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RY4N37 2/19/2015 5:39pm
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I don't see it that way. And you guys talk about the 18 different GP winners, but what does that even matter. Just because someone won...
I don't see it that way. And you guys talk about the 18 different GP winners, but what does that even matter. Just because someone won a race years ago doesn't mean they are going to be battling with RV. More former race winner doesn't always indicate a super stacked field. In reality there are four guys who can win a race outright and another four or so who can win if they get lucky and or if the other guys crash/get injured. I predict RV is going to be able to cut through the pack like he always has
It matters because a lot of the guys that have won GP's or been on the podium are still pretty young and are still capable of moto wins and podiums. If you're racing somewhere like Arco Di Trento or Uddevalla for example, which are really slick and pretty narrow, it's really hard to pass, especially when you're up against that many top guys. If you concede that much track position at the start of the moto, the guy at the front is gonna be gone.
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Skippie 2/19/2015 5:45pm
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Ripper02 wrote:
I don't see it that way. And you guys talk about the 18 different GP winners, but what does that even matter. Just because someone won...
I don't see it that way. And you guys talk about the 18 different GP winners, but what does that even matter. Just because someone won a race years ago doesn't mean they are going to be battling with RV. More former race winner doesn't always indicate a super stacked field. In reality there are four guys who can win a race outright and another four or so who can win if they get lucky and or if the other guys crash/get injured. I predict RV is going to be able to cut through the pack like he always has
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It matters because a lot of the guys that have won GP's or been on the podium are still pretty young and are still capable of...
It matters because a lot of the guys that have won GP's or been on the podium are still pretty young and are still capable of moto wins and podiums. If you're racing somewhere like Arco Di Trento or Uddevalla for example, which are really slick and pretty narrow, it's really hard to pass, especially when you're up against that many top guys. If you concede that much track position at the start of the moto, the guy at the front is gonna be gone.
And you think the US is any different?
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struth 2/19/2015 5:45pm
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Name the 18 different motor winners.
There only 5 or 6 Gp guys that RV will have some trouble passing, theRest will be fairly easy(insept maybe on sand tracks),
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RY4N37 2/19/2015 6:03pm
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And you think the US is any different?
I think there will be a couple of tracks where RV finds it a lot more difficult to pass than anywhere in America. Like I said places like Arco it's pretty narrow, rocky and slick. Overtaking is very difficult, it's not impossible to pull through to a top 5 or 3, but on some tracks if you give up that much track position the leader is going to be gone.

Having said that, as I said in my original post, we've also seen this season in SX that guys are finding it difficult to pull through in the 450 class after getting a bad start because there's that many top guys in it, there is no-one that is easy to pass.

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Ripper02 2/19/2015 6:06pm
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Skippie wrote:
And you think the US is any different?
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I think there will be a couple of tracks where RV finds it a lot more difficult to pass than anywhere in America. Like I said...
I think there will be a couple of tracks where RV finds it a lot more difficult to pass than anywhere in America. Like I said places like Arco it's pretty narrow, rocky and slick. Overtaking is very difficult, it's not impossible to pull through to a top 5 or 3, but on some tracks if you give up that much track position the leader is going to be gone.

Having said that, as I said in my original post, we've also seen this season in SX that guys are finding it difficult to pull through in the 450 class after getting a bad start because there's that many top guys in it, there is no-one that is easy to pass.
No one is coming through the pack in SX because the only two guys that can do it are either suspended or racing the GP's.
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Skippie 2/19/2015 6:12pm
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Ripper02 wrote:
No one is coming through the pack in SX because the only two guys that can do it are either suspended or racing the GP's.
That has to be one of the dumber things I've read in my time here.
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Ripper02 2/19/2015 6:15pm
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No one is coming through the pack in SX because the only two guys that can do it are either suspended or racing the GP's.
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That has to be one of the dumber things I've read in my time here.
You serious? no one can rip through the pack like James and RV can.
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RY4N37 2/19/2015 6:17pm
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No one is coming through the pack in SX because the only two guys that can do it are either suspended or racing the GP's.
Not sure I agree with that
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Ripper02 2/19/2015 6:21pm
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Ripper02 wrote:
No one is coming through the pack in SX because the only two guys that can do it are either suspended or racing the GP's.
RY4N37 wrote:
Not sure I agree with that
Bubba and RV have been the only guys in the last few years that have been able to start outta the top ten and slice there way to the top 3 before you know it.
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Skippie 2/19/2015 6:24pm
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Ripper02 wrote:
No one is coming through the pack in SX because the only two guys that can do it are either suspended or racing the GP's.
Skippie wrote:
That has to be one of the dumber things I've read in my time here.
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You serious? no one can rip through the pack like James and RV can.
Roczen, Canard, and Tomac have all made runs from the back of pack to the front this year.
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RY4N37 2/19/2015 6:28pm
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Bubba and RV have been the only guys in the last few years that have been able to start outta the top ten and slice there...
Bubba and RV have been the only guys in the last few years that have been able to start outta the top ten and slice there way to the top 3 before you know it.
Doesn't mean that they are the only guys now. I think they'd have a real hard time doing the same this season
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struth 2/19/2015 6:33pm
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Didn't reed pass like 6 guys, think js was the last guy of the pack he passed for the win last year.
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Ripper02 2/19/2015 6:35pm
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Skippie wrote:
That has to be one of the dumber things I've read in my time here.
Ripper02 wrote:
You serious? no one can rip through the pack like James and RV can.
Skippie wrote:
Roczen, Canard, and Tomac have all made runs from the back of pack to the front this year.
Tomacs 7th to 3rd, Treys 17th to 9th, and Roczens 22nd to 16th doesn't compare to what Bubba and RV can do
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Ripper02 2/19/2015 6:40pm
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Skippie wrote:
That has to be one of the dumber things I've read in my time here.
Ripper02 wrote:
You serious? no one can rip through the pack like James and RV can.
Skippie wrote:
Roczen, Canard, and Tomac have all made runs from the back of pack to the front this year.
Sorry trey did come from a bad start to win so I'll give you that one
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struth 2/19/2015 6:41pm
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Ripper02 wrote:
You serious? no one can rip through the pack like James and RV can.
Skippie wrote:
Roczen, Canard, and Tomac have all made runs from the back of pack to the front this year.
Ripper02 wrote:
Tomacs 7th to 3rd, Treys 17th to 9th, and Roczens 22nd to 16th doesn't compare to what Bubba and RV can do
Are you using the race thay k-rock crashed in n got a black eye in n smashed his face in as part of your argument.k-rock22 to 16
Lol
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Skippie 2/19/2015 6:45pm
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Ripper02 wrote:
Tomacs 7th to 3rd, Treys 17th to 9th, and Roczens 22nd to 16th doesn't compare to what Bubba and RV can do
Considering Roczen was down for a good minute before getting back on the bike I'd say that's pretty impressive. It was a few years ago but remember Dungey's run at southwick? I'd say he proved to be pretty good at cutting through the pack.

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