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40 Of Weekend's Shooting Victims Had Been Arrested 672 Times
https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20160815/bronzeville/40-of-weekends-sho…
""These gun offenders don't care. They could care less if it's an 80-year-old grandmother or a 5-year-old child out there," Johnson said. And that's our fault. Because we have constantly shown that we are not going to hold them accountable."
If the victims had been arrested that many times, imagine how many times the shooters had been. Surely most of the shooters had felony records which prevent them from legally possessing a firearm. So while everyone argues for more gun control, the criminals are just laughing. They get a slap on the wrist and go back for more. Damn shame.
https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20160815/bronzeville/40-of-weekends-sho…
""These gun offenders don't care. They could care less if it's an 80-year-old grandmother or a 5-year-old child out there," Johnson said. And that's our fault. Because we have constantly shown that we are not going to hold them accountable."
If the victims had been arrested that many times, imagine how many times the shooters had been. Surely most of the shooters had felony records which prevent them from legally possessing a firearm. So while everyone argues for more gun control, the criminals are just laughing. They get a slap on the wrist and go back for more. Damn shame.
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Every time they go through the courts revolving door someone is getting paid, business is good.
People are being murdered in Chicago and areas of CA because there are violent gang cultures in these places that want to murder eachother and anyone else that gets in the way. And the response from the DOJ and other Govt officials has been to go after the police departments that are trying to actually do something about it. It seems like we are on our way to a hands off policy.
This is so clearly not a gun problem but a people problem, it is hard to even imagine, someone arguing that because they are a bunch of lunatics shooting each other, we should take away other peoples access. Very slippery slope there
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Drugs, that you seem ok with promoting the legalization of, apparently legalizing them will lower crime yet making guns illegal will lower crime?
If you don't recognize the problem you can never fix it. Figure out why other groups of people are doing just fine with their guns and figure out how to make the people who are not playing nice with their guns, become more like those that do. It is a community, socioeconomic problem. not a law problem. You can pass all the laws you want to, legalize this make illegal that, a lawless person/ or a lawless country does not care, and nothing changes. The laws are not being enforced.
The rule of law needs to be enforced. Without law enforcement, nothing really matters
Chicago has strict gun purchasing laws, but does not have strict or harsh illegal gun possession laws. Could you essentially say ok illegal gun in your possession, 5 years mandatory..yes you could, but if you are a politician trying to get re-elected in that community you look for the scapegoat,
So the gun problem is because of other areas without our gun laws, ridiculous. It is all about people taking personal responsibility for their actions, and accepting the consequences of those actions. If they taught that in public schools instead of common core we would all be a lot better off.
Stricter gun laws does not prevent criminals from getting or using them. As you said criminals do not care about gun laws, or any other laws. So the result would be restricting access to guns for law abiding citizens who might protect themselves from the crimimals. Yes ?
In the case of banning guns. The result would be a flourishing black market with a whole new world of violence to go with it.
I know that people compare the US gun homicide statistics to other countries and conclude the we are a bunch of wild west idiots running around shooting each other. But when you look at it unemotionally and with common sense and truth it turns out that's not the case. What is it 25 or 30 thousand gun deaths a year or so ? When you break it down you find that the problem is suicide and gangs that are responsible for the majority of deaths. Restricting or banning access to law abiding people isn't going to change that is it ? In fact like I said wont it provide a lucrative black market for gangs and criminals to grow and prosper ?
Deaths by guns is very small compared to so many other preventable causes of death yet Liberal Democrats have made it a priority and are hell bent on banning, limiting, regulating, access to guns including law abiding owners.
Why do you think that is ?
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-canada-toronto-crossbow-idUSKCN1102AB
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