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Ghost of Jabroni 8/1/2014 8:05pm
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steed 2.0 wrote:
I'm a breeder, train and rearing Greyhounds for over 20 years There are some viruses that can cause diarrhea, the most common is the coronavirus This...
I'm a breeder, train and rearing Greyhounds for over 20 years

There are some viruses that can cause diarrhea, the most common is the coronavirus
This gives relatively mild symptoms that include vomiting and diarrhea, usually without blood

Diarrhea of viral origin is often accompanied by increased body temperature, in these dogs the temperature are above 39.5!, normally this will be between 38-39 degrees Celsius (measured rectally).due this high temperature the dogs are often slower

When not treated quickly young dogs can dry out easily by the lack of salts, I would start with electrolyte replenishment

Considering the age of your puppy rapidly seek veterinary advice!
Ghost of Jabroni wrote:
Thx for it input. Definitely no blood in his stool. But he's regressed from last nite/this morning. Puked and diarrhea 1x each since getting to my...
Thx for it input.

Definitely no blood in his stool.

But he's regressed from last nite/this morning.

Puked and diarrhea 1x each since getting to my parents place. (70 degrees there). My chic is freaking out because the pup won't stop crying unless he's curled up in her lap. This is definitely not his normal behavior.

She can't get him to drink fluids. Only I was able too.

I've told her to get in the car and head to town where there are several vet offices. I have to find another one.

I'm tired of the guesswork but I'm also going to be pissed if they tell us were doing the right things and he just needs time. They could've said that over the phone and I avoid a 4 hr round trip drive.

In the event that the pup need vet treatment, I cringe at what this will cost considering they won't even tell me ballpark. I feel like I'm being extorted.
steed 2.0 wrote:
Don't panic a shot antibiotic and some electrolyte will do the trick, search for a vet who does farm animals
Ok thx. That eases my concern$ considerably.
gabrielmalinois 8/1/2014 8:29pm
8/1/2014 8:29pm Edited Date/Time 8/1/2014 8:29pm
Ghost of Jabroni wrote:
Thx for it input. Definitely no blood in his stool. But he's regressed from last nite/this morning. Puked and diarrhea 1x each since getting to my...
Thx for it input.

Definitely no blood in his stool.

But he's regressed from last nite/this morning.

Puked and diarrhea 1x each since getting to my parents place. (70 degrees there). My chic is freaking out because the pup won't stop crying unless he's curled up in her lap. This is definitely not his normal behavior.

She can't get him to drink fluids. Only I was able too.

I've told her to get in the car and head to town where there are several vet offices. I have to find another one.

I'm tired of the guesswork but I'm also going to be pissed if they tell us were doing the right things and he just needs time. They could've said that over the phone and I avoid a 4 hr round trip drive.

In the event that the pup need vet treatment, I cringe at what this will cost considering they won't even tell me ballpark. I feel like I'm being extorted.
gabrielmalinois wrote:
"I'm tired of the guesswork but I'm also going to be pissed if they tell us were doing the right things and he just needs time...
"I'm tired of the guesswork but I'm also going to be pissed if they tell us were doing the right things and he just needs time. They could've said that over the phone and I avoid a 4 hr round trip drive".

That is what you want to hear. At least that is what I am hoping for.


Vets can be tricky. I have spent thousands of dollars in vet bills (a lot unnecessary). Everybody who owns a pet has to figure out what they are willing to pay for care because nowadays they can treat most of the things doctors treat in humans. It can get crazy. I don't know what type of breeder you got him from but most reputable ones would cover this sort of stuff or at least replace the dog if it is serious. If you want to know what is wrong and want the pup to get adequate treatment then it probably needs to see a vet.
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I'm willing to pay. I'm attached to the dog already. I'm just not a fan of how the vet goes about business. A friend who lives...
I'm willing to pay. I'm attached to the dog already. I'm just not a fan of how the vet goes about business.

A friend who lives close to the vet went in just now to talk to them. Got them to agree to see the pup and diagnose him for free. Anything past that and I'm paying the bill, which I'm totally ok with. It's all I was asking from them when I initially called. The pup woulda been to the vet this morning had they agreed to that and this thread likely wouldn't exist.

He'll be there in next 30 minutes.

Thanks for everyone's concern and help. My chic hates vital and thinks everyone on here has something wrong with them. But I think she likes this place just a lil after today.

I'll let y'all know how it turns out.
It can get out of hand pretty quick. I don't think you will have that sort of problem though. From my experience vets are typically honest, professional people, who expect you to spare no expense to take care of a sick dog and don't cut any slack if their initial treatment doesn't work or makes things worse. Because diagnostics aren't as thorough as with people a lot of treatment is trial and error. That is when things can start to add up.
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Ghost of Jabroni wrote:
I'm willing to pay. I'm attached to the dog already. I'm just not a fan of how the vet goes about business. A friend who lives...
I'm willing to pay. I'm attached to the dog already. I'm just not a fan of how the vet goes about business.

A friend who lives close to the vet went in just now to talk to them. Got them to agree to see the pup and diagnose him for free. Anything past that and I'm paying the bill, which I'm totally ok with. It's all I was asking from them when I initially called. The pup woulda been to the vet this morning had they agreed to that and this thread likely wouldn't exist.

He'll be there in next 30 minutes.

Thanks for everyone's concern and help. My chic hates vital and thinks everyone on here has something wrong with them. But I think she likes this place just a lil after today.

I'll let y'all know how it turns out.
Your Chic knows you are here right ? What kind of Chic goes forward with someone she knows has something wrong with him?
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Ghost of Jabroni 8/1/2014 9:37pm
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Ghost of Jabroni wrote:
I'm willing to pay. I'm attached to the dog already. I'm just not a fan of how the vet goes about business. A friend who lives...
I'm willing to pay. I'm attached to the dog already. I'm just not a fan of how the vet goes about business.

A friend who lives close to the vet went in just now to talk to them. Got them to agree to see the pup and diagnose him for free. Anything past that and I'm paying the bill, which I'm totally ok with. It's all I was asking from them when I initially called. The pup woulda been to the vet this morning had they agreed to that and this thread likely wouldn't exist.

He'll be there in next 30 minutes.

Thanks for everyone's concern and help. My chic hates vital and thinks everyone on here has something wrong with them. But I think she likes this place just a lil after today.

I'll let y'all know how it turns out.
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Your Chic knows you are here right ? What kind of Chic goes forward with someone she knows has something wrong with him?
Ha! I dunno man. Vital is just one of many reasons I'm not good enough for her.

Anyways, just got word on the vet visit.

They said they are almost positive it's not parvo or a bad reaction to the shot. But I already suspected as much.

They think that the ferns he ate easily could be the culprit. More yard work for me tomorrow it appears. But that wouldn't explain the mucas.

If he has a virus, they need a stool sample, which to be tested costs only $30. We're going to take one in tomorrow.

They don't think he needs emergency hydration or anything drastic. Likely he got messed up from the ferns or needs some antibiotics which won't cost me much.

And they finally got him to eat some more. Some bland wet canned dog food. Which is a good sign. Hopefully he can hold it down.

As of now they don't think there is any risk of immediate death. We got time to get the stool checked out and get him on the proper meds. So I can rest easy tonite.
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steed 2.0 8/2/2014 4:05am
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Moist food is very good, our dry food has always been soaked in water, this is to ensure that the Greyhounds doesn't choke as when eating alongside others, they can gulp their food down

Don't stap in the "permium food" marketing trap, I always smile when hear folks feed 33-lb-bags like Eukanuba for a price tag over $ 60, I feed "permium food" price tag $10 http://www.redmillsusa.com/us

This being said, we only feed dry food ( soaked in water ) for breakfast, dry food ain't good it's lacking essential bacteria

4D meat is the primary ingredient in most pet foods, even premium brands, Pet food is cooked which kills the E. Coli bacteria, but also alters its nutritional composition
All attempts to replicate the diets of racing dogs with cooked food have resulted in failure
Racing greyhounds simply do not perform as well on a commercial diet as on one partially composed of raw meat
Many pet owners of a variety of breeds have converted to a B.A.R.F. (Bones and Raw Food) diet similar to typical racing greyhound fare.

Electrolyte is nothing drastic and won't break the Bank http://www.gentlecarepet.com/product/2201CE


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PalerBlue 8/2/2014 7:05am
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Came to this thread late and luckily I didn't have to worry for you and the pup as the outcome was already up. Smile

Feeding my new puppy was a bit of a problem, he didn't like any dried food and the canned puppy food shot through him in an unsightly mess, so now he's getting fresh chicken livers with scrambled eggs and white rice. Seems very popular with him!
Ghost of Jabroni 8/2/2014 9:07am
8/2/2014 9:07am
steed 2.0 wrote:
Moist food is very good, our dry food has always been soaked in water, this is to ensure that the Greyhounds doesn't choke as when eating...
Moist food is very good, our dry food has always been soaked in water, this is to ensure that the Greyhounds doesn't choke as when eating alongside others, they can gulp their food down

Don't stap in the "permium food" marketing trap, I always smile when hear folks feed 33-lb-bags like Eukanuba for a price tag over $ 60, I feed "permium food" price tag $10 http://www.redmillsusa.com/us

This being said, we only feed dry food ( soaked in water ) for breakfast, dry food ain't good it's lacking essential bacteria

4D meat is the primary ingredient in most pet foods, even premium brands, Pet food is cooked which kills the E. Coli bacteria, but also alters its nutritional composition
All attempts to replicate the diets of racing dogs with cooked food have resulted in failure
Racing greyhounds simply do not perform as well on a commercial diet as on one partially composed of raw meat
Many pet owners of a variety of breeds have converted to a B.A.R.F. (Bones and Raw Food) diet similar to typical racing greyhound fare.

Electrolyte is nothing drastic and won't break the Bank http://www.gentlecarepet.com/product/2201CE


Great stuff. Thx.

Ya I'm not a huge fan of "premium" dry food. I get what ur saying. My biggest concern was that it's made here in the USA and not coming from China.

I did a bunch of reading on pet diet prior to getting this dog and I also found what u say about raw meat to be true. When I was living in Europe I found that from experience, and reading, most people already subscribe to this and their pets don't have nearly the health issues. At the time I was planning on getting a English or French bulldog, whom are more high maintenance than a pitbull (when it comes to physical health issues). Yet they weren't havering the same problems over there because the diet was mostly raw chicken neck, rice, pasta, and some select steamed veggies mixed in. I plan on switching his diet over to that as I assumed the more natural food I can feed him and less processed dry stuff, probably the better?

As of this morning, pup is still eating the wet food. Holding it down with no issues. And btw, wasn't running a fever yesterday at vet. He still isn't drinking water so were going to have to trick him and water down the wet food.
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I use puppy chow with warm water, I let it sit for 5-10 minutes until the water is absorbed.

They go crazy from day one !
gabrielmalinois 8/2/2014 10:24am
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steed 2.0 wrote:
Moist food is very good, our dry food has always been soaked in water, this is to ensure that the Greyhounds doesn't choke as when eating...
Moist food is very good, our dry food has always been soaked in water, this is to ensure that the Greyhounds doesn't choke as when eating alongside others, they can gulp their food down

Don't stap in the "permium food" marketing trap, I always smile when hear folks feed 33-lb-bags like Eukanuba for a price tag over $ 60, I feed "permium food" price tag $10 http://www.redmillsusa.com/us

This being said, we only feed dry food ( soaked in water ) for breakfast, dry food ain't good it's lacking essential bacteria

4D meat is the primary ingredient in most pet foods, even premium brands, Pet food is cooked which kills the E. Coli bacteria, but also alters its nutritional composition
All attempts to replicate the diets of racing dogs with cooked food have resulted in failure
Racing greyhounds simply do not perform as well on a commercial diet as on one partially composed of raw meat
Many pet owners of a variety of breeds have converted to a B.A.R.F. (Bones and Raw Food) diet similar to typical racing greyhound fare.

Electrolyte is nothing drastic and won't break the Bank http://www.gentlecarepet.com/product/2201CE


Ghost of Jabroni wrote:
Great stuff. Thx. Ya I'm not a huge fan of "premium" dry food. I get what ur saying. My biggest concern was that it's made here...
Great stuff. Thx.

Ya I'm not a huge fan of "premium" dry food. I get what ur saying. My biggest concern was that it's made here in the USA and not coming from China.

I did a bunch of reading on pet diet prior to getting this dog and I also found what u say about raw meat to be true. When I was living in Europe I found that from experience, and reading, most people already subscribe to this and their pets don't have nearly the health issues. At the time I was planning on getting a English or French bulldog, whom are more high maintenance than a pitbull (when it comes to physical health issues). Yet they weren't havering the same problems over there because the diet was mostly raw chicken neck, rice, pasta, and some select steamed veggies mixed in. I plan on switching his diet over to that as I assumed the more natural food I can feed him and less processed dry stuff, probably the better?

As of this morning, pup is still eating the wet food. Holding it down with no issues. And btw, wasn't running a fever yesterday at vet. He still isn't drinking water so were going to have to trick him and water down the wet food.
Everybody I have ever met that owns a competitive dog feeds them a raw diet. There really is no comparison however it is very expensive and if you do it yourself a complete pain in the ass. I use human grade made in USA dry food as a compromise. With a raw diet there is a risk of bacteria like e-coli. The dogs in my deceased dog's lines lived to between 14 and 17 years old. My dogs "grandpa" outlived my dog (not natural causes though) and his mom. I mean out lived in that it was alive when our dogs died (4 years after mine's mom) His mom lived to 17, that is crazy long for a medium to large breed. His other dogs regardless of lines live to 14 or so years All raw diet, the only difference (the breed typically lives 10 -12). The next puppy I get will be fed a raw diet (although I am not certain if that shouldn't be started when they are somewhat older or not).
Ghost of Jabroni 8/2/2014 11:56am
8/2/2014 11:56am
No-K wrote:
I use puppy chow with warm water, I let it sit for 5-10 minutes until the water is absorbed.

They go crazy from day one !
I was doing that the first week. Different food but same method.
Ghost of Jabroni 8/2/2014 12:01pm
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steed 2.0 wrote:
Moist food is very good, our dry food has always been soaked in water, this is to ensure that the Greyhounds doesn't choke as when eating...
Moist food is very good, our dry food has always been soaked in water, this is to ensure that the Greyhounds doesn't choke as when eating alongside others, they can gulp their food down

Don't stap in the "permium food" marketing trap, I always smile when hear folks feed 33-lb-bags like Eukanuba for a price tag over $ 60, I feed "permium food" price tag $10 http://www.redmillsusa.com/us

This being said, we only feed dry food ( soaked in water ) for breakfast, dry food ain't good it's lacking essential bacteria

4D meat is the primary ingredient in most pet foods, even premium brands, Pet food is cooked which kills the E. Coli bacteria, but also alters its nutritional composition
All attempts to replicate the diets of racing dogs with cooked food have resulted in failure
Racing greyhounds simply do not perform as well on a commercial diet as on one partially composed of raw meat
Many pet owners of a variety of breeds have converted to a B.A.R.F. (Bones and Raw Food) diet similar to typical racing greyhound fare.

Electrolyte is nothing drastic and won't break the Bank http://www.gentlecarepet.com/product/2201CE


Ghost of Jabroni wrote:
Great stuff. Thx. Ya I'm not a huge fan of "premium" dry food. I get what ur saying. My biggest concern was that it's made here...
Great stuff. Thx.

Ya I'm not a huge fan of "premium" dry food. I get what ur saying. My biggest concern was that it's made here in the USA and not coming from China.

I did a bunch of reading on pet diet prior to getting this dog and I also found what u say about raw meat to be true. When I was living in Europe I found that from experience, and reading, most people already subscribe to this and their pets don't have nearly the health issues. At the time I was planning on getting a English or French bulldog, whom are more high maintenance than a pitbull (when it comes to physical health issues). Yet they weren't havering the same problems over there because the diet was mostly raw chicken neck, rice, pasta, and some select steamed veggies mixed in. I plan on switching his diet over to that as I assumed the more natural food I can feed him and less processed dry stuff, probably the better?

As of this morning, pup is still eating the wet food. Holding it down with no issues. And btw, wasn't running a fever yesterday at vet. He still isn't drinking water so were going to have to trick him and water down the wet food.
gabrielmalinois wrote:
Everybody I have ever met that owns a competitive dog feeds them a raw diet. There really is no comparison however it is very expensive and...
Everybody I have ever met that owns a competitive dog feeds them a raw diet. There really is no comparison however it is very expensive and if you do it yourself a complete pain in the ass. I use human grade made in USA dry food as a compromise. With a raw diet there is a risk of bacteria like e-coli. The dogs in my deceased dog's lines lived to between 14 and 17 years old. My dogs "grandpa" outlived my dog (not natural causes though) and his mom. I mean out lived in that it was alive when our dogs died (4 years after mine's mom) His mom lived to 17, that is crazy long for a medium to large breed. His other dogs regardless of lines live to 14 or so years All raw diet, the only difference (the breed typically lives 10 -12). The next puppy I get will be fed a raw diet (although I am not certain if that shouldn't be started when they are somewhat older or not).
I had the same concerns. I want to wait til he's older before going raw. Looks like I'll be doing wet food for the next few weeks.

As for the cost of raw food, there are ways to make it not so bad. And the pup is a part of my family. I have no issues treating his diet with same care I would a child.

I work my ass off so my chic can be a house mom. Cooking for this puppy is good practice for when we have a kid.
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I don't have fences so the dogs free feed on fresh raw almost daily, anything from a lizard to a deer. Plus I give them scraps from what ever I butcher.

Oh, the dewormer needs to be given every two weeks until they are around 10-12 weeks to be effective. But, it's not needed for a puppy to grow up healthy.






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Hey man,I've not read all this,my battery is going dead,

But ferns and hemlock are toxic,keep him away.
Ghost of Jabroni 8/3/2014 12:43am
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Hey man,I've not read all this,my battery is going dead,

But ferns and hemlock are toxic,keep him away.
Ok thx. As of now the ferns look like the likely culprit.
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I don't have fences so the dogs free feed on fresh raw almost daily, anything from a lizard to a deer. Plus I give them scraps...
I don't have fences so the dogs free feed on fresh raw almost daily, anything from a lizard to a deer. Plus I give them scraps from what ever I butcher.

Oh, the dewormer needs to be given every two weeks until they are around 10-12 weeks to be effective. But, it's not needed for a puppy to grow up healthy.






Ur dogs take down deer all by themselves?
Ghost of Jabroni 8/3/2014 12:49am
8/3/2014 12:49am
steed 2.0 wrote:
Moist food is very good, our dry food has always been soaked in water, this is to ensure that the Greyhounds doesn't choke as when eating...
Moist food is very good, our dry food has always been soaked in water, this is to ensure that the Greyhounds doesn't choke as when eating alongside others, they can gulp their food down

Don't stap in the "permium food" marketing trap, I always smile when hear folks feed 33-lb-bags like Eukanuba for a price tag over $ 60, I feed "permium food" price tag $10 http://www.redmillsusa.com/us

This being said, we only feed dry food ( soaked in water ) for breakfast, dry food ain't good it's lacking essential bacteria

4D meat is the primary ingredient in most pet foods, even premium brands, Pet food is cooked which kills the E. Coli bacteria, but also alters its nutritional composition
All attempts to replicate the diets of racing dogs with cooked food have resulted in failure
Racing greyhounds simply do not perform as well on a commercial diet as on one partially composed of raw meat
Many pet owners of a variety of breeds have converted to a B.A.R.F. (Bones and Raw Food) diet similar to typical racing greyhound fare.

Electrolyte is nothing drastic and won't break the Bank http://www.gentlecarepet.com/product/2201CE


One more question...

How much should I be feeding the pup?

I was kinda under the assumption that I should just let him eat, eat, and eat some more while he's little and growing like he is. So I put food in his bowl and let him chow down. He'd eventually get full on the dry stuff and leave it alone for a couple hrs. But with this wet stuff, I don't think he'd stop if I just kept opening can after can. He really likes it. But there has to be a point where I could over feed him right?
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Ghost of Jabroni wrote:
One more question... How much should I be feeding the pup? I was kinda under the assumption that I should just let him eat, eat, and...
One more question...

How much should I be feeding the pup?

I was kinda under the assumption that I should just let him eat, eat, and eat some more while he's little and growing like he is. So I put food in his bowl and let him chow down. He'd eventually get full on the dry stuff and leave it alone for a couple hrs. But with this wet stuff, I don't think he'd stop if I just kept opening can after can. He really likes it. But there has to be a point where I could over feed him right?
I let them eat for 15 minutes and then take the food bowl away (even if it's half full) I don't like lazy eaters

4 times a day until 12 weeks
3 times a day 3 to 8 months

Some can eat anything and they never get upset stomachs but there is always a risk for twisted stomach when they are older

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Everybody I have ever met that owns a competitive dog feeds them a raw diet. There really is no comparison however it is very expensive and...
Everybody I have ever met that owns a competitive dog feeds them a raw diet. There really is no comparison however it is very expensive and if you do it yourself a complete pain in the ass. I use human grade made in USA dry food as a compromise. With a raw diet there is a risk of bacteria like e-coli. The dogs in my deceased dog's lines lived to between 14 and 17 years old. My dogs "grandpa" outlived my dog (not natural causes though) and his mom. I mean out lived in that it was alive when our dogs died (4 years after mine's mom) His mom lived to 17, that is crazy long for a medium to large breed. His other dogs regardless of lines live to 14 or so years All raw diet, the only difference (the breed typically lives 10 -12). The next puppy I get will be fed a raw diet (although I am not certain if that shouldn't be started when they are somewhat older or not).
Raw food is actually cheaper

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No, they steal it from the lions or coyotes, they'll bring one home 2-3 times a year. But they bring home a leg or two every couple of weeks.






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That's a cute little guy. Can't you find a cheaper vet in your area?
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That's a cute little guy. Can't you find a cheaper vet in your area?
They shut down the cheaper one a while back. Not sure why.

It's kinda slim pickings around where I'm at I'm finding out.
Ghost of Jabroni 8/3/2014 8:35pm
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Currently my pup is doing just fine. No puking, no issues with diarrhea, active as ever.

I'm really starting to think it was the ferns he was chewing on got him a upset stomach.

The test results come back Tuesday. I will be surprised if he needs antibiotics.
Ghost of Jabroni 8/3/2014 8:36pm
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Ghost of Jabroni wrote:
One more question... How much should I be feeding the pup? I was kinda under the assumption that I should just let him eat, eat, and...
One more question...

How much should I be feeding the pup?

I was kinda under the assumption that I should just let him eat, eat, and eat some more while he's little and growing like he is. So I put food in his bowl and let him chow down. He'd eventually get full on the dry stuff and leave it alone for a couple hrs. But with this wet stuff, I don't think he'd stop if I just kept opening can after can. He really likes it. But there has to be a point where I could over feed him right?
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I let them eat for 15 minutes and then take the food bowl away (even if it's half full) I don't like lazy eaters 4 times...
I let them eat for 15 minutes and then take the food bowl away (even if it's half full) I don't like lazy eaters

4 times a day until 12 weeks
3 times a day 3 to 8 months

Some can eat anything and they never get upset stomachs but there is always a risk for twisted stomach when they are older
Ok, 15 minutes. I think he'd go thru the whole can in that time but if u say so.

And I just let him go until times up, no matter how much he's eating?
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steed 2.0 8/3/2014 11:03pm
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Ghost of Jabroni wrote:
Ok, 15 minutes. I think he'd go thru the whole can in that time but if u say so. And I just let him go until...
Ok, 15 minutes. I think he'd go thru the whole can in that time but if u say so.

And I just let him go until times up, no matter how much he's eating?
There is a wide variety of puppy food all with their own specific formula for puppies as nutrition can vary from brand to brand,
just follow feeding chart printed on the bag

for example 4 cups a day so you feed 1 cup per meal or 2 cups a day feed half cup per meal


gabrielmalinois 8/4/2014 6:55am
8/4/2014 6:55am
Ghost of Jabroni wrote:
Currently my pup is doing just fine. No puking, no issues with diarrhea, active as ever. I'm really starting to think it was the ferns he...
Currently my pup is doing just fine. No puking, no issues with diarrhea, active as ever.

I'm really starting to think it was the ferns he was chewing on got him a upset stomach.

The test results come back Tuesday. I will be surprised if he needs antibiotics.
Great to hear.
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Foghorn 8/5/2014 7:29am
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Ghost of Jabroni wrote:
Ok, 15 minutes. I think he'd go thru the whole can in that time but if u say so. And I just let him go until...
Ok, 15 minutes. I think he'd go thru the whole can in that time but if u say so.

And I just let him go until times up, no matter how much he's eating?
steed 2.0 wrote:
There is a wide variety of puppy food all with their own specific formula for puppies as nutrition can vary from brand to brand, just follow...
There is a wide variety of puppy food all with their own specific formula for puppies as nutrition can vary from brand to brand,
just follow feeding chart printed on the bag

for example 4 cups a day so you feed 1 cup per meal or 2 cups a day feed half cup per meal


Some good advice. I have a 17 week old Newfoundland right now. Feeding him as per the breeder's instructions with Frommes, Large Breed Puppy food. Until he was 12 weeks, he ate 2 cups, three times per day mixed with a quarter cup of water. He is now eating 2 cups, twice per day. Breeder says not to feed raw until he is fully grown (a year and a half) as too much protein can have adverse effects on the giant breeds such as the Newfoundland. Certainly lots of opinions out there but this is a very respected breeder so I will stick to what they say. He's growing like a zucchini and is about 65 lbs right now and seems to get visibly bigger every day!

Glad to hear that the OP's pup is doing OK.
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MR. X 8/5/2014 8:41am
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Good to hear the pup is gonna make it , ours gave us a scare awhile back . He was lazy and slow to move and the biggest concern was that his belly was bloated really bad . I was afraid he ate a cat toy or something was stuck in his intestines . We took him to the vet and judging from the x-rays and the empty bag of cat food in my fiances parents basement we concluded the fat bastard almost ate himself to death. He was completely filled with cat food .Here is the xray ,you can see all the pieces of food.

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steed 2.0 8/5/2014 10:44am
8/5/2014 10:44am Edited Date/Time 8/5/2014 10:49am
Foghorn wrote:
Some good advice. I have a 17 week old Newfoundland right now. Feeding him as per the breeder's instructions with Frommes, Large Breed Puppy food. Until...
Some good advice. I have a 17 week old Newfoundland right now. Feeding him as per the breeder's instructions with Frommes, Large Breed Puppy food. Until he was 12 weeks, he ate 2 cups, three times per day mixed with a quarter cup of water. He is now eating 2 cups, twice per day. Breeder says not to feed raw until he is fully grown (a year and a half) as too much protein can have adverse effects on the giant breeds such as the Newfoundland. Certainly lots of opinions out there but this is a very respected breeder so I will stick to what they say. He's growing like a zucchini and is about 65 lbs right now and seems to get visibly bigger every day!

Glad to hear that the OP's pup is doing OK.
It's not protein that might cause problems but phosphorus
Red meat scores high in phosphorus in some cases it speeds up the growth, chicken is safe
Tripe is good but has low nutritional value

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