Conventional Film Help

aggiemoto99
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Edited Date/Time 1/24/2012 10:31am
Hey Guys

I am taking it back oldschool for a while using a conventional camera and film set up (I picked it up cheap off a guy at work.)

It's a cannon (I wish I had the model numberh handy) 35mm lens etc....it's a nice camera back then.

I am looking for some basic set up tips and any general pointers to film speed and such.

For action shots, I was thinking maybe an iso 400 if light is good, though I am guessing I will have to go even faster to get true frozen shots.

How about stlls and such. for general outdoor shots maybe a 200 iso?

Just wondering, any tips would be great!
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SteveS
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3/10/2009 6:44am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 10:52pm
I used film until just 3 years ago.


If you're talking print film, the general photography standby is Kodacolor 100.


For action, Kodacolor 400.


If you're indoors like an SX and want to shoot available light, then you're into Kodacolor VR1000 or Fujicolor 800 or 1600.


You'll have to deal with all kinds of color shifting indoors from the lights they use in the stadium.


I never found much use for the 200 films.
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3/10/2009 6:18pm
I seem to remember Ektachrome 200 pushed a stop was the ticket for gorgeous golden and highly contrasty stop-action stuff. Although, Fuji Velvia 100 pushed is nice too but I ain't exactly an authority on that...

I've been thinking about doing a little film this summer too since I haven't been able to sell my slide scanner.
aggiemoto99
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3/10/2009 8:04pm
thanks thus far!

After just playing with it some...I completely understand the digital revolution. It's a painto wait! Also pricey sometimes, but the crappy shots I have taken with no knowledge show major detail and that's really nice.
aggiemoto99
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3/16/2009 5:49pm
Little bump...

Camera is a cannon EOS rebel G with and 80mm lense.

Using iso 400 I have had some grainy shots...but they were too low light to begin with.


I tried some iso 200 because it was available locally near my house, and it's ok for stills, not eye poping, but decent.

It however is blurry for action shots....a good pan takes care of rider blur, but of course to get spokes adn dirt etc...I am still not sure exactly what I will do, iso 400 is probably next try as suggested above.

Any tips for focussing for shots looking up towards thy sky on cloudy days? so far all my shots have come out dark for that...as I have not gotten settings correct!

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Homey
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3/17/2009 8:40am
It sounds to me like you need to learn a few basic rules about photography.

The first rule is the sunny 16 rule.
That rule is on a sunny day at ISO 100 you can shoot a shutter speed of 1/125 @ F 16.
Then use the basic rules of photography to apply that to other shutter speeds.
Like this.

1/250 @ F 11
1/500 @ F 8
1/1000 @ F 5.6
1/2000 @ F 4
All those settings are the same amount of light hitting the film. As you can see on a sunny day 100 speed film is plenty fast enough for shooting moto.

There is no magical formulas. Digital ISO 100 is still the same as shooting ISO film.

SteveS
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3/17/2009 9:53pm
Also, any film, even the old ASA 16 Kodachrome, will look grainy if underexposed.

Kodacolor 400 properly exposed is not grainy. The 1000 films are even relatively fine grained.
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Amen to my homey Homey!
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3/20/2009 9:54am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 11:00pm
Homey wrote:
It sounds to me like you need to learn a few basic rules about photography. The first rule is the sunny 16 rule. That rule is...
It sounds to me like you need to learn a few basic rules about photography.

The first rule is the sunny 16 rule.
That rule is on a sunny day at ISO 100 you can shoot a shutter speed of 1/125 @ F 16.
Then use the basic rules of photography to apply that to other shutter speeds.
Like this.

1/250 @ F 11
1/500 @ F 8
1/1000 @ F 5.6
1/2000 @ F 4
All those settings are the same amount of light hitting the film. As you can see on a sunny day 100 speed film is plenty fast enough for shooting moto.

There is no magical formulas. Digital ISO 100 is still the same as shooting ISO film.

thanks


and yes.


I know nothing, digital or conventional...got to learn a little more!

I do get what your stating above.

Ill google some more...but doesn't F stop effect field/or i should say depth of vision?
3/21/2009 8:12pm
Just go get some Velvia 50 and shoot it at ISO 32, yes thirty two! No there's no depth of field, on a nice day you'll get 500 @ f4.0 but the colors will make you drool.
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3/26/2009 10:56pm
Sorry it's "artsy" only good picture of the day!

3/30/2009 7:02pm
Focus on Fuji Velvia 100. Do not let the ISO scare you. You can get great stop action images with it. Good color and tone.
4/29/2009 7:39am
I have some of cudbys old film cams...trying to sell em all for him...but decided to shoot a few rolls of film I found in the cases Wink

Just got to get them off to the developers, what a pain Wink

This one kit he has, mamiya rz67pro is so sick, cant wait to see the shots I took

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