Coldenhoffs contract ends with Rockstar Energy Suzuki Europe Team

RichardLoots 7/14/2015 10:31am
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mac3-d wrote:
Serious question. Is Coldenhoff a sand specialist & therefore did really well last weekend ? Bit like De Reuver
he usually does very well in sand , like most Dutch riders
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philG 7/14/2015 10:32am
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Kegums isnt a sand track, its sand over hardpack , wierd surface, gets lots of square edged bumps.
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kongols 7/14/2015 10:44am
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philG wrote:
Kegums isnt a sand track, its sand over hardpack , wierd surface, gets lots of square edged bumps.
It used to be sad, before they started mixing clay in.
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steed 2.0 7/14/2015 10:55am
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mac3-d wrote:
Serious question. Is Coldenhoff a sand specialist & therefore did really well last weekend ? Bit like De Reuver
Everyone is a sand specialist these days (Cairoli and Paulin) just to name a few and the Dutch and Belgium kids ride hardpack from an early stage (German ADAC & winter Spain) that being said,
the region he is from has it all hardpack, intermediate, sand, deep sand and even deeper sand lol
Berghem is 5 min from his home and Den Dungen 15 min

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philG 7/14/2015 12:04pm
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philG wrote:
Kegums isnt a sand track, its sand over hardpack , wierd surface, gets lots of square edged bumps.
kongols wrote:
It used to be sad, before they started mixing clay in.
same as Hawkstone, not like it used to be.

Looked a fair bit rougher than the Nations
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mx23 7/14/2015 12:05pm
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Could his contract just be ending with the rockstar energy Suzuki Europe team and him just moving up to the Suzuki world team to replace desalle? Or would that be the same contract For both teams? Seems a wired decision after the weekends result....
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kongols 7/14/2015 12:12pm
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mx23 wrote:
Could his contract just be ending with the rockstar energy Suzuki Europe team and him just moving up to the Suzuki world team to replace desalle...
Could his contract just be ending with the rockstar energy Suzuki Europe team and him just moving up to the Suzuki world team to replace desalle? Or would that be the same contract For both teams? Seems a wired decision after the weekends result....
Van Horebeek takes Desalle place.
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steed 2.0 7/14/2015 12:16pm
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mx23 wrote:
Could his contract just be ending with the rockstar energy Suzuki Europe team and him just moving up to the Suzuki world team to replace desalle...
Could his contract just be ending with the rockstar energy Suzuki Europe team and him just moving up to the Suzuki world team to replace desalle? Or would that be the same contract For both teams? Seems a wired decision after the weekends result....
Suzuki has quite a reputation MX & MotoGP in taking wired decisions read Flip Flop politics

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mx23 7/14/2015 12:20pm
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I take it strijbos is still in contract next year aswel then?
Richard Tease II 7/14/2015 3:27pm
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mac3-d wrote:
Serious question. Is Coldenhoff a sand specialist & therefore did really well last weekend ? Bit like De Reuver
The Hoff looked like a real contender in that 2nd moto he was riding under pressure the whole Moto and didn't falter. Very impressive also the track looked more like hard/sand mix and not a true sand track
Richard Tease II 7/14/2015 3:28pm
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I take it strijbos is still in contract next year aswel then?
He's in negotiations I bet he will,stay he also is in good form at the moment and his fitness seems top class. Suzukimwould be mad to let him go. I'd let Desalle go before I'd let strijbos go
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brimx153 7/14/2015 3:36pm
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the rumors i ve heard is everts and Valentin Guilod is going to suzuki . i would say there just wont be a suzuki europe team in the 450s next year , more so than them replacing the hoff
Richard Tease II 7/14/2015 3:41pm
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the rumors i ve heard is everts and Valentin Guilod is going to suzuki . i would say there just wont be a suzuki europe team...
the rumors i ve heard is everts and Valentin Guilod is going to suzuki . i would say there just wont be a suzuki europe team in the 450s next year , more so than them replacing the hoff
Makes sense unfortunately
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steed 2.0 7/14/2015 4:24pm
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brimx153 wrote:
the rumors i ve heard is everts and Valentin Guilod is going to suzuki . i would say there just wont be a suzuki europe team...
the rumors i ve heard is everts and Valentin Guilod is going to suzuki . i would say there just wont be a suzuki europe team in the 450s next year , more so than them replacing the hoff
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Makes sense unfortunately
Everts and Demaria interesting if everything will work out in the long run
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mjskier 7/14/2015 5:27pm
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Crisp BRAAAP! wrote:
It was mentioned somewhere that the ride was likely an FU to them for the breakup. I think he found out at the beginning of the...
It was mentioned somewhere that the ride was likely an FU to them for the breakup. I think he found out at the beginning of the weekend.
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Makes sense. A pissed off rider with something to prove is usually a good one.
Which always begs the question: Why don't they ride pissed off the rest of the year?
The US too has its share of riders who only seems to be interested in stepping it up close to contract time...
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Crisp BRAAAP! wrote:
It was mentioned somewhere that the ride was likely an FU to them for the breakup. I think he found out at the beginning of the...
It was mentioned somewhere that the ride was likely an FU to them for the breakup. I think he found out at the beginning of the weekend.
Gringoe wrote:
Makes sense. A pissed off rider with something to prove is usually a good one.
mjskier wrote:
Which always begs the question: Why don't they ride pissed off the rest of the year? The US too has its share of riders who only...
Which always begs the question: Why don't they ride pissed off the rest of the year?
The US too has its share of riders who only seems to be interested in stepping it up close to contract time...
let me get the facts straight, Coldenhoff is far from that FU type of guy Suzuki Europe is their MX2 program basically
he signed a two year deal one year MX2 and one year MXGP on a leftover / previous year (2014) factory bike
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Gringoe 7/14/2015 10:41pm
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steed 2.0 wrote:
Suzuki has quite a reputation MX & MotoGP in taking wired decisions read Flip Flop politics

That was cool to watch. Thanks
RichardLoots 7/15/2015 12:51am
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Gringoe wrote:
Makes sense. A pissed off rider with something to prove is usually a good one.
mjskier wrote:
Which always begs the question: Why don't they ride pissed off the rest of the year? The US too has its share of riders who only...
Which always begs the question: Why don't they ride pissed off the rest of the year?
The US too has its share of riders who only seems to be interested in stepping it up close to contract time...
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let me get the facts straight, Coldenhoff is far from that FU type of guy Suzuki Europe is their MX2 program basically he signed a two...
let me get the facts straight, Coldenhoff is far from that FU type of guy Suzuki Europe is their MX2 program basically
he signed a two year deal one year MX2 and one year MXGP on a leftover / previous year (2014) factory bike
yeah he doesnt have the same bike as Desalle and Strijbos , you would expect after Desalle's injury he would get a factory bike but they didnt ...weird .. you would think they provide him with the best possible bike for Suzuki when Desalle was out...

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RG1 7/15/2015 1:00am
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I'm sure Coldenhoff will find himself a ride, I've been impressed with him this year. It's interesting that the Desalle to Kawi rumours are building momentum, I thought he'd be a Suzuki boy forever. Be interesting to see who replaces him, the favourites seem to be Van Horebeek and Guillod, but at Maggiora everyone seemed to think that those 2 would be riding in a 3 man team at Rinaldi Yamaha next year alongside Romain Febvre. Silly season in full swing
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mx23 wrote:
Could his contract just be ending with the rockstar energy Suzuki Europe team and him just moving up to the Suzuki world team to replace desalle...
Could his contract just be ending with the rockstar energy Suzuki Europe team and him just moving up to the Suzuki world team to replace desalle? Or would that be the same contract For both teams? Seems a wired decision after the weekends result....
kongols wrote:
Van Horebeek takes Desalle place.
No, he doesn't. Van Horebeek stays with Rinaldi Yamaha...
RichardLoots 7/15/2015 3:11am
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mx23 wrote:
Could his contract just be ending with the rockstar energy Suzuki Europe team and him just moving up to the Suzuki world team to replace desalle...
Could his contract just be ending with the rockstar energy Suzuki Europe team and him just moving up to the Suzuki world team to replace desalle? Or would that be the same contract For both teams? Seems a wired decision after the weekends result....
kongols wrote:
Van Horebeek takes Desalle place.
CalimeroFan wrote:
No, he doesn't. Van Horebeek stays with Rinaldi Yamaha...
more info ? as there are a lot of people saying he wont stay at Yamaha ..havent seen any confirmation he would stay at Yamaha for 2016
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kongols wrote:
Van Horebeek takes Desalle place.
CalimeroFan wrote:
No, he doesn't. Van Horebeek stays with Rinaldi Yamaha...
RichardLoots wrote:
more info ? as there are a lot of people saying he wont stay at Yamaha ..havent seen any confirmation he would stay at Yamaha for...
more info ? as there are a lot of people saying he wont stay at Yamaha ..havent seen any confirmation he would stay at Yamaha for 2016
Everyone I spoke to at Maggiora said they'd heard that Febvre, Van Horebeek and Guillod will all be at Rinaldi Yamaha next year. It seemed pretty common knowledge even amongst us fans
RichardLoots 7/15/2015 3:55am
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i heard Marc de Reuver saying on sunday , van Horebeek could move to Suzuki and he wasnt the only one who mentioned it the last weeks ... lets see what happens Smile lot of rumours ... havents seen any confirmation
same as Everts taking over Suzuki Geboers , he has a contract with KTM up to 2016
at Maggiora was weeks ago , RV retired ... so Desalle option for KRT , Suzuki in need for other rider ... ???
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Olson 7/15/2015 4:09am
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There's not that many options if they want to stay with only Belgian riders.
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Olson wrote:
There's not that many options if they want to stay with only Belgian riders.
Don't really understand where that "only Belgian riders" vision comes from. It just narrows your chances of reeling in a title. Like twelve years ago the Suzuki riders were Pichon and Coppins, wich turned out very good. From then on they had guys like Smets, Strijbos (twice), Ramon (only one who got a title), De Dycker and Desalle. Only Tanel Leok was a foreign rider the last couple of years, because he brought money.

I would've signed (or at least considered) guys like Nagl, Townley, Barragan, Philippaerts, De Reuver, one of the Pourcels, Frossard etc. a lot earlier when they were in their prime. Well, Nagl still is. What's wrong with a good foreign motocrosser?
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Motofinne 7/15/2015 4:23am
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But what about Van Horebeek? He hasn't been close to what he was last year, is there a particular reason for this?
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Olson 7/15/2015 4:31am
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But what about Van Horebeek? He hasn't been close to what he was last year, is there a particular reason for this?
Injuries. Broke his ankle in Argentina or Mexico last year and been struggling a bit. Reinjured his foot in April and sat out Valkenswaard.
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Olson 7/15/2015 4:35am
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Olson wrote:
There's not that many options if they want to stay with only Belgian riders.
DeStouwer wrote:
Don't really understand where that "only Belgian riders" vision comes from. It just narrows your chances of reeling in a title. Like twelve years ago the...
Don't really understand where that "only Belgian riders" vision comes from. It just narrows your chances of reeling in a title. Like twelve years ago the Suzuki riders were Pichon and Coppins, wich turned out very good. From then on they had guys like Smets, Strijbos (twice), Ramon (only one who got a title), De Dycker and Desalle. Only Tanel Leok was a foreign rider the last couple of years, because he brought money.

I would've signed (or at least considered) guys like Nagl, Townley, Barragan, Philippaerts, De Reuver, one of the Pourcels, Frossard etc. a lot earlier when they were in their prime. Well, Nagl still is. What's wrong with a good foreign motocrosser?
Communication possibly. Don't see the reason for it really. Solid team with great resources. Signing anyone outside of Belgium shouldn't be a problem. Might as well just be a coincidence that they have ended up with Belgian riders. Time will tell. I do have a feeling Van Horebeek will stick around with Yamaha.
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steed 2.0 7/15/2015 8:59am
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RichardLoots wrote:
http://fr.motocrossmag.be/index.php/2015/07/strijbos-desalle-everts-smets-geboers-le-point-sur-la-situation-chez-suzuki/ here it says , when Everts would be the new team manager he wants van Horebeek , Guillod or Shaun Simpson so looks like it...
http://fr.motocrossmag.be/index.php/2015/07/strijbos-desalle-everts-sme…

here it says , when Everts would be the new team manager he wants van Horebeek , Guillod or Shaun Simpson
so looks like it all comes down to who will be in charge next year Wink
Just silly speculation on my part, who is the best possible wingman for 222?

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