Only RC and JS7 have more overalls than Dunge.

Titan1
Posts
9477
Joined
2/3/2010
Location
Lehi, UT, USA
6/8/2015 9:25am
dice78 wrote:
I really like dungey..but he is one of the luckiest racers ever.when he wins a title with a full field then you can talk legend. he...
I really like dungey..but he is one of the luckiest racers ever.when he wins a title with a full field then you can talk legend. he got beat by over 60sec 7sec slower than tomac kr94 came in hurt tc41 out js7 out and now et3 out
What does that even mean? "when he wins a title with a full field then you can talk legend"???

Should we not hold races unless everyone is healthy? And if one rider gets hurt mid-season, we postpone races until that rider heals up so that that the championship is decided "with a full field"???

Staying healthy is just as much a part of a championship as corner speed, whoop speed and bike set up. Some riders have more corner speed than others, some riders are faster in the whoops, some can set up a bike better than others, and some are better at staying healthy than others. The guy that wins the championship is best at all of those things.

Those riders you mentioned (Villopoto, Stewart, Tomac) need to learn to manage their health better and stay off the ground if they want to beat Dungey.

how many series have those riders crashed out of? How many has Dungey crashed out of? (One SX season his entire pro career-the collarbone where he missed a few races).

And if Dungey didn't run out of gas in Texas, have that electrical problem at Southwick, and have his chain derail at that one supercross...his legacy compared to Villopoto's would look DRASTICALLY different.

And what is a full field? Last I checked, the gates have been full for every main event/moto...that's a full field to me.

Osaka627
Posts
316
Joined
4/1/2008
Location
Milton, WA, USA
6/8/2015 6:39pm
I guess if we're talking luck now. You could call RC lucky that his biggest competition in outdoors was Tim Ferry there for a while.....
Sully
Posts
9598
Joined
8/24/2006
Location
JP
6/8/2015 6:56pm
When the dust settles, and I think of Dungey, it'll be suicide hand shifting a 450 over a triple at a circus race.
I would add Southwick 2011 to that. Almost a full lap down and he came back to 7th on one of the toughest tracks in America – oh, and against a "full field," too. The guy will go down as a legend, no matter what his detractors say.
Outsider
Posts
10628
Joined
1/29/2009
Location
Huntington Beach, CA, USA
6/8/2015 6:58pm
When the dust settles, and I think of Dungey, it'll be suicide hand shifting a 450 over a triple at a circus race.
Sully wrote:
I would add Southwick 2011 to that. Almost a full lap down and he came back to 7th on one of the toughest tracks in America...
I would add Southwick 2011 to that. Almost a full lap down and he came back to 7th on one of the toughest tracks in America – oh, and against a "full field," too. The guy will go down as a legend, no matter what his detractors say.
I'll be thinking of him taking 10 laps to pass , frustrating as hell

The Shop

Sully
Posts
9598
Joined
8/24/2006
Location
JP
6/8/2015 7:02pm
When the dust settles, and I think of Dungey, it'll be suicide hand shifting a 450 over a triple at a circus race.
Sully wrote:
I would add Southwick 2011 to that. Almost a full lap down and he came back to 7th on one of the toughest tracks in America...
I would add Southwick 2011 to that. Almost a full lap down and he came back to 7th on one of the toughest tracks in America – oh, and against a "full field," too. The guy will go down as a legend, no matter what his detractors say.
Outsider wrote:
I'll be thinking of him taking 10 laps to pass , frustrating as hell
You're an asset to this site, do you know that? Your contributions go above and beyond...
Outsider
Posts
10628
Joined
1/29/2009
Location
Huntington Beach, CA, USA
6/8/2015 7:10pm
Sully wrote:
You're an asset to this site, do you know that? Your contributions go above and beyond...
So, would it be better if we all just just joined hands and sang ?
Huevos
Posts
925
Joined
3/19/2013
Location
Spokane, WA, USA
6/8/2015 7:19pm
Sully wrote:
You're an asset to this site, do you know that? Your contributions go above and beyond...
Outsider wrote:
So, would it be better if we all just just joined hands and sang ?
You like to do that when we're talking about RV...
Outsider
Posts
10628
Joined
1/29/2009
Location
Huntington Beach, CA, USA
6/8/2015 7:28pm
Huevos wrote:
You like to do that when we're talking about RV...
Geez dude, how's that dictate?
Sully
Posts
9598
Joined
8/24/2006
Location
JP
6/8/2015 7:40pm Edited Date/Time 6/8/2015 7:41pm
Sully wrote:
You're an asset to this site, do you know that? Your contributions go above and beyond...
Outsider wrote:
So, would it be better if we all just just joined hands and sang ?
No, it would be better if people actually understood that it's possible for there to be more than one great racer on the track. You claim to not like the Dungey "nut huggers," but every time you post, you take swipes at Dungey. Seems pretty stupid to me, but hey, I'm more a fan of the sport rather than one particular rider. If shitting on a guy who will go down as a legend in this sport makes you feel better about your life, then go on with your bad self.
GIwasB4
Posts
2584
Joined
7/24/2008
Location
Beverly Hills, CA, USA
6/8/2015 7:49pm
dice78 wrote:
I really like dungey..but he is one of the luckiest racers ever.when he wins a title with a full field then you can talk legend. he...
I really like dungey..but he is one of the luckiest racers ever.when he wins a title with a full field then you can talk legend. he got beat by over 60sec 7sec slower than tomac kr94 came in hurt tc41 out js7 out and now et3 out
fidiot wrote:
If we are going to play that game, lets complete the list:

McGrath
Carmichael
Emig
Hannah
Johnson
Bradshaw
etc
etc
etc
McGrath
Total AMA Career Wins: 89

250cc AMA Supercross wins: 72

125cc Western Region SX wins: 13

250cc AMA National Motocross wins: 15

125cc AMA National Motocross wins: 2

RC
Total career AMA wins

26 Wins in 125/250 AMA Motocross 8-1997 8-1998 9-1999 1-2001
48 Wins in 250/450 AMA Supercross 1-2000 14-2001 11-2002 7-2003 7-2005 6-2006 2-2007
76 Wins in 250/450 AMA Motocross 9-2000 7-2001 12-2002 9-2003 12-2004 12-2005 9-2006 6-2007
150 Wins in AMA SX/MX 8-1997 8-1998 9-1999 10-2000 22-2001 23-2002 12-2004 19-2005 15-2006 8-2007

Fro
Total Career AMA Wins

13 Wins in 125/250 AMA Motocross 6-1992 5-1993 2-1994
7 Wins in 250/450 AMA Supercross 1-1995 1-1996 5-1997
16 Wins in 250/450 AMA Motocross 1-1995 4-1996 7-1997 4-1998
36 Total AMA Wins 6-1992 5-1993 2-1994 2-1995 5-1996 12-1997 4-1998
Has won his class in the Motocross of Nations on every displacement 125,250 and 500

Hurricane
Career Highlights[1]

1976 125cc National Champion
1977 250cc Supercross Champion
1978 250cc Supercross Champion
1978 250cc National Champion
1978 Trans-AMA Champion
1979 250cc Supercross Champion
1979 250cc National Champion
1987 Motocross des Nations Champion

Johnson
1986 AMA 250 and Supercross
1987 AMA 250 and 500
1988 AMA 500 and Supercross

Bradshaw
The “Beast From the East" had everything. He had the baddest bikes in the amateur nationals (multiple at that), full factory Yamaha backing, and looking back he was probably getting paid big bucks by the factory to race the big amateur nationals. He was the first person I remember to have a butt patch on an 80cc. It read “Public Enemy #1,” which struck fear in the eyes of anyone who dared line up against him. He was signed at just sixteen years of age to a full factory contract. The 1989 125cc East Region Supercross title was Bradshaw's only title. It was his first season as a pro and many expected it from him, and later on expected more. When the disappointment of expecting to win then doesn't happen over and over, it starts to take a toll on your mind. No one before Bradshaw had ever been groomed for superstardom more than he. After two comebacks Damon was done for good. He wasn’t exactly one that could have been, but was definitely one that many thought could have been more.


Outsider
Posts
10628
Joined
1/29/2009
Location
Huntington Beach, CA, USA
6/8/2015 7:49pm Edited Date/Time 6/8/2015 7:53pm
Sully wrote:
No, it would be better if people actually understood that it's possible for there to be more than one great racer on the track. You claim...
No, it would be better if people actually understood that it's possible for there to be more than one great racer on the track. You claim to not like the Dungey "nut huggers," but every time you post, you take swipes at Dungey. Seems pretty stupid to me, but hey, I'm more a fan of the sport rather than one particular rider. If shitting on a guy who will go down as a legend in this sport makes you feel better about your life, then go on with your bad self.
Oh Jeez, dude.

You've never seen guys flat out saying I hate RV on this board? RD is awesome, I just don't care for his style... it's that simple. I don't hate the guy but just can't get all excited about his wins either.

Diversity is what makes this place go.. so, I'm not an RD fan, lets fight about it Wink

edit: you live in Japan?
Sully
Posts
9598
Joined
8/24/2006
Location
JP
6/8/2015 7:54pm
Sully wrote:
No, it would be better if people actually understood that it's possible for there to be more than one great racer on the track. You claim...
No, it would be better if people actually understood that it's possible for there to be more than one great racer on the track. You claim to not like the Dungey "nut huggers," but every time you post, you take swipes at Dungey. Seems pretty stupid to me, but hey, I'm more a fan of the sport rather than one particular rider. If shitting on a guy who will go down as a legend in this sport makes you feel better about your life, then go on with your bad self.
Outsider wrote:
Oh Jeez, dude. You've never seen guys flat out saying I hate RV on this board? RD is awesome, I just don't care for his style...
Oh Jeez, dude.

You've never seen guys flat out saying I hate RV on this board? RD is awesome, I just don't care for his style... it's that simple. I don't hate the guy but just can't get all excited about his wins either.

Diversity is what makes this place go.. so, I'm not an RD fan, lets fight about it Wink

edit: you live in Japan?
Fair enough, let's meet on the playground after school and settle it like men!

To your edit: Yeah, I've been here just shy of 20 years.
GIwasB4
Posts
2584
Joined
7/24/2008
Location
Beverly Hills, CA, USA
6/8/2015 7:56pm
McGrath is the KING. Ask Big Lenny, or wait until next year.
Outsider
Posts
10628
Joined
1/29/2009
Location
Huntington Beach, CA, USA
6/8/2015 7:56pm
Sully wrote:
Fair enough, let's meet on the playground after school and settle it like men!

To your edit: Yeah, I've been here just shy of 20 years.
That's cool, I assume you're a white guy? For work? Love to go there
Sully
Posts
9598
Joined
8/24/2006
Location
JP
6/8/2015 8:03pm
Outsider wrote:
That's cool, I assume you're a white guy? For work? Love to go there
As white as they come.

Came here as an active duty Sailor in '96, met my now ex-wife and decided to stick around. Now that I'm not married, though, there's really no reason for me to be here, so I've been looking for a new job stateside lately.
Outsider
Posts
10628
Joined
1/29/2009
Location
Huntington Beach, CA, USA
6/8/2015 8:11pm
Sully wrote:
As white as they come. Came here as an active duty Sailor in '96, met my now ex-wife and decided to stick around. Now that I'm...
As white as they come.

Came here as an active duty Sailor in '96, met my now ex-wife and decided to stick around. Now that I'm not married, though, there's really no reason for me to be here, so I've been looking for a new job stateside lately.
Cool!

Do you like it there though? Probably should PM for this just curious
Osaka627
Posts
316
Joined
4/1/2008
Location
Milton, WA, USA
6/8/2015 8:28pm Edited Date/Time 6/8/2015 8:29pm
There is really no reason to not like Dungey. The guy could be on a Wheaties Box. But it's almost universally agreed upon that he's boring. He's calculated, and does what is necessary to win the war not the fight. Resulting in the success and overall achievement of good representation of his personal brand and sponsors. He's a NikI Lauda type guy. I'm from Seattle I like to relate to him as a Boeing type guy.
Outsider
Posts
10628
Joined
1/29/2009
Location
Huntington Beach, CA, USA
6/8/2015 8:34pm
Osaka627 wrote:
There is really no reason to not like Dungey. The guy could be on a Wheaties Box. But it's almost universally agreed upon that he's boring...
There is really no reason to not like Dungey. The guy could be on a Wheaties Box. But it's almost universally agreed upon that he's boring. He's calculated, and does what is necessary to win the war not the fight. Resulting in the success and overall achievement of good representation of his personal brand and sponsors. He's a NikI Lauda type guy. I'm from Seattle I like to relate to him as a Boeing type guy.
I don't think anyone doesn't like RD, but when he can barely pass Seely, are we supposed to get pumped on it?
6/8/2015 8:58pm
Osaka627 wrote:
I guess if we're talking luck now. You could call RC lucky that his biggest competition in outdoors was Tim Ferry there for a while.....
Go look up who JS7's competition was when he went 24-0. Not much else for competition then either.
Huevos
Posts
925
Joined
3/19/2013
Location
Spokane, WA, USA
6/8/2015 9:53pm
Huevos wrote:
You like to do that when we're talking about RV...
Outsider wrote:
Geez dude, how's that dictate?
Pot, meet kettle.
Huevos
Posts
925
Joined
3/19/2013
Location
Spokane, WA, USA
6/8/2015 9:55pm Edited Date/Time 6/8/2015 9:56pm
Osaka627 wrote:
There is really no reason to not like Dungey. The guy could be on a Wheaties Box. But it's almost universally agreed upon that he's boring...
There is really no reason to not like Dungey. The guy could be on a Wheaties Box. But it's almost universally agreed upon that he's boring. He's calculated, and does what is necessary to win the war not the fight. Resulting in the success and overall achievement of good representation of his personal brand and sponsors. He's a NikI Lauda type guy. I'm from Seattle I like to relate to him as a Boeing type guy.
Outsider wrote:
I don't think anyone doesn't like RD, but when he can barely pass Seely, are we supposed to get pumped on it?
How did he "barely" pass Seely? He passed him 10 minutes into the moto for 2nd after coming from 12th on the first lap, and gapped him immediately.
bd
Posts
6056
Joined
4/6/2007
Location
Las Vegas, NV, USA
6/8/2015 10:30pm
You have to be in the game to win the game.....

Was db lucky in 1983 250 MX? Bob Hannah was fucking kicking ass

Was Wardy lucky in 1987 when RJ crashed in Anaheim SX and MI SX? RJ was unbeatable

Was Stanton lucky in 1989-1990 when RJ broke his wrist? RJ would of been the favorite to win titles to at least 1991 had he not destroyed his wrist.

Was Statnon lucky in 1992 when Bradshaw had a meltdown at Vegas, IN, and LA?

Was Emig lucky in 1997 when MC went to Zook and Zook's bikes were not up to par?

Was Reedy lucky in 2003 when RC blew out his knee?

Was Donnie Hansen lucky in 1982 when RJ blew out his wheel?

None of these champions were lucky...... you are a fucking beast when you win a title! No need to marginalize Dungey.
6/8/2015 11:59pm
500guy wrote:
Some call it "dropping the Mic" Some say looped out and quit.
Outsider wrote:
Nah, I think when you win 4 in a row and then walk away it's called dropping the mike... nice try thoughWink
Osaka627 wrote:
I concur... What I don't concur with is the fact at the end of the day. If we speak simply by records RV will be remembered...
I concur... What I don't concur with is the fact at the end of the day. If we speak simply by records RV will be remembered as a better SX rider than MX Rider

and better than JS7 at both. Which I don't think is simply true...

Js7 was better rider
Rv better racer
Rd is like a Boeing Union laborer. Does as required no more no less.

Time will be the test
Could not agree more. I think numbers dont really tell the tail sometimes. If u could put a number on excitment and inticipation, stewart would be a holeshot above the rest.

Post a reply to: Only RC and JS7 have more overalls than Dunge.

The Latest