Is Iraq worse or better off after US invasion?

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Ya think they'd be pulling this shit in Iraq if Hussein was still in power? Ummm...nope. The animals over there need a whacky dictator to keep...
Ya think they'd be pulling this shit in Iraq if Hussein was still in power? Ummm...nope. The animals over there need a whacky dictator to keep them in their cages. That place isn't ready for freedom and democracy and all of that other feel-good crap.
I have to agree a 100%

Its strange to me how a lot(most perhaps) of the rest of the world needs a strongman dictator as its leader in order to keep some form of civility. They must view there leader as a father figure rather than a servant to lead.
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At it again.

Hit that hornets' nest a few more times...lol.
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We killed some Muslim s ,not enuff,but it was a start. Now,we are letting them amass there,going back and smoke a bunch more. WELL, ITS 1,2,3...
We killed some Muslim s ,not enuff,but it was a start.

Now,we are letting them amass there,going back and smoke a bunch more.

WELL, ITS 1,2,3 WHAT ARE WE FIGHTIN' FER,

DON'T ASK ME CUZ I DON'T GIVE A DAMN

NEXT STOP IS TEHRAN

AND ITS 5,6,7 OPEN UP THE PALACE GATES

WELL,THERE AINT NO TIME TO WONDER WHY

ALL MUSLIMS GOTTA DIE.
So you don't know anything about why the war happened:

You don't care:

You want to fight Iran

The palace gates thing is dumb and nonsensical

There is not time to wonder why, evidently you're incapable of the thought process behind determining if murder is the correct course of action.

Lastly, all muslims "gotta die." Such poetic hate, I bet you can even spell your own name! Congratulations for being a prime example of stupidity.

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History now shows the wisdom of George H Bush, having endured all the criticism for chasing Sadam back across the border and not "finishing" the job.

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Iraqy solders dropped their weapons and ran. Nobody fought. There is no real leaders. State is not ready to be on it`s own. You`ll have to babysit it for another 20 years.
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History shows that Americans don't do any fact checking. There is entirely too much emphasis on personal beliefs, and not enough on truth.
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8/8/2014 9:18pm
kongols wrote:
Iraqy solders dropped their weapons and ran. Nobody fought. There is no real leaders. State is not ready to be on it`s own. You`ll have to...
Iraqy solders dropped their weapons and ran. Nobody fought. There is no real leaders. State is not ready to be on it`s own. You`ll have to babysit it for another 20 years.
Bama would fit in just fine there.
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8/8/2014 9:28pm Edited Date/Time 8/8/2014 9:30pm
kongols wrote:
Iraqy solders dropped their weapons and ran. Nobody fought. There is no real leaders. State is not ready to be on it`s own. You`ll have to...
Iraqy solders dropped their weapons and ran. Nobody fought. There is no real leaders. State is not ready to be on it`s own. You`ll have to babysit it for another 20 years.
Old-Man wrote:
Bama would fit in just fine there.
Right, of course the three presidents before him had no bearing what-so-ever on the situation in Iraq.

Perhaps sarah palin can ask god what he wants...it didn't seem to help her in the election process.
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kongols wrote:
Iraqy solders dropped their weapons and ran. Nobody fought. There is no real leaders. State is not ready to be on it`s own. You`ll have to...
Iraqy solders dropped their weapons and ran. Nobody fought. There is no real leaders. State is not ready to be on it`s own. You`ll have to babysit it for another 20 years.
Old-Man wrote:
Bama would fit in just fine there.
Right, of course the three presidents before him had no bearing what-so-ever on the situation in Iraq. Perhaps sarah palin can ask god what he wants...it...
Right, of course the three presidents before him had no bearing what-so-ever on the situation in Iraq.

Perhaps sarah palin can ask god what he wants...it didn't seem to help her in the election process.
You can spin it anyway that's fits your agenda, Obama is more of a dictator than any President in my lifetime. PALIN? REALLY? Just Pawn is the scheme
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Again...I said America was better off leaving Iraq alone..they need a dictator to keep the folks that can't survive on there own in line.
Kinda whats happening here now in America, if you give, give give... when it stops holy hell is to pay. The weak get weaker and feel a sense of entitlement..
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You can spin it anyway that's fits your agenda, Obama is more of a dictator than any President in my lifetime. PALIN? REALLY? Just Pawn is the scheme

Which administration is responsible for the patriot act?
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Again...I said America was better off leaving Iraq alone..they need a dictator to keep the folks that can't survive on there own in line. Kinda whats...
Again...I said America was better off leaving Iraq alone..they need a dictator to keep the folks that can't survive on there own in line.
Kinda whats happening here now in America, if you give, give give... when it stops holy hell is to pay. The weak get weaker and feel a sense of entitlement..
Again...I said America was better off leaving Iraq alone..they need a dictator to keep the folks that can't survive on there own in line.

I agree that there wasn't any reason to be in Iraq. However, the statement that they need a particular form of government is pure speculation.


Kinda whats happening here now in America, if you give, give give... when it stops holy hell is to pay. The weak get weaker and feel a sense of entitlement..


Really? Are you aware of the working conditions in the early 20th century? How about slavery in the 19th? It's the establishment of laws against the exploitation of workers, and the elimination of slaves that result in the largest economical growth in the history of the United States. How about the 71 billion dollars that would come from taxing churches?
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I'm simply pointing out the fact that Palin said "god wants to impeach obama." Now depending on your definition of god, he has the power to do so...he wouldn't need a moron like palin to explain it.

The impeachment of Obama will not happen. This means god doesn't know shit, evidently.
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As far as Palin is concerned I have know Friggen Idea

Politics and God go hand in hand, The same as all the Holy wars that have been from the beginning of time right? Even your avatar the Pope is very influential in what people believe



Obama isn't going anywhere soon unless someone assassinates him and if it hasn't happened by now it isn't going to.
What I was pointing out from my first post in this thread is that Bama would fit right in as a leader in Iraq...No? the people could relate to him as a world leader and change what is going on there with all the backing Israel has from the US.

Shit it's a win win.

"American Hustle" one of the best movies ever made
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hillbilly wrote:
We killed some Muslim s ,not enuff,but it was a start. Now,we are letting them amass there,going back and smoke a bunch more. WELL, ITS 1,2,3...
We killed some Muslim s ,not enuff,but it was a start.

Now,we are letting them amass there,going back and smoke a bunch more.

WELL, ITS 1,2,3 WHAT ARE WE FIGHTIN' FER,

DON'T ASK ME CUZ I DON'T GIVE A DAMN

NEXT STOP IS TEHRAN

AND ITS 5,6,7 OPEN UP THE PALACE GATES

WELL,THERE AINT NO TIME TO WONDER WHY

ALL MUSLIMS GOTTA DIE.
So you don't know anything about why the war happened: You don't care: You want to fight Iran The palace gates thing is dumb and nonsensical...
So you don't know anything about why the war happened:

You don't care:

You want to fight Iran

The palace gates thing is dumb and nonsensical

There is not time to wonder why, evidently you're incapable of the thought process behind determining if murder is the correct course of action.

Lastly, all muslims "gotta die." Such poetic hate, I bet you can even spell your own name! Congratulations for being a prime example of stupidity.

When other countries think of Americans, they think of people like you.
You ever heard of " country joe McDonald and the fish" ??

Thanks for taking the time to reply to ever line, obviously got under the skin.

I hate muslums , seeing them stacked like cord wood is the best.
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Old-Man wrote:
As far as Palin is concerned I have know Friggen Idea Politics and God go hand in hand, The same as all the Holy wars that...
As far as Palin is concerned I have know Friggen Idea

Politics and God go hand in hand, The same as all the Holy wars that have been from the beginning of time right? Even your avatar the Pope is very influential in what people believe



Obama isn't going anywhere soon unless someone assassinates him and if it hasn't happened by now it isn't going to.
What I was pointing out from my first post in this thread is that Bama would fit right in as a leader in Iraq...No? the people could relate to him as a world leader and change what is going on there with all the backing Israel has from the US.

Shit it's a win win.

"American Hustle" one of the best movies ever made
A few years back obama took credit for Iraq,said it was a great accomplishment.

Even bidden said it was one of obama greatest accomplishments.

Then,he leaves no one there to keep the peace and in 2 years fucks that place back up.

Obama can divide countries better than any race pimp before him.

He plays the victim better than sharpton or jackson also.
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Peace loving muslims hard at work.

8/9/2014 12:36pm
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Peace loving muslims hard at work. [img]http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx328/Beauacadian/animals.jpg[/img]
Peace loving muslims hard at work.

and sponsored by the US

https://youtu.be/4EAAuGvh_5s
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Hindsight is 20/20.
Hindsight is one thing being lied to is another isn't it?
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A few years back obama took credit for Iraq,said it was a great accomplishment. Even bidden said it was one of obama greatest accomplishments. Then,he leaves...
A few years back obama took credit for Iraq,said it was a great accomplishment.

Even bidden said it was one of obama greatest accomplishments.

Then,he leaves no one there to keep the peace and in 2 years fucks that place back up.

Obama can divide countries better than any race pimp before him.

He plays the victim better than sharpton or jackson also.
I am no fan of Obama's at this point but you're fabricating hillbilly.

Only thing Obama took credit for was withdrawing the troops. Yeah with the way things are we should have never left right? LOL. Hell let's can pick another country to invade screw up then have to stick around forever keeping it band aided together.

Excellent plan. I just wonder what group we will pay to arm then later have to pay to fight next time?
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8/9/2014 3:56pm Edited Date/Time 8/9/2014 5:03pm
Lies and the liers that lie.
part 2
Correction...
Liar vs. lier

The verb lie has two sets of definitions. First, it refers to someone or something that reclines, rests in a horizontal position, or is situated in a specified place. Someone or something that does one of these things is a lier. A lier on the floor, for instance, risks getting stepped on. The second main definition of lie is to make a statement one knows to be false. One who does this is a liar.
Sorry if i offended anyone who may have been in the horizontal position.
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motosmith wrote:
Hindsight is 20/20.
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Hindsight is one thing being lied to is another isn't it?
and people that believe lies is another.
people have stopped thinking for them selves, they have all become idiots
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and people that believe lies is another.
people have stopped thinking for them selves, they have all become idiots
I agree, and what causes this? being fed, clothed and told what to do all your life? Thats what GOV fed folks become. Unable to think for themselves without the aid of someone that does think for themselves. Like a Dog for instance, You get a shit load of Illegal immigrants here and cloth them, feed them, then tell them how to vote...

Idiots or self preservation?...Depends where your at on the food chain I guess. But this virus will continue
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I agree, and what causes this? being fed, clothed and told what to do all your life? Thats what GOV fed folks become. Unable to think...
I agree, and what causes this? being fed, clothed and told what to do all your life? Thats what GOV fed folks become. Unable to think for themselves without the aid of someone that does think for themselves. Like a Dog for instance, You get a shit load of Illegal immigrants here and cloth them, feed them, then tell them how to vote...

Idiots or self preservation?...Depends where your at on the food chain I guess. But this virus will continue
Illegal immigrants that must suddenly have become legal enough so they can vote are responsible for Iraq?

Standard knee jerk blame every thing on the illegals reaction aside everybody but one person voted on the Iraq resolution and there weren't any fresh illegals in on that vote.
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The ethnic cleansing of Baghdad during the Iraq War




There are few grimmer symbols for the devastation of the Iraq War than what it did to Baghdad's once-diverse neighborhoods. The map on the left shows the city's religious make-up in 2005. Mixed neighborhoods, then the norm, are in yellow. The map on right shows what it looked like by 2007, after two awful years of Sunni-Shia killing: bombings (shown with red dots), death squads, and militias. Coerced evictions and thousands of deaths effectively cleansed neighborhoods, to be mostly Shia (blue) or mostly Sunni (red). Since late 2012, the sectarian civil war has ramped back up, in Baghdad and nationwide
8/10/2014 2:29am
scotttydog wrote:
and people that believe lies is another.
people have stopped thinking for them selves, they have all become idiots
Old-Man wrote:
I agree, and what causes this? being fed, clothed and told what to do all your life? Thats what GOV fed folks become. Unable to think...
I agree, and what causes this? being fed, clothed and told what to do all your life? Thats what GOV fed folks become. Unable to think for themselves without the aid of someone that does think for themselves. Like a Dog for instance, You get a shit load of Illegal immigrants here and cloth them, feed them, then tell them how to vote...

Idiots or self preservation?...Depends where your at on the food chain I guess. But this virus will continue
voting just supports the system that allows this sort of shit to happen.
yes the virus feeds on fear and will continue until the host is dead,
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I'm thinking about going over there when this shit settles down, Haliburton hires CDL drivers, you can make 150k a year, food & board free. Sundays off.

may get your head chopped off, TAX FREE MONEY. Satellite tv, no beer.
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I'm thinking about going over there when this shit settles down, Haliburton hires CDL drivers, you can make 150k a year, food & board free. Sundays...
I'm thinking about going over there when this shit settles down, Haliburton hires CDL drivers, you can make 150k a year, food & board free. Sundays off.

may get your head chopped off, TAX FREE MONEY. Satellite tv, no beer.
Are you going with cloning or freezing your head RE: going over there when things settle down? It is a long shot you will be around to see when things settle down.
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h&m_cycle wrote:
I'm thinking about going over there when this shit settles down, Haliburton hires CDL drivers, you can make 150k a year, food & board free. Sundays...
I'm thinking about going over there when this shit settles down, Haliburton hires CDL drivers, you can make 150k a year, food & board free. Sundays off.

may get your head chopped off, TAX FREE MONEY. Satellite tv, no beer.
The Rock wrote:
Are you going with cloning or freezing your head RE: going over there when things settle down? It is a long shot you will be around...
Are you going with cloning or freezing your head RE: going over there when things settle down? It is a long shot you will be around to see when things settle down.
We've been trying to get some engines started up in Iraq for 3 years now..they would be used to pump water into the ground to force oil out....well everytime the customer was getting close to having them commissioned someone would blow up the pipeline or blow up the pumping station or blow up the natural gas storage. Just two months ago I had lined up a few Canadians to fly over ( cost BIG $$$ ) to start them up...needless to say I dont see BP ever getting these units online.

There is a lot of additional economic potential in the Middle East ..it could help grow our economy and create US jobs..too bad it will always be a shit show.
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yeah, I had my chance...

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