2003 YZ250 Build - The Steely

slackinoff
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10/29/2015 9:23am
Got the CR all dolled up.





10/29/2015 4:06pm
Thanks for the report! Now I am coming off of a 2006 yz250, and have really been fighting the turning characteristics of the aluminum frame. I also am getting tired of the harshness of the aluminum frame, and have always liked the feel of steel better. Can you comment any on the handling capabilities of your bike with the SSS and the overall plushness provided from the steel frame?
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10/30/2015 7:32am
Thanks for the report! Now I am coming off of a 2006 yz250, and have really been fighting the turning characteristics of the aluminum frame. I...
Thanks for the report! Now I am coming off of a 2006 yz250, and have really been fighting the turning characteristics of the aluminum frame. I also am getting tired of the harshness of the aluminum frame, and have always liked the feel of steel better. Can you comment any on the handling capabilities of your bike with the SSS and the overall plushness provided from the steel frame?
Your welcome!

Can you comment any on the handling capabilities of your bike with the SSS and the overall plushness provided from the steel frame?

I can't because I just don't have any experience with an aluminum frame yz smoker. I went with the steel frame yz250 because I got a heck of deal on it. It would be really cool to try both back to back.

The biggest issue for me on this bike was the fact I had no prior experience with any 250 two strokes. Had a bunch of 125s and that new 250f for a while. I did not agree with this bike the first several rides. One, It was so much more wild than anything I had ridden before and second, I had some setup issues that were way wrong. I am still getting used to the bike and I am just now really starting to like it. The SSS was a great improvement.
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10/30/2015 7:43am
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Hey what's up Doc? I would say it depends on the type of riding you do. If I was just doing off road stuff, I think...
Hey what's up Doc?

I would say it depends on the type of riding you do. If I was just doing off road stuff, I think the 02 forks are just fine. But I will say, I do like my SSS forks even better than the OC forks off road....just slightly. The big difference for me was on the MX track with bigger jumps that pucker this novice's butt up. The pucker factor is definitely lower now.
Thanks Slackin. I'm leaning toward re-valving the stock forks. I'm 52 so I'm not huck'n any huge gaps these days, if I can just get the forks to work better in the chop I'd be happy.

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10/30/2015 8:21am
DoctorJD wrote:
Thanks Slackin. I'm leaning toward re-valving the stock forks. I'm 52 so I'm not huck'n any huge gaps these days, if I can just get the...
Thanks Slackin. I'm leaning toward re-valving the stock forks. I'm 52 so I'm not huck'n any huge gaps these days, if I can just get the forks to work better in the chop I'd be happy.
I think that's a good plan Doc. I could have been just fine with a re-valve as well. My abilities on a dirt bike are novice at best and I think the jumping issues were partly me and partly the setup.....(but, I increased the resale of the bike with the SSS maybe?? well, that's how I justified the expense anyway)

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10/30/2015 1:31pm Edited Date/Time 10/30/2015 1:33pm
I'll jump into this discussion a little bit with my findings. I consider myself a C class motocross rider, B class off-road, around 165lb without gear, and just recently have started trying to focus on suspension. I rode the bike for about a year with the stock 46mm forks. I now have three rides on my SSS forks on an '02 YZ250, as far as I know the forks have the stock springs and valving for an '06 YZ125. I never had much issue with stability on jump faces, but I was fighting headshake in high speed braking bumps with the old setup. I tried running more sag, lowering the fork tubes in the clamps, slower shock rebound, stiffer fork compression and faster rebound, everything I could try to keep the front stable in choppy bumps. Nothing helped with the headshake and cornering suffered. The original forks were freshly rebuilt and revalved with Race Tech Gold Valves, stock springs, and OEM bushings and seals.

I was concerned that I would still have headshake issues with the SSS forks because they have softer springs in them, but that hasn't been the case. I set the bike up to a much more "normal" setting for sag and fork tube height, and the headshake is all but gone. Right off the bat I could tell there was less friction in the forks. The biggest improvement aside from eliminating headshake was in cornering, I can duck to the tightest inside line with ease, and make mid-corner corrections with much more precision. I feel like I can really charge into a corner and pick and choose a line, and the bike will go there. In my mind I attribute this to the softer springs and generally plusher SSS forks. I also notice that I use more of the stroke, with the old open chamber forks I would never use the last 2-3" of travel. I attribute this to the softer springs and just being able to ride harder with the SSS forks.

Take that for what it's worth, I'm not a very good test rider but I'm trying to really pay attention to what the bike is doing and learn to make logical adjustments and notice the difference. Also note that I swapped to an Ohlins shock at the same time, so that also factors into how the bike is handling now. I have about $700 invested in this total suspension makeover (not counting resale value of the stock forks and shock) and I've been very very happy with the results.
10/31/2015 5:37am
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I'll jump into this discussion a little bit with my findings. I consider myself a C class motocross rider, B class off-road, around 165lb without gear...
I'll jump into this discussion a little bit with my findings. I consider myself a C class motocross rider, B class off-road, around 165lb without gear, and just recently have started trying to focus on suspension. I rode the bike for about a year with the stock 46mm forks. I now have three rides on my SSS forks on an '02 YZ250, as far as I know the forks have the stock springs and valving for an '06 YZ125. I never had much issue with stability on jump faces, but I was fighting headshake in high speed braking bumps with the old setup. I tried running more sag, lowering the fork tubes in the clamps, slower shock rebound, stiffer fork compression and faster rebound, everything I could try to keep the front stable in choppy bumps. Nothing helped with the headshake and cornering suffered. The original forks were freshly rebuilt and revalved with Race Tech Gold Valves, stock springs, and OEM bushings and seals.

I was concerned that I would still have headshake issues with the SSS forks because they have softer springs in them, but that hasn't been the case. I set the bike up to a much more "normal" setting for sag and fork tube height, and the headshake is all but gone. Right off the bat I could tell there was less friction in the forks. The biggest improvement aside from eliminating headshake was in cornering, I can duck to the tightest inside line with ease, and make mid-corner corrections with much more precision. I feel like I can really charge into a corner and pick and choose a line, and the bike will go there. In my mind I attribute this to the softer springs and generally plusher SSS forks. I also notice that I use more of the stroke, with the old open chamber forks I would never use the last 2-3" of travel. I attribute this to the softer springs and just being able to ride harder with the SSS forks.

Take that for what it's worth, I'm not a very good test rider but I'm trying to really pay attention to what the bike is doing and learn to make logical adjustments and notice the difference. Also note that I swapped to an Ohlins shock at the same time, so that also factors into how the bike is handling now. I have about $700 invested in this total suspension makeover (not counting resale value of the stock forks and shock) and I've been very very happy with the results.
Thanks a lot, that definitely made me feel like I am going in the right direction! Do you have any experience with the aluminum framed yz250 by any chance? I just received my 2007 yz250f forks I bough off of ebay and was blown away at how good of shape they are in. I got the forks, triple clamps, steering stem(bearings), fork gaurds, and all the bolts needed for clamps etc. for $345ish. That seems like a lot, but these forks literally look like they have been used all but 4-5 times! I also managed to buy a complete front brake assembly from the same buyer for an 07. Now all I need is a front axle bolt, some spacers, and then a bike and I'm good to goWoohoo
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10/31/2015 8:02am
I haven't ridden any aluminum frame bikes for any length of time, I rode KTMs before the YZ, so unfortunately I can't help you out there. But it sounds like you got a good deal on those forks!
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11/1/2015 1:26pm
Awesome! 345 is great. I got mine 4 310, ebay shipped for the 06 yz450f forks, triple, and guards. Took a gamble though for sure. Pics sucked. So happy they were great in person.
Anyone need 06 yz450f triples? Bearings ok on lower stem.
11/2/2015 4:25am
slackinoff wrote:
Awesome! 345 is great. I got mine 4 310, ebay shipped for the 06 yz450f forks, triple, and guards. Took a gamble though for sure. Pics...
Awesome! 345 is great. I got mine 4 310, ebay shipped for the 06 yz450f forks, triple, and guards. Took a gamble though for sure. Pics sucked. So happy they were great in person.
Anyone need 06 yz450f triples? Bearings ok on lower stem.
Everyone else wanted well over $400 when I was looking too and they all looked to be crap or just worn out. These forks also have Enzo racing stickers so their is chance it was revalved by them, but the seller was not sure if they did or not
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5/17/2017 7:33pm
slackinoff wrote:
I have been working on this project for a couple of months. Snapping pics as I go, so enjoy those as I get this thread up...
I have been working on this project for a couple of months. Snapping pics as I go, so enjoy those as I get this thread up to date.

Here is the story. I am currently 26. My best friend and I rode 80s , his dad drove us everywhere, it was awesome in one single word. Dads – those are the best times ever, even if we are a pain in the ass and are shit heads, we will remember those days with lots of love. Thank you.

We both “Hung” up the boots as they say as soon as we turned 16 and started chasing girls around. Rediscovered the sport when I was about 24. First bike back was a 02 CR125, next bike was a YZ426, then I went all out and picked up a 2014 YZ250f. Loved that bike….but I eventually realized that I don’t need that kind of money tied up in a dirtbike to enjoy the sport.

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#3 Sold today (7/16/15), happy to get out from under that debt! I will miss this bike though, superb power and handling


I don’t race much, but when I do it’s totally for fun, just like any track day. So yeah, when my buddies 2003 yz250 lost the airboot and sucked a ton of dirt in….I was waiting like a vulcher for him to sell it to me cheap. I think this is the perfect “long term play rider” bike. There is a decade of parts built up on the planet that will keep the costs low and easy to maintain for a long term.


Here we go!

I don't have many"before" of the YZ250 but this will give you a general idea of the bike. Everything was not too bad except the motor and the wheels. Which were just horrible. Motor was toast, every spoke nipple seized.



Look at that sand paste!! Ouch










I could not find my flywheel puller so I rigged up the case splitter in a way that grabbed the flywheel. Took like 5 attempts to get right.



Clutch outer cover side was really nice condition, zero wear on the basket and the gears



Got the cases split and trans out.




This was terrifying but I got it out no problem



Pulled every bearing and seal out of the cases and then sent the cases off to get vapor blasted. 65 bucks later and I am as happy as happy as the proverbial pig in shit. Will post these pics tommorrrow!!! stay tuned
i built this bike!!! it was bought from me about 2.5 yrs ago. i am building a 2nd one now cuz i never should have sold this one. the triple clamps hour meter, handlebars and brake conversion caught my eye. good luck with the refresh, looks great! if you ever decide to sell it let me know first!

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