#834 broke down

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RonSkj wrote:
Don't get your panties in a knot.. The post was a positive one except for one know it all err.. doneitall. Good luck Hunter. And don't...
Don't get your panties in a knot.. The post was a positive one except for one know it all err.. doneitall. Good luck Hunter. And don't let the few, discourage you from stopping bye.
I dont wear panties...I go COMMANDO!!! Tongue
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Look out below- we are lucky enough to have some friends volunteering to take me to lakewood, so we are covered on the room and board, but thanks for the offer.

and I know what you mean on the log in, I cant get one either.
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6/21/2010 3:36pm
Cool, if you need anything dont be afraid to ask. Good luck we will be rooting for ya!

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6/21/2010 4:29pm
Hunter, glad you cleared up this mess. Good luck this weekend. You'll be in good hands that's for sure.

And Steve, the pic is pretty small but I'm pretty sure that's Hunter's Mom. If it isn't it could be her twin.

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6/21/2010 5:02pm Edited Date/Time 6/21/2010 5:06pm
I don't doubt he's a great kid, and you can feel free to not like it if you want. I only described what it looked like to me...and it happened right in front of me in plain view.



Your vantage point of it was...?
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6/21/2010 5:05pm
Dadof3 wrote:
Hunter, glad you cleared up this mess. Good luck this weekend. You'll be in good hands that's for sure. And Steve, the pic is pretty small...
Hunter, glad you cleared up this mess. Good luck this weekend. You'll be in good hands that's for sure.

And Steve, the pic is pretty small but I'm pretty sure that's Hunter's Mom. If it isn't it could be her twin.

Right-click on the photo, and from the pop-up menu pick Open in new window.
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6/21/2010 9:18pm Edited Date/Time 6/21/2010 9:19pm
GuyB wrote:
I don't doubt he's a great kid, and you can feel free to not like it if you want. I only described what it looked like...
I don't doubt he's a great kid, and you can feel free to not like it if you want. I only described what it looked like to me...and it happened right in front of me in plain view.



Your vantage point of it was...?
With 8:06 left in the moto a lapper, Rattray and Hahn are coming over the tunnel with the flagger on top of the tunnel in plain site of the riders. His flag out and pointing them to the outside. As they come down the hill you see Hunter sitting on his bike on the inside line parallel with the track, head turned watching behind him. I can't figure out why the bike would be parallel with the track if he's pushing it across the track perpendicular.



Also, to Mxfreak. You said "there is only like a 1 foot gap between it and the banner". Go watch it again. I'd would say there's easily 4 feet there. You can see it clearly with 8:02 left in the moto as they go by Hunter. Still not a lot of room but I'm not sure where else the kid was suppose to go with a locked up bike.



I apologize for dragging this out. But I will stand by what I posted earlier about your comment under the photo. I think you may have realized what impact that comment had or you wouldn't have deleted the photo. The kid's a privateer struggling to get to every race he can and in my eyes and possibly future sponsors? you belittled him.



The photos you shoot are still human beings in an extremely fast paced, highly competitive sport. One where Hunter is trying to break into. "IF" he acted the way you described it was from the heart, heat of the moment. Would a sponsored rider of the class acted the same? Probably not. They probably would have left the bike lay on the side of the track, hopped over the banner and waited for team Rhino to pick them up. I'm sure they would have been pissed but I haven't seen many push a broken bike across the track, then kneel down (while Mom holds the bike) and inspect the damage hoping to fix it himself.



You're aware shots you take are seen by thousands of people. Same thing goes for the comments posted with them. Would you have posted that same comment with the same circumstances of any of the top 5 in the 250s? I think the comment would have been more along the lines of, "Here's where bad luck struck (top 5 rider) when his hub broke and sprocket turned sideways to lock up the rear wheel ending his day and chance at a podium finish".



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6/21/2010 9:27pm
Hey guyb you say you could of called him out with his name and all. I'm thinking that's pretty much what you did, I mean by looking at the photo and blow it up a little bit you can see his number and name so that being said I believe you did.

No harm no foul tho, hopefully this has been a learning experience for us all! Thanks for posting the extra pics of him, would like to see more of him in action. See you all at Lakewood.
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6/22/2010 3:21am Edited Date/Time 6/22/2010 4:03am


GuyB wrote: I don't doubt he's a great kid, and you can feel free to not like it if you want. I only described what it looked like to me...and it happened right in front of me in plain view.

Your vantage point of it was...?



GuyB wrote: I don't doubt he's a great kid, and you can feel free to not like it if you want. I only described what it looked like to me...and it happened right in front of me in plain view.

Your vantage point of it was...?

Dadof3 wrote: With 8:06 left in the moto a lapper, Rattray and Hahn are coming over the tunnel with the flagger on top of the tunnel in plain site of the riders. His flag out and pointing them to the outside. As they come down the hill you see Hunter sitting on his bike on the inside line parallel with the track, head turned watching behind him. I can't figure out why the bike would be parallel with the track if he's pushing it across the track perpendicular.

Also, to Mxfreak. You said "there is only like a 1 foot gap between it and the banner". Go watch it again. I'd would say there's easily 4 feet there. You can see it clearly with 8:02 left in the moto as they go by Hunter. Still not a lot of room but I'm not sure where else the kid was suppose to go with a locked up bike.

I apologize for dragging this out. But I will stand by what I posted earlier about your comment under the photo. I think you may have realized what impact that comment had or you wouldn't have deleted the photo. The kid's a privateer struggling to get to every race he can and in my eyes and possibly future sponsors? you belittled him.

The photos you shoot are still human beings in an extremely fast paced, highly competitive sport. One where Hunter is trying to break into. "IF" he acted the way you described it was from the heart, heat of the moment. Would a sponsored rider of the class acted the same? Probably not. They probably would have left the bike lay on the side of the track, hopped over the banner and waited for team Rhino to pick them up. I'm sure they would have been pissed but I haven't seen many push a broken bike across the track, then kneel down (while Mom holds the bike) and inspect the damage hoping to fix it himself.

You're aware shots you take are seen by thousands of people. Same thing goes for the comments posted with them. Would you have posted that same comment with the same circumstances of any of the top 5 in the 250s? I think the comment would have been more along the lines of, "Here's where bad luck struck (top 5 rider) when his hub broke and sprocket turned sideways to lock up the rear wheel ending his day and chance at a podium finish".








OH...one last thing.....Mr. B.





..........have a wonderful day!"



damned fine detective work there Dadof3, if I were on the jury I think I know who I would believe.....Good Luck team #834, from someone who happens to know you I know you can laugh it off and look towards tommorrow.
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6/22/2010 5:17am
of course this someone that knows the family. it seems like 10 people from kansas city area has joined the forum within the past 20 days to try and get this kid a factory ride!

sorry, not happening. save the money and the ego.
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FTW 674 wrote:
of course this someone that knows the family. it seems like 10 people from kansas city area has joined the forum within the past 20 days...
of course this someone that knows the family. it seems like 10 people from kansas city area has joined the forum within the past 20 days to try and get this kid a factory ride!

sorry, not happening. save the money and the ego.
Been a member for two years vs. your six months FTW...because I've known the Clements family for years makes me knowledgeable about their commitment, attitude and all around great nature gives me an insight you don't have. Go back to your playstation because your money is best spent there and your knowledge is limited to your opinion when it comes to being a privateer living your dream.
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Sorry, I don't know how to use the quote yet....But here is FTW 674 Quote-"of course this someone that knows the family. it seems like 10 people from kansas city area has joined the forum within the past 20 days to try and get this kid a factory ride! sorry, not happening. save the money and the ego."

So, FTW 674, people who know Hunter and his family can't join this board and be proud and happy for him? WOW! I guess you can say I'm a lurker on this site, but just joined so that i can get in on some internet bashing and be a tough guy like you. Shocked Hunter is a great kid that I consider one of my own. Who cares if we all hope some day he gets a factory ride. Isn't that the ultimate MX dream? He has the support of his parents, grandparents and many MX families behind him wishing him the best of luck in whatever he does!Kissing
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6/22/2010 9:17am Edited Date/Time 6/22/2010 9:21am
just joined a week ago, and we won't get hunter a factory ride, he will get that on his own--5 out of 6 motos in his first nationals fighting for top20-25 spots never seeing the tracks before--high school 16 years old and doesn't really get to practice--he'll be ok with or without your support-because the people in the business are already taking notice and sure aren't as ignorant as you seem to be
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6/22/2010 1:45pm Edited Date/Time 6/22/2010 1:47pm
How can ANYBODY play "Debbie-Downer" with this kid? He deserves some attention and some help (even if his mom isn't sleeping with industry insiders).

I love the drama and the back-story. I was not watching timing & scoring for the front-runners. I was tracking some kid I'd never heard of two weeks before.

Hunter...do what you do, dude. Glad you had the stones to post here to clarify some details. You join a family of REAL people that includes David Vuilleman, Zach Osborne, Sean Hamblin, and a lot of guys who hide behind "screen names".

I think the flamers and haters and conspiracy theorists could learn a lot from this high-school kid. Then again, those assholes don't learn very well. They just spout crap about things they will never understand.

Kick ass, Hunter. Some of us are watching. (even some great people inside the "industry").
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He does ride dirt bikes.. Just not that good....[embed][/embed]

JK--JK--EZ, Grinning Grinning
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How can ANYBODY play "Debbie-Downer" with this kid? He deserves some attention and some help (even if his mom isn't sleeping with industry insiders). I love...
How can ANYBODY play "Debbie-Downer" with this kid? He deserves some attention and some help (even if his mom isn't sleeping with industry insiders).

I love the drama and the back-story. I was not watching timing & scoring for the front-runners. I was tracking some kid I'd never heard of two weeks before.

Hunter...do what you do, dude. Glad you had the stones to post here to clarify some details. You join a family of REAL people that includes David Vuilleman, Zach Osborne, Sean Hamblin, and a lot of guys who hide behind "screen names".

I think the flamers and haters and conspiracy theorists could learn a lot from this high-school kid. Then again, those assholes don't learn very well. They just spout crap about things they will never understand.

Kick ass, Hunter. Some of us are watching. (even some great people inside the "industry").
Right on! That's the kind of post I like to read! Good luck this weekend Hunter! We'll be watching and waiting for updates!
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6/22/2010 1:50pm
Hey 711, I was pullin for ya last weekend, bud! You almost had it! I wish you were gonna be in Colorado to throw some one footers with me this weekend!
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And I never claimed I rode dirtbikes GOOD, but I do have fun. That was a 250f too. I weigh 315lbs. It's like an elephant riding a flee.
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Good luck and maybe we will meet in Colorado Hunter.
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Hey 711, I was pullin for ya last weekend, bud! You almost had it! I wish you were gonna be in Colorado to throw some one...
Hey 711, I was pullin for ya last weekend, bud! You almost had it! I wish you were gonna be in Colorado to throw some one footers with me this weekend!
bq This is his dad, he is not smart enough (translation=stupid enough) to get in the middle of this internet nonsense! Are you trying to qualify for Colorado?
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6/22/2010 11:16pm Edited Date/Time 6/23/2010 12:44am
this talk of hunter being irresponsible on the track is pretty short sighted..... how quickly people forget history. before anyone gets on hunter's ass, let's take a look back at some of the most retarded and just plain dangerous on track behavior I've ever seen from a professional rider:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVkKi4jNfGI - go ahead and skip to 48 seconds in.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho8dea1JbVo - fast forward to 22 seconds in.





at least hunter has the sense to look behind him and see if anyone is coming before he exits the track..... unlike some of the other professional riders that feel they are the only ones out there that matter. stewart is lucky he hasn't killed someone yet.



hunter, I trust your judgement and know you would not risk the safety of other riders. good luck in lakewood.
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6/23/2010 4:04am
Well, this thread started out pretty well, but now it's kind of a horror show, due to a perceived slight on Hunter.

Now we're reduced to posting clips of other riders?

I made the observation based purely on what I saw in front of me, not from the couch in front of a TV, and not from my personal relationship with him, like most of the recent posts in here.

The comments I made were in the interests of safety, not to try and hurt anyone's reputation, etc. If it had been a factory guy, I would have made the same exact observation.

Here's hoping that Lakewood gets him noticed for positive results.
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If you refuse to say you're sorry does that mean you love him?

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