Abe Lincoln's thoughts on redistribution

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You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich.
You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.
You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.
You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down.
You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred.
You cannot build character and courage by taking away people' s initiative and independence.
You cannot help people permanently by doing for them, what they could and should do for themselves.

.....Abraham Lincoln


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`ol Ger 10/30/2008 2:30pm
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Abe was infinitely smarter than modern llberals. Thanks for the quotes.
yamaharider4life01 10/30/2008 2:32pm
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Abe didn't say those things...some Reverend did...They are 100% true...but Abe didn't say them..

Already been hashed out here...

But whomever said them, is 100% correct.
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sc961 10/30/2008 2:45pm
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Anyone hear the FDR speech from that era about what the people are entitled too?

Very close to the words of today. I wonder if this time around things will work out differently.
No Spin Zone 10/30/2008 2:52pm
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`ol Ger wrote:
Abe was infinitely smarter than modern llberals. Thanks for the quotes.
There's no way Abe said that because he's responsible for the first federal income tax, which was something like 3% on the top 10% of earners only.

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shiftkidzma 10/30/2008 3:03pm
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"America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves".

Abe Lincoln
No Spin Zone 10/30/2008 3:08pm
10/30/2008 3:08pm
shiftkidzma wrote:
"America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves".

Abe Lincoln
That's a great quote from a man who suspended habeas corpus for a while during his tenure as president.
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"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set," he said Wednesday. "We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."

Barack Obama

No Spin Zone 10/30/2008 3:14pm
10/30/2008 3:14pm
CR250Rider wrote:
"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set," he said Wednesday. "We've got to...
"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set," he said Wednesday. "We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."

Barack Obama

The best part is that you don't realize how stupid you're making yourself look the longer you cling to that.
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aminkman 10/30/2008 3:17pm
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WhipMeister wrote:
You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich. You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift...
You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich.
You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.
You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.
You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down.
You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred.
You cannot build character and courage by taking away people' s initiative and independence.
You cannot help people permanently by doing for them, what they could and should do for themselves.

.....Abraham Lincoln


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flarider 10/30/2008 3:20pm
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and another one falls for a chain email again.....
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CR250Rider wrote:
"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set," he said Wednesday. "We've got to...
"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set," he said Wednesday. "We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."

Barack Obama

No Spin Zone wrote:
The best part is that you don't realize how stupid you're making yourself look the longer you cling to that.
you can't handle the truth..your boy is a Facist.
yamaharider4life01 10/30/2008 3:22pm
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flarider wrote:
and another one falls for a chain email again.....
Abe may not have said them...but they are still 100% true.
No Spin Zone 10/30/2008 3:24pm
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flarider wrote:
and another one falls for a chain email again.....
yamaharider4life01 wrote:
Abe may not have said them...but they are still 100% true.
If those quotes could stand on their own, they wouldn't need to be attributed to Abe Lincoln to have credibility.
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shiftkidzma 10/30/2008 4:57pm
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shiftkidzma wrote:
"America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves".

Abe Lincoln
No Spin Zone wrote:
That's a great quote from a man who suspended habeas corpus for a while during his tenure as president.
The right of writs of habeas corpus are granted in Article I, Section 9, clause 2 of the Constitution, which states, "The Privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it."
No Spin Zone 10/30/2008 5:19pm
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shiftkidzma wrote:
"America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves".

Abe Lincoln
No Spin Zone wrote:
That's a great quote from a man who suspended habeas corpus for a while during his tenure as president.
shiftkidzma wrote:
The right of writs of habeas corpus are granted in Article I, Section 9, clause 2 of the Constitution, which states, "The Privilege of the Writ...
The right of writs of habeas corpus are granted in Article I, Section 9, clause 2 of the Constitution, which states, "The Privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it."
I know that, but that doesn't mean he didn't take away freedoms. He did.
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WORCSRacer 10/30/2008 5:54pm
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No Spin Zone wrote:
That's a great quote from a man who suspended habeas corpus for a while during his tenure as president.
shiftkidzma wrote:
The right of writs of habeas corpus are granted in Article I, Section 9, clause 2 of the Constitution, which states, "The Privilege of the Writ...
The right of writs of habeas corpus are granted in Article I, Section 9, clause 2 of the Constitution, which states, "The Privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it."
No Spin Zone wrote:
I know that, but that doesn't mean he didn't take away freedoms. He did.
well there was that pesky matter of the civil war he was dealing with at the time....
No Spin Zone 10/30/2008 5:54pm
10/30/2008 5:54pm
shiftkidzma wrote:
The right of writs of habeas corpus are granted in Article I, Section 9, clause 2 of the Constitution, which states, "The Privilege of the Writ...
The right of writs of habeas corpus are granted in Article I, Section 9, clause 2 of the Constitution, which states, "The Privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it."
No Spin Zone wrote:
I know that, but that doesn't mean he didn't take away freedoms. He did.
WORCSRacer wrote:
well there was that pesky matter of the civil war he was dealing with at the time....
No crap?

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