremely generous circumstances. Might be something really special to him.
*"Finally recovered that championship Suzuki, now if only I could get back one of my early #9 Husky Jerseys"*

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2/4/2011 5:51pm
Hannah had me rolling.....I just happen to like Alessi even when he's struggling. He's not known for SX and the 450 is a better machine for Alessi in the outdoor series.
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I hope everyone just relaxes a little. Hannah and Ross are FRIENDS and have a lot of history together. Bob was just having some inside fun...
I hope everyone just relaxes a little.

Hannah and Ross are FRIENDS and have a lot of history together. Bob was just having some inside fun with Izer and Kelly leading up to his interview with Steve the next day that David Izer had been lining up for a year.
Ross would be laughing too. And anyway, who doesn't have some homo-erotic humor in their repertoire once in a while? (while being completely hetero)....C'mon...let's be honest with ourselves......(insert crickets sound)

Doesn't mean we're bigots, racists or "insensitive".

BH speaks his mind and doesn't care what others think, that's for sure. "Bigot" hardly. The guy is the salt of the earth (while being a little too salty sometimes).

If everyone (and I mean everyone) on this board were part of the moral majority then a lot of folks should take a real hard look at their posts, avatars, etc...and perhaps call out my buddy GuyB for the "smut he's peddling" (don't though)...Did I see where you had to be 18 to be on here even lurking? I don't think so but even that wouldn't stop eager young moto minds from seein' what all "the men" are doing on Vital. Take a gut check y'all.

Now how about those two footballer teams playing this weekend...Who is it Tampa and Dallas I think?

LOL!

Let's go racin'!
mx files, how come u didnt post before the second comment.Cool
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That was pretty low, for the record I've never seen Alessi hold his hand up and chicken out on a Supercross jump like Hannah did. Hannah...
That was pretty low, for the record I've never seen Alessi hold his hand up and chicken out on a Supercross jump like Hannah did. Hannah was a total wus that day. Why did it matter what color the girl was?
Bobs last SX race was a sad day........sorry but true............He should have pulled the pin sooner...............However he did say he was "done" in the interview with Larry Myers..........The fire in his eyes were gone and so was a legend......
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Bob is Bob.... LOL
Seen him race many times, also have met him many,many times.
He likes to talk shit/be a smart ass at times,it is in his character.
He doesn't mean any harm. Wink

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