What would James have done?

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Thats right, you will never know. But what I can tell you is that James never turned into Chad. What a dork! He was trying to stay away from Reed and when he tried to slow down on the track (in the stadium) and let him by, Reed didn't take it. Reed waited to get in the back section and try to take him out. I guess he didn't think there would be camera's back there. LOL.
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5/6/2009 6:34pm
nc97 wrote:
If the roles and the points had been the other way? I say Reed would have been picking his bike up off the dirt. Whistling
And what if you hadn't posted another redundant thread about James, Reed, points and Vegas....then you drag him into the mud just to get a rise on here...."He woulda been picking up his bike off dirt"...lol

Likely he would've raced him and well.............I guess you'll never know but don't assume the worst so you can start another fued on here with endless opinated and biased views.
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5/6/2009 6:37pm Edited Date/Time 5/6/2009 6:43pm
LarryB wrote:
Because Kyle really made a mistake and everyone blew it out of the water. Do you think James needed help to win that race or any...
Because Kyle really made a mistake and everyone blew it out of the water. Do you think James needed help to win that race or any race? The answer is no. You guys sound like a broken record and it's getting old talking about this over and over. FIM reviewed the tape and didn't even say they were sure Kyle had done it on purpose, but all the fans say it was on purpose. I'll give you the address to my shop and you can come over here and explain to me how you know it was Kyle's fault. Other than that drop it.
rc4187 wrote:
i don't mean to argue... im not really a contentious person. i realize james does not need help to win races.. but to deny he got...
i don't mean to argue... im not really a contentious person. i realize james does not need help to win races.. but to deny he got help from that incident isn't an intelligent statement either. it's not black and white. reed went from right on rear wheel to not even close after hit. you can say stewart would have won anyway and that's a fair assumption... but you cannot say he definately would have. we were denied the conclusion to a great battle.
Reed gave up right when Kyle came into that corner too fast and ran up on him. Chad is King of the excuses. That was his why of saying "I could have won this Championship, but since Kyle got close to me James won". An excuse, is an excuse, that's it. It's not fact. The fact is, Reed lost maybe a half second when Kyle scared him and that's it. Take your stopwatch and time the gap between James and Chad entering the corner and then time the gap exiting the whoops. You'll see.

Sorry for blowing your forum up GuyB, but I just had to say something.
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LarryB wrote:
I don't care what anyone says. When we got the bike back to the shop the disc cover had black rubber all over the bottom of...
I don't care what anyone says. When we got the bike back to the shop the disc cover had black rubber all over the bottom of it from Reed's tire. So out the window with your, you have to hit a rider in the wheel because that happened so I guess he was trying to take James out, right?


Oh let me guess Chad Reed would never do that, even thou you saw him cut over of Stewart as James was letting him by? Think what you want, but Chad Reed is as dirty of a rider as they come. He was just not as fast as James. What did Reed have 3 wins to Stewart's 11 wins. Yea that's pretty close.......NOT.


Yea that's right, I'm going to say what I feel.
you get reeds tire DNA off that disk guard?

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Congrads to James a derserved championship.

But Chad Reed is the man and he won over a lot of new fans - very cool.

Hope he does the Nats. which you would have to think he is lining up for.
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5/6/2009 6:41pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 11:47pm
LarryB wrote:
Reed gave up right when Kyle came into that corner too fast and ran up on him. Chad is King of the excuses. That was his...
Reed gave up right when Kyle came into that corner too fast and ran up on him. Chad is King of the excuses. That was his why of saying "I could have won this Championship, but since Kyle got close to me James won". An excuse, is an excuse, that's it. It's not fact. The fact is, Reed lost maybe a half second when Kyle scared him and that's it. Take your stopwatch and time the gap between James and Chad entering the corner and then time the gap exiting the whoops. You'll see.

Sorry for blowing your forum up GuyB, but I just had to say something.
what's L&M's excuse for not backing there best rider for the nationals? please say he's coming to play.........
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LarryB wrote:
Because Kyle really made a mistake and everyone blew it out of the water. Do you think James needed help to win that race or any...
Because Kyle really made a mistake and everyone blew it out of the water. Do you think James needed help to win that race or any race? The answer is no. You guys sound like a broken record and it's getting old talking about this over and over. FIM reviewed the tape and didn't even say they were sure Kyle had done it on purpose, but all the fans say it was on purpose. I'll give you the address to my shop and you can come over here and explain to me how you know it was Kyle's fault. Other than that drop it.
rc4187 wrote:
i don't mean to argue... im not really a contentious person. i realize james does not need help to win races.. but to deny he got...
i don't mean to argue... im not really a contentious person. i realize james does not need help to win races.. but to deny he got help from that incident isn't an intelligent statement either. it's not black and white. reed went from right on rear wheel to not even close after hit. you can say stewart would have won anyway and that's a fair assumption... but you cannot say he definately would have. we were denied the conclusion to a great battle.
LarryB wrote:
Reed gave up right when Kyle came into that corner too fast and ran up on him. Chad is King of the excuses. That was his...
Reed gave up right when Kyle came into that corner too fast and ran up on him. Chad is King of the excuses. That was his why of saying "I could have won this Championship, but since Kyle got close to me James won". An excuse, is an excuse, that's it. It's not fact. The fact is, Reed lost maybe a half second when Kyle scared him and that's it. Take your stopwatch and time the gap between James and Chad entering the corner and then time the gap exiting the whoops. You'll see.

Sorry for blowing your forum up GuyB, but I just had to say something.
Just to understand... "Kyle got close to Reed" and, "Reed totally hit James"...

Ok, got it... When I watched those two incidents I saw almost the exact opposite thing, but, hey, I'm just a nobody so I really don't count.
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Congrads to James a derserved championship. But Chad Reed is the man and he won over a lot of new fans - very cool. Hope he...
Congrads to James a derserved championship.

But Chad Reed is the man and he won over a lot of new fans - very cool.

Hope he does the Nats. which you would have to think he is lining up for.
Yea, RV and Alessi hope he does the Outdoors also. They will smoke Chad Reed Outdoors.
5/6/2009 6:42pm Edited Date/Time 5/6/2009 6:43pm
Congrads to James a derserved championship. But Chad Reed is the man and he won over a lot of new fans - very cool. Hope he...
Congrads to James a derserved championship.

But Chad Reed is the man and he won over a lot of new fans - very cool.

Hope he does the Nats. which you would have to think he is lining up for.
they were talking on DMXS radio that reed got MIKE's ride for the outdoors? dont know if there is any truth to it but they(suzuki) did not like the fact that mike (being a true sportsman) congradulated james on a Title well deserved
5/6/2009 6:43pm
Hey, the circus has left town!
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rc4187 wrote:
i don't mean to argue... im not really a contentious person. i realize james does not need help to win races.. but to deny he got...
i don't mean to argue... im not really a contentious person. i realize james does not need help to win races.. but to deny he got help from that incident isn't an intelligent statement either. it's not black and white. reed went from right on rear wheel to not even close after hit. you can say stewart would have won anyway and that's a fair assumption... but you cannot say he definately would have. we were denied the conclusion to a great battle.
LarryB wrote:
Reed gave up right when Kyle came into that corner too fast and ran up on him. Chad is King of the excuses. That was his...
Reed gave up right when Kyle came into that corner too fast and ran up on him. Chad is King of the excuses. That was his why of saying "I could have won this Championship, but since Kyle got close to me James won". An excuse, is an excuse, that's it. It's not fact. The fact is, Reed lost maybe a half second when Kyle scared him and that's it. Take your stopwatch and time the gap between James and Chad entering the corner and then time the gap exiting the whoops. You'll see.

Sorry for blowing your forum up GuyB, but I just had to say something.
ChrisB wrote:
Just to understand... "Kyle got close to Reed" and, "Reed totally hit James"... Ok, got it... When I watched those two incidents I saw almost the...
Just to understand... "Kyle got close to Reed" and, "Reed totally hit James"...

Ok, got it... When I watched those two incidents I saw almost the exact opposite thing, but, hey, I'm just a nobody so I really don't count.
Right James was knocked off the track in Vegas and Reed never left his line in SLC. Right or wrong???

Come on guy, didn't you watch this on TV?
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"What would James have done" that could be a new bracelet, like the WWJD ones. We shall call it the WWJhD. I like the sound of that. ill pitch the idea and see if it sticks.
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5/6/2009 6:44pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 11:47pm
LarryB wrote:
Thats right, you will never know. But what I can tell you is that James never turned into Chad. What a dork! He was trying to...
Thats right, you will never know. But what I can tell you is that James never turned into Chad. What a dork! He was trying to stay away from Reed and when he tried to slow down on the track (in the stadium) and let him by, Reed didn't take it. Reed waited to get in the back section and try to take him out. I guess he didn't think there would be camera's back there. LOL.
You ever see a basketball player, usually a big man standing in the paint, guy drives to the bucket and run into the big man? The big man takes the charge hoping to draw a foul, sometimes he even "flops" or over reacts hoping he gets the call. It looked as if Stewart tried the same.

Take a little bump, over react and worse case scenario, the Fim/AMA step in. If not, he still has a big lead, takes a small hit, recovers and in the end, plays Chad out to be the bad guy. Nothing wrong with it, but playing up Chad to be a cheater or take out guy is not necessary.

Everything played out, the best man won, IMO "move along, nothing to see here" but initiating more drama could draw more negative press than bad. You're better than that, so is James. One question, have you heard much of anything from DeCoster during this? All the respect in the world, but do what you do and let the wins tally up, not the drama.
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LarryB wrote:
Reed gave up right when Kyle came into that corner too fast and ran up on him. Chad is King of the excuses. That was his...
Reed gave up right when Kyle came into that corner too fast and ran up on him. Chad is King of the excuses. That was his why of saying "I could have won this Championship, but since Kyle got close to me James won". An excuse, is an excuse, that's it. It's not fact. The fact is, Reed lost maybe a half second when Kyle scared him and that's it. Take your stopwatch and time the gap between James and Chad entering the corner and then time the gap exiting the whoops. You'll see.

Sorry for blowing your forum up GuyB, but I just had to say something.
1 thing... i never heard reed say that. (im not an insider, all i have to go by are interviews.)

another thing... last year you defended reed for everything. he was your guy. you said he was the toughest, baddest dude you knew. you said he speaks his mind and it comes across as excuses. which Larry are we supposed to believe anymore? the stewart Larry or the reed Larry.

bad blood aside... if you personally were in reeds position, what would you have done just out of curiosity. you're a racer, and i think you would have done the same.

if it's any consolation im still a fan of your racing days.
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LarryB wrote:
Reed gave up right when Kyle came into that corner too fast and ran up on him. Chad is King of the excuses. That was his...
Reed gave up right when Kyle came into that corner too fast and ran up on him. Chad is King of the excuses. That was his why of saying "I could have won this Championship, but since Kyle got close to me James won". An excuse, is an excuse, that's it. It's not fact. The fact is, Reed lost maybe a half second when Kyle scared him and that's it. Take your stopwatch and time the gap between James and Chad entering the corner and then time the gap exiting the whoops. You'll see.

Sorry for blowing your forum up GuyB, but I just had to say something.
ChrisB wrote:
Just to understand... "Kyle got close to Reed" and, "Reed totally hit James"... Ok, got it... When I watched those two incidents I saw almost the...
Just to understand... "Kyle got close to Reed" and, "Reed totally hit James"...

Ok, got it... When I watched those two incidents I saw almost the exact opposite thing, but, hey, I'm just a nobody so I really don't count.
LarryB wrote:
Right James was knocked off the track in Vegas and Reed never left his line in SLC. Right or wrong??? Come on guy, didn't you watch...
Right James was knocked off the track in Vegas and Reed never left his line in SLC. Right or wrong???

Come on guy, didn't you watch this on TV?
Yes and no, Kyle would've had to hit Reed REALLY hard to push him out of a deep bowl turn yes? And when Chad supposedly SLAMMED James, they were in a flat sweeper... neither guy fell in the second incident BTW...

C'mon man.. this is moto. Just because some of these kooks cry about this stuff doesn't mean anything.
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The best man won the championship, end of story.
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roosty wrote:
The best man won the championship, end of story.
that is the end of the story.. just some would like the details in the middle explained.
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5/6/2009 6:51pm Edited Date/Time 5/6/2009 6:58pm
You can call me a liar, that's cool. The media has torn me up and I continue to hold my head up. I hear all you fans tear me up and I continue to try to tell you the truth. Believe me or not. you choose. I have to go, bye.
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Li´er (lī´ẽr)
n. 1. One who lies down; one who rests or remains, as in concealment.
There were liers in a ambush against him.
- Josh. viii. 14.
5/6/2009 6:54pm
LarryB wrote:
You can call me a liar, that's cool. The media has torn me up and I continue to hold my head up. I hear all you...
You can call me a liar, that's cool. The media has torn me up and I continue to hold my head up. I hear all you fans tear me up and I continue to try to tell you the truth. Believe me or not. you choose. I have to go, bye.
come on Larry dont give up on us just yet... there are some on here who admire the fact that you are willing to lay it on the line knowing the repercussions these boards can have....
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Congrads to James a derserved championship. But Chad Reed is the man and he won over a lot of new fans - very cool. Hope he...
Congrads to James a derserved championship.

But Chad Reed is the man and he won over a lot of new fans - very cool.

Hope he does the Nats. which you would have to think he is lining up for.
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Yea, RV and Alessi hope he does the Outdoors also. They will smoke Chad Reed Outdoors.
Your really immature for a team manager. I'd never see Roger or any other team manager come out and say that. Immature mate. Real immature. You sound 14 when you say that.
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Good morning, Australia...
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LarryB wrote:
You can call me a liar, that's cool. The media has torn me up and I continue to hold my head up. I hear all you...
You can call me a liar, that's cool. The media has torn me up and I continue to hold my head up. I hear all you fans tear me up and I continue to try to tell you the truth. Believe me or not. you choose. I have to go, bye.
if you are referring to my post... it is not my intention to call you a liar. and i appreciate the fact that you talk to us (even though it may not be the best thing for your image due to how people can take things.)

all im saying is that i'm looking at it from an unbiased point of view as a fan of both riders.

my point of view is not from the pits or the races except one a year due to me being employed in another industry. i do race and have been a fan for a long time.

guess i just wanted to know why you defended reed 2 years for the very thing you accuse him of now.

congrats by the way on the championship.
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5/6/2009 7:02pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 11:47pm
Bubba didn't put an 'aggressive' pass on Ricky in '06 in LV.

Just sayin'.
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Good morning, Australia...
Morning GuyB hows your day been?
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Good. I've only nuked one...so far.

Oh, wait, that's wrong. Another version of Ringer showed up today. So two.
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I think you might be goin for a hat trick LOL
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Good morning, Australia...
It's actually lunch. Do you not think that his comment is somewhat childish and something you would never expect to hear from a team manager, behind closed doors fair enough, but on a worldwide motocross forum, No.

Im not here to start crap. I just think that his comments arent doing him any favours, and make him look like more of a whinger and cry baby then what he says Reed is.
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LarryB wrote:
Reed gave up right when Kyle came into that corner too fast and ran up on him. Chad is King of the excuses. That was his...
Reed gave up right when Kyle came into that corner too fast and ran up on him. Chad is King of the excuses. That was his why of saying "I could have won this Championship, but since Kyle got close to me James won". An excuse, is an excuse, that's it. It's not fact. The fact is, Reed lost maybe a half second when Kyle scared him and that's it. Take your stopwatch and time the gap between James and Chad entering the corner and then time the gap exiting the whoops. You'll see.

Sorry for blowing your forum up GuyB, but I just had to say something.
ChrisB wrote:
Just to understand... "Kyle got close to Reed" and, "Reed totally hit James"... Ok, got it... When I watched those two incidents I saw almost the...
Just to understand... "Kyle got close to Reed" and, "Reed totally hit James"...

Ok, got it... When I watched those two incidents I saw almost the exact opposite thing, but, hey, I'm just a nobody so I really don't count.
LarryB wrote:
Right James was knocked off the track in Vegas and Reed never left his line in SLC. Right or wrong??? Come on guy, didn't you watch...
Right James was knocked off the track in Vegas and Reed never left his line in SLC. Right or wrong???

Come on guy, didn't you watch this on TV?
Did you?

You can clearly see in many replays that James veered left into Reed in that sweeper, when Reed had a wheel on him. Then he went right, into the tuff block area. James knew Reed was coming for at least the two laps prior to that. Why would he take an outside line around that turn? Seems to me to be just asking for trouble. Why didn't he just let off the gas and let him by? A dirty rider would have punted him over a berm. Or maybe into traffic. He passed on the flattest cleanest part of the track, there would have been no contact if James had held his line or backed off the throttle.

I do not agree with your assessment that Reed is a dirty rider, and I don't see what you have to gain in your capacity by resorting to public name calling. Seems pretty childish to me. I'm sure one could take incidents involving James and make the same argument about him, I don't want to go there. I also find it rather amusing that a high profile team manager can go on record in a column absolutely railing against the possibility of a lapped rider interfering with a championship situation, and not have the nads to offer even a simple apology when that very thing happens with his team. Or did I miss that?

In any event, there is no doubt that James was very worthy of this championship. He is an amazing talent, congratulations to him. Chad congratulated him also, in case you missed it.
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5/6/2009 7:14pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 11:47pm
LarryB wrote:
I don't care what anyone says. When we got the bike back to the shop the disc cover had black rubber all over the bottom of...
I don't care what anyone says. When we got the bike back to the shop the disc cover had black rubber all over the bottom of it from Reed's tire. So out the window with your, you have to hit a rider in the wheel because that happened so I guess he was trying to take James out, right?


Oh let me guess Chad Reed would never do that, even thou you saw him cut over of Stewart as James was letting him by? Think what you want, but Chad Reed is as dirty of a rider as they come. He was just not as fast as James. What did Reed have 3 wins to Stewart's 11 wins. Yea that's pretty close.......NOT.


Yea that's right, I'm going to say what I feel.
LB...waddup man? congrats man on a great season. it is over now though right? you are not a race team manager so to speak right now so give us yer take on this stuff as a racer. btw man...brian manley says hi...he also said you take his ass out so fast even in practice it wasn't even funny. hard racing is great and you sound like you knew/know how to do it..



look at this Larry....check the double look back my chisholm. now you said he wasn't ordered by you to do this right? did big james order it? did chisolm act on his own? doesn't matter anyways because team suzuki were convinced that it was intentional and they needed to retaliate at the next race..

http://bobbymx.com/...UTAHSX/roadblock.wmv

Now here's reed retaliating...was he trying to piss james off or really take him out? you say reed is a dirty rider right, but apparently not dirty enough because he can't even take another rider down and he doesn't even know where the best place to do it is. sounds like he's ther dumbest dirty rider there is.

http://bobbymx.com/...9/reedbomb_james.wmv

We all know james was the best...is the fastest. But without reed right there, james and you would have had an empty winning season. the satisfaction in no way shape or form would have matched what you guys feel today...right now would it?

be cool LB....loved the interview at vegas.


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