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8/4/2014 11:00am
well before race 2 Max Anstie's bike was almost not ready , the guys were working feverishly to try and sort the issue that nearly caused him to miss the start of moto1 , and they must have only had a few seconds to spare... when Max didnt show on the sighting lap , we feared the worse, but he rode well, even with a sticking throttle to bag a well earned win..

And the weather, having watched the last race , i can tell you that the rain at the track was nothing compared to what hit the car park a mile away , we were soaked to the skin in under 15 seconds, and the visibilty was so bad , you couldnt see 50 metres ... scariest rain i ever saw.. the TV guys would have gone down if that had hit properly..

Great weekend , awesome racing
8/4/2014 11:00am
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I'm not sure you understood what Outsider meant Xavier. I guess it was more about the TV coverage being really average and boring which is true...
I'm not sure you understood what Outsider meant Xavier. I guess it was more about the TV coverage being really average and boring which is true and Malin can't do anything for that. The sound is horrible, the cameras not where they need to be, to me it's a mess and doesn't look professionnal production wise...

Cairoli reminded us one thing at this GP. If indeed RV is entering the GPs, It will be no joke to beat him. Tony has a margin. Did you see in that first moto, when Paulin came close, he looked back, and boum, he was gone. Dude has everything to win championships. Maybe not the dedication of some americans (Villo, Tomac etc...) but he's got the all the rest of the package. He's fit, smart, and fast as hell...
Did you see in that first moto, when Paulin came close, he looked back, and boum, he was gone

Very true, the same thing occurred to me at that moment too.

Have to disagree with some of the comments toward the coverage being poor, though admittedly I'm clearly in the minority here. Personally I think it's awesome. I do think the riders look a touch slower in the GP coverage for some reason - though this is probably at least in part due to the style of tracks in general, but it's not something that overly stands out to me. I also love Malin's and Wheeler's commentary. Each to their own of course.
8/4/2014 11:07am
de Reuver still strong in the sand, he crashed saterday, and wanted to keep hem in hospital over night. but he wanted to ride on sunday...
de Reuver still strong in the sand, he crashed saterday, and wanted to keep hem in hospital over night. but he wanted to ride on sunday. than 10 and 5, 6 overal (partimer and oldest one in the mx1)

And his starts. not on the gate, but a bit later, crossing the start field behind everyone to the inside line.
I grew up following GP series and it's been a while since I saw de Reuver but I was surprised how strong he was in Lommel. Have you guys noticed Anstie's issues before the 1st moto start? He had to be mad! And then, holeshot and straight to his first career moto win.
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8/4/2014 11:35am Edited Date/Time 8/4/2014 11:38am
I'm sorry guys, I didn't want to start the same old bullshit again!!! I was talkin' just about the TV coverage, nothing about the speed, riders...
I'm sorry guys, I didn't want to start the same old bullshit again!!! I was talkin' just about the TV coverage, nothing about the speed, riders etc.
No worries but dd you actually see the Belgium GP this weekend or are your comments based on past experience? . I am asking since I thought Lommel was one of the better races this year. Paulin then Simpson busting out that quad was insane and I really ove watching Paulin ride. He manhandles that 450!

EDIT: PhilG-Sounds crazy with the weather.

Motocross83-I agree with you on the commentators. I actually like Malin better now that Wheeler is in the booth since I think Adam's style complements/balances Malin's.

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8/4/2014 12:28pm
philG wrote:
well before race 2 Max Anstie's bike was almost not ready , the guys were working feverishly to try and sort the issue that nearly caused...
well before race 2 Max Anstie's bike was almost not ready , the guys were working feverishly to try and sort the issue that nearly caused him to miss the start of moto1 , and they must have only had a few seconds to spare... when Max didnt show on the sighting lap , we feared the worse, but he rode well, even with a sticking throttle to bag a well earned win..

And the weather, having watched the last race , i can tell you that the rain at the track was nothing compared to what hit the car park a mile away , we were soaked to the skin in under 15 seconds, and the visibilty was so bad , you couldnt see 50 metres ... scariest rain i ever saw.. the TV guys would have gone down if that had hit properly..

Great weekend , awesome racing
They mentioned Ansti's pre 2nd Moto problems but didn't elaborate,it's weird sometimes how things go,from almost tragedy to adversity,no wonder he was stoked,mind you Max does the best interviews eh Woohoo
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8/4/2014 12:39pm
philG wrote:
well before race 2 Max Anstie's bike was almost not ready , the guys were working feverishly to try and sort the issue that nearly caused...
well before race 2 Max Anstie's bike was almost not ready , the guys were working feverishly to try and sort the issue that nearly caused him to miss the start of moto1 , and they must have only had a few seconds to spare... when Max didnt show on the sighting lap , we feared the worse, but he rode well, even with a sticking throttle to bag a well earned win..

And the weather, having watched the last race , i can tell you that the rain at the track was nothing compared to what hit the car park a mile away , we were soaked to the skin in under 15 seconds, and the visibilty was so bad , you couldnt see 50 metres ... scariest rain i ever saw.. the TV guys would have gone down if that had hit properly..

Great weekend , awesome racing
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They mentioned Ansti's pre 2nd Moto problems but didn't elaborate,it's weird sometimes how things go,from almost tragedy to adversity,no wonder he was stoked,mind you Max does...
They mentioned Ansti's pre 2nd Moto problems but didn't elaborate,it's weird sometimes how things go,from almost tragedy to adversity,no wonder he was stoked,mind you Max does the best interviews eh Woohoo
Seriously , the bike was dead at the start of race one and he only just got it into gear after it fired as the gate went, and as we left the Bike It rig , they were still trying to splice wires into the harness, i had to leave , cant watch people doing shit like that last minute, after Max's win , it would have been a brutal blow .... no idea how they got it done in time must have been close , and i think they didnt want to get the bike warm , and then have to try and restart it.

we only saw pics at the track, but twitter went nuts over the interview... and he was in our hotel , my lad said after the first race win 'thats the second time today he has checked out' .. funny as

8/4/2014 1:14pm
keinz wrote:
PAULINWoohoo Woohoo Woohoo
keinz wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bltrhStItqI&list=UUOlCqreTEPtLeuNu3hJhEBQ [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2014/08/04/61469/s1200_paulin.jpg[/img]
that slowmotion at 1:10... are they even serious?
looks like my gf shot this with her iphone
8/4/2014 1:43pm
This came over 2nd moto MXGP.

8/5/2014 3:34am Edited Date/Time 8/5/2014 3:37am
philG wrote:
well before race 2 Max Anstie's bike was almost not ready , the guys were working feverishly to try and sort the issue that nearly caused...
well before race 2 Max Anstie's bike was almost not ready , the guys were working feverishly to try and sort the issue that nearly caused him to miss the start of moto1 , and they must have only had a few seconds to spare... when Max didnt show on the sighting lap , we feared the worse, but he rode well, even with a sticking throttle to bag a well earned win..

And the weather, having watched the last race , i can tell you that the rain at the track was nothing compared to what hit the car park a mile away , we were soaked to the skin in under 15 seconds, and the visibilty was so bad , you couldnt see 50 metres ... scariest rain i ever saw.. the TV guys would have gone down if that had hit properly..

Great weekend , awesome racing
PressPassP wrote:
They mentioned Ansti's pre 2nd Moto problems but didn't elaborate,it's weird sometimes how things go,from almost tragedy to adversity,no wonder he was stoked,mind you Max does...
They mentioned Ansti's pre 2nd Moto problems but didn't elaborate,it's weird sometimes how things go,from almost tragedy to adversity,no wonder he was stoked,mind you Max does the best interviews eh Woohoo
why is it taking them so long to sort the bike out? After watching max this weekend, you've got to think he would have had a good shot at the title this year if his bike hadn't let him down so many times.

You would think with all dixons resources/ knowledge that he would be able to get the bike sorted- its been nearly a full season now! maybe needs to hire some new mechanics? It makes it look even worse when you see martin, pourcel, webb in america on the same base bike all doing really well and having no issues all year

very strange situation- especially with dixon being such a well respected team owner, he has always had the reputation as having one of the best bikes in the gp paddock


it might even cost anstie his place in the des nations team? he's obviously fast enough- on this seasons results you would have to go with anstie and simpson, with either searle or wilson as the 3rd member. But would you risk taking anstie given all the mechanical problems they've had all year? It would be heartbraking for us if we lost out on a good result through a mechanical problem.

Tough decision!
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8/5/2014 4:17am
why is it taking them so long to sort the bike out? After watching max this weekend, you've got to think he would have had a...
why is it taking them so long to sort the bike out? After watching max this weekend, you've got to think he would have had a good shot at the title this year if his bike hadn't let him down so many times.

You would think with all dixons resources/ knowledge that he would be able to get the bike sorted- its been nearly a full season now! maybe needs to hire some new mechanics? It makes it look even worse when you see martin, pourcel, webb in america on the same base bike all doing really well and having no issues all year

very strange situation- especially with dixon being such a well respected team owner, he has always had the reputation as having one of the best bikes in the gp paddock


it might even cost anstie his place in the des nations team? he's obviously fast enough- on this seasons results you would have to go with anstie and simpson, with either searle or wilson as the 3rd member. But would you risk taking anstie given all the mechanical problems they've had all year? It would be heartbraking for us if we lost out on a good result through a mechanical problem.

Tough decision!
I heard Max engine is the same as Martin's, Webb's etc... I don't know all the details but it seems it's an "american" engine so it needs american fuel and that's why he broke twice at the first round and they have difficulties to sort it out.
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The motor they are using is in conjunction with Cosworth, , and is done local to me by folk I know , Dixon has his own ideas which take time to sort out , and this is the first year (as far is I am aware) of this spec of reverse cylinder bike , which they didn't get till very late ... hence riding the 13 bike in the flyaways..

They run it very hard , and very high revving , and as a result , things are giving up , and that is what they are dialling out ... at Lommel it was a sensor/ wiring issue that gave them the problems between races, the bike is very different to what everyone else is doing.
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8/5/2014 4:59am Edited Date/Time 8/5/2014 5:03am
My first visit to Lommel with my eldest daughter and really enjoyed it and yes that rain was something else!! We managed to get cover under a vendors porch.








EMX150 Winner Albie








Van Horbeek before Race 2 nursing a very sore eye



8/5/2014 4:59am Edited Date/Time 8/5/2014 5:00am
philG wrote:
The motor they are using is in conjunction with Cosworth, , and is done local to me by folk I know , Dixon has his own...
The motor they are using is in conjunction with Cosworth, , and is done local to me by folk I know , Dixon has his own ideas which take time to sort out , and this is the first year (as far is I am aware) of this spec of reverse cylinder bike , which they didn't get till very late ... hence riding the 13 bike in the flyaways..

They run it very hard , and very high revving , and as a result , things are giving up , and that is what they are dialling out ... at Lommel it was a sensor/ wiring issue that gave them the problems between races, the bike is very different to what everyone else is doing.
its the first year of this spec bike in the states aswel though- where they havent had any issues all season! (at least on race day anyway) - theyve had every oakley bomb award, nearly every holeshot and moto win! and no mechanical dnfs!!

even more strange that cosworth (another very well respected company for tuning/ building engines) are involved and still can't sort it out. Motocross bikes are very basic compared to formula one engines!

You would think that if they are trying to do something so much different to everyone else and its not working- they might try to run something similar to the american bikes (at least for now) - then do all the testing/ development on the 'radically different' bike they want to run, in the off season. The base bike is obviously very good - so why not run something a little more close to that?

must be very frustrating for max and the team.
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8/5/2014 8:12am
Van Horebeek:

"...but then Simpson and Paulin started to jump the quad and I looked at it and believed it was quite easy, so I went for it also. Yeah…it was further than I thought! I cased it quite badly and smashed my face on the handlebar. My eye was bleeding a lot and I wasn't feeling so well. I wasn’t sure about the second moto but we are racers, not football players so I went for it. I had an awesome start but I started bleeding again and it was running into the goggles so I had to dump them, it was ‘game over’ then. A shame but I’m having an awesome season and we are close to second in the championship.”
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8/5/2014 10:28am
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My first visit to Lommel with my eldest daughter and really enjoyed it and yes that rain was something else!! We managed to get cover under...
My first visit to Lommel with my eldest daughter and really enjoyed it and yes that rain was something else!! We managed to get cover under a vendors porch.








EMX150 Winner Albie








Van Horbeek before Race 2 nursing a very sore eye



Thanks for sharing. Glad you and your eldest daughter had fun.
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Thanks for sharing. Glad you and your eldest daughter had fun.
Hi The Rock, thank you we did have fun. Not only watching the racing, but also wondering the pits.


















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its the first year of this spec bike in the states aswel though- where they havent had any issues all season! (at least on race day...
its the first year of this spec bike in the states aswel though- where they havent had any issues all season! (at least on race day anyway) - theyve had every oakley bomb award, nearly every holeshot and moto win! and no mechanical dnfs!!

even more strange that cosworth (another very well respected company for tuning/ building engines) are involved and still can't sort it out. Motocross bikes are very basic compared to formula one engines!

You would think that if they are trying to do something so much different to everyone else and its not working- they might try to run something similar to the american bikes (at least for now) - then do all the testing/ development on the 'radically different' bike they want to run, in the off season. The base bike is obviously very good - so why not run something a little more close to that?

must be very frustrating for max and the team.
Before they got in partnership with Cosworth, Steve Dixon came to Ilmor to have a look round , but it didnt go any further, we would have wanted proper money to do the job , whereas Cosworth would be interested in the publicity and the sales of bits, which we didnt want .

I know its got a lot of good stuff in it , i also know that once they get it sorted, nothing will touch it , as was the case with the old bikes.

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