Hats off to Clement Desalle!!!

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There are 2 GP's untill the next national at Aug 15 Smile
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FastEddy wrote:
The kid comes over here to a unfamiliar country, and is on unfamiliar equipment, and races on a unfamiliar track and pulls off a solid podium...
The kid comes over here to a unfamiliar country, and is on unfamiliar equipment, and races on a unfamiliar track and pulls off a solid podium in moto1 in the big boy class. Smile

Hope he gets another good start in moto2 and pulls off another top3.

The U.S. riders look much better going over for a single appearance on a GP track each year than the GP riders did that Sat at Budds. No offense and yes they got it together on Sunday but on qualifying day they looked like amateurs do when they first get on an SX track
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@cpj36

No offense but at Budds the european riders showed up to take on the home team on their favorite kind of track, but when the US riders had to go to Lierop which is a deep sand track.......
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7/25/2009 7:08pm Edited Date/Time 7/25/2009 7:09pm
Looked like a bad start for him in MoTo #2.
However,he still pulled off a top10 over all for the day.
Congrats to the kid!

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@cpj36 No offense but at Budds the european riders showed up to take on the home team on their favorite kind of track, but when the...
@cpj36

No offense but at Budds the european riders showed up to take on the home team on their favorite kind of track, but when the US riders had to go to Lierop which is a deep sand track.......
Of course, Ricky, Kevin and James can't ride the sand. Budds was far from ideal, at the national that year it looked like they were preparing for Budds Creek GP. It's hard to know how the GP teams would view that race if it was always on this side of the planet, they've had to come one time in 20 years, if it was in the States every year I'm sure there would always be a US effort of some kind.

For someone afraid of sand James managed a decent ride against De Reuver
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Yep, that was a decent ride of Stewart against De Reuver. To bad it wasn't on a sand track.

There has been a lot of talk about Stewart coming over to Europe for at least 1 sand GP because Stewart loves the sand and he has time on his hands since he is not riding the nationals. Next weekend Lommel is coming up... the 1st of the big 2 sand races in sandraces. And i mean sandraces, not like that fake sand in Southwick. Sadly all of a sudden it got quiet around Stewart. I hear nothing about Stewart coming to Lommel, or Lierop for that matter. Lierop will be held on august 30th.... i guess there still is time..
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7/26/2009 1:17am Edited Date/Time 7/26/2009 1:19am
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Yep, that was a decent ride of Stewart against De Reuver. To bad it wasn't on a sand track. There has been a lot of talk...
Yep, that was a decent ride of Stewart against De Reuver. To bad it wasn't on a sand track.

There has been a lot of talk about Stewart coming over to Europe for at least 1 sand GP because Stewart loves the sand and he has time on his hands since he is not riding the nationals. Next weekend Lommel is coming up... the 1st of the big 2 sand races in sandraces. And i mean sandraces, not like that fake sand in Southwick. Sadly all of a sudden it got quiet around Stewart. I hear nothing about Stewart coming to Lommel, or Lierop for that matter. Lierop will be held on august 30th.... i guess there still is time..
I believe he is not gonna be doing any GP's , just the XGames.
It is a real bummer!!!
I would love to see him at Lierop,that race kicks ass and is always exciting to watch.
Last years moto2 in the MX1 class was one of the most exciting MX races I have ever seen,so many different leaders and The Sand Man came out on top.
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I suppose Desalle took too many risks after his bad start in the 2nd heat ?
After 1 lap in position 24, lap 2 already 17th, lap 3 in 14th and then he crashed.
If he could have finished in the top 10, a top 5 overall result was possible.
But ... if, could, should doesn't count of course.
The kid wanted to prove something but took too many risks, I guess ?
It was a crazy race for sure.
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Bummer.. i would've liked to see him in the sand. Not that i think he would loose, he still would have a big chance of winning but it would just be fantastic for the GP series to see Stewart lined up behind the gate.

And yep, the Lierop race last year was awesome. And so was the race in Lommel. Those sand races really are exciting to watch.

ow... and for those who still think that Southwick was a sand track... i found this for you guys. It was written last year by Jacob Saylor and he knows what he is talking about since he has ridden at both sides of the pond..

Being on a dirtbike is the most comfortable place I find myself. At least I thought that before I arrived here. The unfamiliar tracks I visited where the most alien of all places to me. The disection of each, were often met with such massive humbling experiences. Simply put, it was the hardest challenge I have faced as a rider. The legendary sand tracks put to shame anything I have contested before. The many months in Florida riding places like Croom and Dade City could hardly prepare you for bottomless sands of Lommel or Leirop.
I got a literal crash course in motocross "101". I found myself struggling many times in attempts to full fill my potential, and own personal ego was deflated by being passed by riders I had honestly had no clue about. That followed shortly with a new found respect and names I would be remembering all season. It was impossible to revert my mental strength back to my amateur days when I was a cocky son of a bitch and nobody else mattered. After my first race in Valkenswaard, I knew it was going to be one long season.

( http://jacobsaylor.loopd.com/Members/jsaylor/Blog.aspx?month=9&year=2008 )
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Rudicross wrote:
I suppose Desalle took too many risks after his bad start in the 2nd heat ? After 1 lap in position 24, lap 2 already 17th...
I suppose Desalle took too many risks after his bad start in the 2nd heat ?
After 1 lap in position 24, lap 2 already 17th, lap 3 in 14th and then he crashed.
If he could have finished in the top 10, a top 5 overall result was possible.
But ... if, could, should doesn't count of course.
The kid wanted to prove something but took too many risks, I guess ?
It was a crazy race for sure.
Sounds like he brain farted. I guess who wouldn't in is pants...
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He's like a young DeCoster..great stuff, cant wait to see it on tv. Dry
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DeSalle put in a great ride......Fact.
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Well done Clement AMA fans doesnt watch GPs so thay dont know much about riders, and if somebody like De Reuver last year in Southwick 3th place and Desalle now thay think thay were lucky but if Desalle start ahead of Reed he could won. everyone who watch both championships and is a former rider has to agree. Why AMA riders dont come to GP??? we all know why!!! next week is AMA race free so AMA riders can come to Lommel and show the world thay not scary of sand. ;-)))) but they wont
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jndmx wrote:
DeSalle put in a great ride......Fact.
Agreed.
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Well done Clement AMA fans doesnt watch GPs so thay dont know much about riders, and if somebody like De Reuver last year in Southwick 3th...
Well done Clement AMA fans doesnt watch GPs so thay dont know much about riders, and if somebody like De Reuver last year in Southwick 3th place and Desalle now thay think thay were lucky but if Desalle start ahead of Reed he could won. everyone who watch both championships and is a former rider has to agree. Why AMA riders dont come to GP??? we all know why!!! next week is AMA race free so AMA riders can come to Lommel and show the world thay not scary of sand. ;-)))) but they wont
No money or prestige. If they win, they they were supposed to. But if they lose, the GP fans will beat off to it for years. Nothing to gain. We wait for MXDN every year to shut you clowns down. Lucky for you our top guys are all hurt or not racing (maybe) at this years MXDN, so you may get thrown a bone. Enjoy it, cause next year with James, a healthy RV (he could still drop down to a 250f and school everyone again), and a healthy Alessi, we will go 1-1-1. Then the mass suicide in the GP's will begin again. GP GP GP GP!!!!
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Southwick ain't sand and GP tracks are fast, and because there is nothing to separate the better riders, they're easy and everyone is wide open. Which sanctioning body invented limitations on obstacles? When you remove whoops and triples does that make it easier or harder to run with a more skilled competitor.
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No money or prestige. If they win, they they were supposed to. But if they lose, the GP fans will beat off to it for years...
No money or prestige. If they win, they they were supposed to. But if they lose, the GP fans will beat off to it for years. Nothing to gain. We wait for MXDN every year to shut you clowns down. Lucky for you our top guys are all hurt or not racing (maybe) at this years MXDN, so you may get thrown a bone. Enjoy it, cause next year with James, a healthy RV (he could still drop down to a 250f and school everyone again), and a healthy Alessi, we will go 1-1-1. Then the mass suicide in the GP's will begin again. GP GP GP GP!!!!
Mx of Nations is about luck i visit 3 from last 4 events like a press but team USA was best anyway no doubt. Its simple AMA riders are making bigger money than GP and thay bigger stars thats common sence. If im a star in my country probably i wouldnt go to to other to get myself in shame and get kicked . For example Windham get offer from Honda to ride British GP and he didnt come. Same oportunity to come and show Millsaps, Tedesco, Grant etc AMA stars but.... somehow no!
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@cpj36

You may keep your whoops and triples and your 2 best guys out with injuries.
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@cpj36

You may keep your whoops and triples and your 2 best guys out with injuries.
could also just say why bother with motocross and broken bones or wheel chairs.
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No money or prestige. If they win, they they were supposed to. But if they lose, the GP fans will beat off to it for years...
No money or prestige. If they win, they they were supposed to. But if they lose, the GP fans will beat off to it for years. Nothing to gain. We wait for MXDN every year to shut you clowns down. Lucky for you our top guys are all hurt or not racing (maybe) at this years MXDN, so you may get thrown a bone. Enjoy it, cause next year with James, a healthy RV (he could still drop down to a 250f and school everyone again), and a healthy Alessi, we will go 1-1-1. Then the mass suicide in the GP's will begin again. GP GP GP GP!!!!
You really don't get it, do you ?

Let's go over it again..

You say your top guys are hurt and are not racing so maybe some euro country will get thrown a bone and will be able to win.

Now for you guys it's not a disaster if someone is hurt. You have an entire series to choose from. One guy is hurt ? Easy... pick the next rider.

For the small country's in Europe it's not like that. Most country's don't even have 3 competitive pro riders, some don't even have 3 pro riders and have to come with amateurs.
Take Belgium for example. My guess it that there are approximately 15 riders in Belgium that earn a living doing motocross. 10 of those ride GP's. 5 of those are capable of winning a GP. (btw.. don't get fooled, that is a lot compared to other country's... Spain, Portugal, Sweden... probably have to do it with 1 or 2 pro riders). Right now 3 of those 5 riders that can win a GP are injured. Do you know what that means for the mxdn where 3 riders have to ride ?
You keep on wining how you maybe will loose because some of your best riders are injured. Do you think your country is the only country were people get injured ? Did you ever stop to think how an inury of one of the top riders affects the team ? Did you ever thought about the fact that if you have 50 riders to choose from it's not such a big deal if someone is injured then if you have 5 riders to choose from. Did you ever think of the fact that some country's only have 3 pro riders so if someone gets hurt that is just a disaster ? Did you ever stop to think about country's who don't even have 3 pro riders ? They have to come with 1 pro and 2 guys that normally don't even ride GP's but only ride amateur races in their own country.

Now stop whining on a few guys that are hurt. Every country has riders that are hurt. It's just not so bad for team USA as it is for other country's.
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Goride333 wrote:
No money or prestige. If they win, they they were supposed to. But if they lose, the GP fans will beat off to it for years...
No money or prestige. If they win, they they were supposed to. But if they lose, the GP fans will beat off to it for years. Nothing to gain. We wait for MXDN every year to shut you clowns down. Lucky for you our top guys are all hurt or not racing (maybe) at this years MXDN, so you may get thrown a bone. Enjoy it, cause next year with James, a healthy RV (he could still drop down to a 250f and school everyone again), and a healthy Alessi, we will go 1-1-1. Then the mass suicide in the GP's will begin again. GP GP GP GP!!!!
mumhra wrote:
You really don't get it, do you ? Let's go over it again.. You say your top guys are hurt and are not racing so maybe...
You really don't get it, do you ?

Let's go over it again..

You say your top guys are hurt and are not racing so maybe some euro country will get thrown a bone and will be able to win.

Now for you guys it's not a disaster if someone is hurt. You have an entire series to choose from. One guy is hurt ? Easy... pick the next rider.

For the small country's in Europe it's not like that. Most country's don't even have 3 competitive pro riders, some don't even have 3 pro riders and have to come with amateurs.
Take Belgium for example. My guess it that there are approximately 15 riders in Belgium that earn a living doing motocross. 10 of those ride GP's. 5 of those are capable of winning a GP. (btw.. don't get fooled, that is a lot compared to other country's... Spain, Portugal, Sweden... probably have to do it with 1 or 2 pro riders). Right now 3 of those 5 riders that can win a GP are injured. Do you know what that means for the mxdn where 3 riders have to ride ?
You keep on wining how you maybe will loose because some of your best riders are injured. Do you think your country is the only country were people get injured ? Did you ever stop to think how an inury of one of the top riders affects the team ? Did you ever thought about the fact that if you have 50 riders to choose from it's not such a big deal if someone is injured then if you have 5 riders to choose from. Did you ever think of the fact that some country's only have 3 pro riders so if someone gets hurt that is just a disaster ? Did you ever stop to think about country's who don't even have 3 pro riders ? They have to come with 1 pro and 2 guys that normally don't even ride GP's but only ride amateur races in their own country.

Now stop whining on a few guys that are hurt. Every country has riders that are hurt. It's just not so bad for team USA as it is for other country's.
I agree! Imagine if the US had to send teams by states rather than as a whole. Florida and California would be strong and might be able to put 3 pro riders on the team while some states would have to do with a Top pro rider like RV and two amateurs for Washington (not sure who's from WA).

The thing for Euro teams is that if one of the top rider is out the replacement rider is usually a lot slower. The US has a big advantage in the fact that if JS is out, the lets take RV, if out MA, if out JG, if out IT, if out Shorty... it's easy to pick a replacement rider and the gap won't be that much difference.

Take France MX1 for example. If all healthy it should Seb Pourcel (potential top 3GP), if out then DV (11th in standings), if out (Aranda (13th), if out Leonce (22nd). And France is a country with a lot of rider. Germany for example in MX1 has Nagl (2nd) and ... well that's it
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mumhra wrote:
You really don't get it, do you ? Let's go over it again.. You say your top guys are hurt and are not racing so maybe...
You really don't get it, do you ?

Let's go over it again..

You say your top guys are hurt and are not racing so maybe some euro country will get thrown a bone and will be able to win.

Now for you guys it's not a disaster if someone is hurt. You have an entire series to choose from. One guy is hurt ? Easy... pick the next rider.

For the small country's in Europe it's not like that. Most country's don't even have 3 competitive pro riders, some don't even have 3 pro riders and have to come with amateurs.
Take Belgium for example. My guess it that there are approximately 15 riders in Belgium that earn a living doing motocross. 10 of those ride GP's. 5 of those are capable of winning a GP. (btw.. don't get fooled, that is a lot compared to other country's... Spain, Portugal, Sweden... probably have to do it with 1 or 2 pro riders). Right now 3 of those 5 riders that can win a GP are injured. Do you know what that means for the mxdn where 3 riders have to ride ?
You keep on wining how you maybe will loose because some of your best riders are injured. Do you think your country is the only country were people get injured ? Did you ever stop to think how an inury of one of the top riders affects the team ? Did you ever thought about the fact that if you have 50 riders to choose from it's not such a big deal if someone is injured then if you have 5 riders to choose from. Did you ever think of the fact that some country's only have 3 pro riders so if someone gets hurt that is just a disaster ? Did you ever stop to think about country's who don't even have 3 pro riders ? They have to come with 1 pro and 2 guys that normally don't even ride GP's but only ride amateur races in their own country.

Now stop whining on a few guys that are hurt. Every country has riders that are hurt. It's just not so bad for team USA as it is for other country's.
Good post but don't bother mate.
Some just won't get it.
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Jefro98 wrote:
Good post but don't bother mate.
Some just won't get it.
I thougt so to Jefro but all of a sudden it has gone awfully quiet in here so maybe some of them finally understand it.
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I thougt so to Jefro but all of a sudden it has gone awfully quiet in here so maybe some of them finally understand it.
When they finally understand some other clown signs up and you can start all over again. I stopped trying a few years ago.
Wait till MXGeoff shows up again a few weeks before the MXdN, always fun times on the boards. :-) The BS flying around at mxdn time is classic.

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