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TailSoHard 2/29/2016 6:32am
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Was watching a review of the 16 skidoo 163' w/ 3inch lug. They commented on how much different and better the 3 inch lug was to...
Was watching a review of the 16 skidoo 163' w/ 3inch lug. They commented on how much different and better the 3 inch lug was to the 2.5-2.6 inch lug. Literally stop on the side of a hill and start going again in deep powder crazy stuff!

I remember when 136 was considered a long track not too long ago. Not many people seem like flat landers here, but why have the trail sleds gone to longer tracks? 129 looks like the standard and cat even offers some in 137 for a trail sled.

My dream would be for the triple-triple sleds to return with a complete DI system putting out 200hp in a modern chassis. Chances of actually happening zero Sad
We're all flat landers around here, so we sell nothing BUT trail sleds.

The 121" length is your standard trail length still, but most people are going to a 137" track. Not only does it help smooth out the bumps, but you also get a larger contact patch on the snow, resulting in better traction. When snowmobilers keep asking year after year for more horsepower and more torque, you need to be able to use all that power. Especially on the four-stroke sleds... They have quite a bit more torque off the line, so the longer track is absolutely necessary. Two-stroke's... not so much for the traction, but it still helps the ride.
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TailSoHard 3/1/2016 6:24am
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New Polaris sleds are out today!

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New 174" RMK

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TailSoHard wrote:
Yeah I know that, but I'm not about to start splattering it all over the internet before Yamaha gives me the OK...
Now we can talk about it...All new engine designed specifically to be turbocharged. My friend had it up over 120 mph. It's a rocket..

Thought bringing back the SRX name would have been a good idea..

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MR. X 3/1/2016 7:27pm
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Brad460 wrote:
Now we can talk about it...All new engine designed specifically to be turbocharged. My friend had it up over 120 mph. It's a rocket.. Thought bringing...
Now we can talk about it...All new engine designed specifically to be turbocharged. My friend had it up over 120 mph. It's a rocket..

Thought bringing back the SRX name would have been a good idea..
On radar or the super accurate dream o meter that yamaha are known for.
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YZ125H1 3/1/2016 11:16pm
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Saw they brought back the Thundercat which is kind of cool. Always drooled over them in the 90's. Interesting to see cat still using some Zook motors. The 800 2t and 1100 na are in the line up. Heard my17 was last year for Zook motors. Expecting a new 800 or bigger 2t from cat next year possibly to rival the new doo 850? Wasn't long ago cat had the zr900.
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TailSoHard 3/2/2016 6:08am
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Brad460 wrote:
Now we can talk about it...All new engine designed specifically to be turbocharged. My friend had it up over 120 mph. It's a rocket.. Thought bringing...
Now we can talk about it...All new engine designed specifically to be turbocharged. My friend had it up over 120 mph. It's a rocket..

Thought bringing back the SRX name would have been a good idea..
I'm wondering how it will stack up against the guys who turboed their '14-'16 Vipers. We installed turbos on a couple of our customers' Vipers and it's quicker than the A/C Turbo, so I'm anxious to get one in for a demo to see how it does.

I've been bugging my Yamaha rep about bringing back a triple 2-stroke in that new Cat chassis... I think it would sell like crazy
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Brad460 3/2/2016 6:18am
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Brad460 wrote:
Now we can talk about it...All new engine designed specifically to be turbocharged. My friend had it up over 120 mph. It's a rocket.. Thought bringing...
Now we can talk about it...All new engine designed specifically to be turbocharged. My friend had it up over 120 mph. It's a rocket..

Thought bringing back the SRX name would have been a good idea..
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On radar or the super accurate dream o meter that yamaha are known for.
This was on GPS..the Yamaha speedos were about 10% off at 100 mph. I think the Cat speedos are more accurate..

Back in the day I had a stock RX-1 doing 126.1 mph and the speedo was reading 150mph..haha
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Brad460 3/2/2016 6:28am
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Brad460 wrote:
Now we can talk about it...All new engine designed specifically to be turbocharged. My friend had it up over 120 mph. It's a rocket.. Thought bringing...
Now we can talk about it...All new engine designed specifically to be turbocharged. My friend had it up over 120 mph. It's a rocket..

Thought bringing back the SRX name would have been a good idea..
TailSoHard wrote:
I'm wondering how it will stack up against the guys who turboed their '14-'16 Vipers. We installed turbos on a couple of our customers' Vipers and...
I'm wondering how it will stack up against the guys who turboed their '14-'16 Vipers. We installed turbos on a couple of our customers' Vipers and it's quicker than the A/C Turbo, so I'm anxious to get one in for a demo to see how it does.

I've been bugging my Yamaha rep about bringing back a triple 2-stroke in that new Cat chassis... I think it would sell like crazy
I will find out about comparing to the VIper's with turbos..

I do know the Sidewinder is getting better fuel economy than the Viper's..believe it our not..under comparable conditions/riding. Obviously running hard on boost is going to suck more gas.
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2017 Yamaha Sidewinder:



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TailSoHard 3/2/2016 6:37am
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Brad460 wrote:
I will find out about comparing to the VIper's with turbos.. I do know the Sidewinder is getting better fuel economy than the Viper's..believe it our...
I will find out about comparing to the VIper's with turbos..

I do know the Sidewinder is getting better fuel economy than the Viper's..believe it our not..under comparable conditions/riding. Obviously running hard on boost is going to suck more gas.
Interesting. So if you took the turbo off, it probably has less HP than a N/A Viper? I heard that it's basically a Vector/YXZ motor, which would make sense...
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TailSoHard 3/2/2016 6:39am
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YZ125H1 wrote:
Saw they brought back the Thundercat which is kind of cool. Always drooled over them in the 90's. Interesting to see cat still using some Zook...
Saw they brought back the Thundercat which is kind of cool. Always drooled over them in the 90's. Interesting to see cat still using some Zook motors. The 800 2t and 1100 na are in the line up. Heard my17 was last year for Zook motors. Expecting a new 800 or bigger 2t from cat next year possibly to rival the new doo 850? Wasn't long ago cat had the zr900.
190 HP!!! Evil





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TailSoHard 3/2/2016 6:42am
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Ordered one of these today, should be a pre-season model so I should see it in the shop in a couple weeks



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Arctic Cat came out with a snowbike as well... The 2017 SVX450



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Brad460 wrote:
Now we can talk about it...All new engine designed specifically to be turbocharged. My friend had it up over 120 mph. It's a rocket.. Thought bringing...
Now we can talk about it...All new engine designed specifically to be turbocharged. My friend had it up over 120 mph. It's a rocket..

Thought bringing back the SRX name would have been a good idea..
TailSoHard wrote:
I'm wondering how it will stack up against the guys who turboed their '14-'16 Vipers. We installed turbos on a couple of our customers' Vipers and...
I'm wondering how it will stack up against the guys who turboed their '14-'16 Vipers. We installed turbos on a couple of our customers' Vipers and it's quicker than the A/C Turbo, so I'm anxious to get one in for a demo to see how it does.

I've been bugging my Yamaha rep about bringing back a triple 2-stroke in that new Cat chassis... I think it would sell like crazy
My source (Laughing ) tells me the Sidewinder is faster than the Viper with a turbo. Also zero turbo lag and much better fuel economy.

As mentioned before the engine is a total redesign specifically to be "turboed"...
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TailSoHard wrote:
Ordered one of these today, should be a pre-season model so I should see it in the shop in a couple weeks [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2016/03/02/126361/s1200_3_quarter.jpg[/img]
Ordered one of these today, should be a pre-season model so I should see it in the shop in a couple weeks



I had an XCR back in the day Laughing , would like to try that one out!


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three9zero 3/3/2016 9:00am
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We get to ride the new 2017 Summit 850 on in Sicamous B.C on Saturday. I'm pretty pumped to ride one after getting to see it at the dealer meeting. I'll post some pictures of my trip to keep this thread going. We also get to have a 2017 850 Summit X for the day at our shop on Monday.
I think the new sled looks killer, I really like the new tunnel/heat exchanger and beveled tunnel edge on top to make your stance more narrow on the sled, the difference is amazing when your standing on it....
I'm riding a 2016 Summit X 154 T3 this year, I'm loving the 3 inch short track.



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three9zero 3/7/2016 8:49am
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Hot off the truck, I just unloaded a 2017 @ our dealership to display for today and tonight. I can't wait to ride it on Saturday.

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Hot off the truck, I just unloaded a 2017 @ our dealership to display for today and tonight. I can't wait to ride it on Saturday.[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2016/03/07/126951/s1200_012.jpg[/img]
Hot off the truck, I just unloaded a 2017 @ our dealership to display for today and tonight. I can't wait to ride it on Saturday.

Aw you lucky bum! Do you have another Summit to compare it to? Interested mostly in the handling and weight compared to the 800 etecs. Have fun and let us know how it is!
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three9zero 3/7/2016 5:20pm
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TailSoHard wrote:
Aw you lucky bum! Do you have another Summit to compare it to? Interested mostly in the handling and weight compared to the 800 etecs. Have...
Aw you lucky bum! Do you have another Summit to compare it to? Interested mostly in the handling and weight compared to the 800 etecs. Have fun and let us know how it is!
We have a 2016 Summit X 154 T3 and a 2015 Summit X 174 as our demo sleds, we will be bringing them as well and switching back and forth.....We are going to the Carl Kuster Mountain Park in Sicamous B.C. Snow is epic deep right now.
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three9zero 3/18/2016 8:59am
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So the 2017 Summit is amazing, the throttle response/clutching and power is really impressive. I also loved the new chassis, it was very responsive and loved the be thrown around. I found the lower volume chassis/bodywork resisted "plane out" and the sled really went were I wanted it to go, no matter how steep the slope was, it would side hill and change direction with a flick of the bars/throttle. I got to ride @ Blue Lake in Sicamous B.C, and spent the day with the Carl Kuster Mountain Park crew. What an amazing experiance. These are the guys who R & D the summit for BRP, they(CKMP and BRP) have a really cool workshop located deep in the woods of "deep ass snowville". It was totally puking snow(like 12 inches during the day) so we stayed at lower elavations and off the big hills with exposure, we had to keep it to the sub alpine trees and cut lines. We did find a nice 500 ft climb that was safe and we could see(got a quick sunny window @ lunch) and did some back to back drag races with my 2016 T4 154 800 etec vs the 2017 850 154 and the newer sled easily walked on the T3 every time. The new 165 was staying with a 174 t3 with a low boost(6psi) turbo kit on the same slope too......











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peelout 3/18/2016 10:09am
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awesome three9zero!

we just got some new snow so i took the last couple days off work and went riding, had a blast playing in 2 feet of fresh powder.

i think i'm going to snow-check the 165, the black and yellow/green one is SO sick
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Our Work sleds. Skidoo Skandic, 600, and 900.




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awesome three9zero! we just got some new snow so i took the last couple days off work and went riding, had a blast playing in 2...
awesome three9zero!

we just got some new snow so i took the last couple days off work and went riding, had a blast playing in 2 feet of fresh powder.

i think i'm going to snow-check the 165, the black and yellow/green one is SO sick
Dude get one, it was awesome. I'm @ 47 snow checks so far at my shop.
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Krazyk2774 3/19/2016 9:18am
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peelout wrote:
awesome three9zero! we just got some new snow so i took the last couple days off work and went riding, had a blast playing in 2...
awesome three9zero!

we just got some new snow so i took the last couple days off work and went riding, had a blast playing in 2 feet of fresh powder.

i think i'm going to snow-check the 165, the black and yellow/green one is SO sick
I have to admit, I'm super jealous dude! Lol. I'm always drooling over the sick riding areas you got down there. I'd move down to the states in a heartbeat, if they would let me in! Haha
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Krazyk2774 3/19/2016 9:31am
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YZ125H1 wrote:
Saw they brought back the Thundercat which is kind of cool. Always drooled over them in the 90's. Interesting to see cat still using some Zook...
Saw they brought back the Thundercat which is kind of cool. Always drooled over them in the 90's. Interesting to see cat still using some Zook motors. The 800 2t and 1100 na are in the line up. Heard my17 was last year for Zook motors. Expecting a new 800 or bigger 2t from cat next year possibly to rival the new doo 850? Wasn't long ago cat had the zr900.
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190 HP!!! :evil: [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2016/03/02/126359/s1200_ZR9000Thundercat_137_Red_2017_w.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2016/03/02/126360/s1200_201603011524420.jpg[/img]
190 HP!!! Evil





That looks like a whole lot of fun!

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