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Fusion Center Study Finds 79% of Recent Mass Shootings Attributable to History of Mental Illness
There's also tons of other government docs & studies on this site in regards to mass shootings. publicintelligence.net
FBI/DOJ Doc.
https://publicintelligence.net/fbi-the-school-shooter-a-quick-reference…
If only there was a way to insure that all of our citizens would be assisted with mental illness and other health related issues.
Maybe a national system that would allow for periodic screenings for mental health and physical well being that might prevent these senseless tragedies?
Why can't we just forget about trying to outlaw guns and instead focus on a way to help the folks that may be a danger live a more healthy, safe and productive life?
Wouldn't that be a step in the right direction?
Who knows maybe after that focusing our energy and resources on educating all of our citizens in an effective way to sustain the country instead of trying to fleece them for money......
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So you agree that national healthcare is a good thing?
Might help combat other problems also. Crazy people do all sorts of stuff that disrupts society.
So tell me this;
Why are so many of the same folks that are so adamant about guns not being the problem not behind the idea of a national system to provide help to these people that would maybe prevent this crazy shit?
Nice post.
Guns are harmless unless in the hands of a crazy person...
But I would support it.
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I WAS blaming the people pulling the trigger and I never advocated taking away guns from anybody except those who are mentally unstable. You're flying off the handle and getting overly defensive. You'd rather ban a useful medicine for some people than restrict access to dangerous weapons to those who are known to be unstable. Somehow you see prescription medicine as being more dangerous than weapons. That's a pretty radical viewpoint.
You're so entrenched in your defense of gun ownership that you fail to see the valid instances where restriction of ownership makes sense. You do a disservice to your beliefs by being so radical in your views that you espouse logic to defend your viewpoint.
I'd like to be able to go and buy military grade explosives and use them like fireworks. I have no ill intention to harm anyone and explosives don't hurt people per se, but they can when they're used irresponsibly by people. However, these items are restricted. Yet somehow the world manages to still keep turning. I really don't know how since it's really so unfair that I cannot have what I want, Sure I can buy lesser explosives, but damnit, I want to blow up some serious stuff for shits and giggles and perhaps for a little home defense. Why oh why can I not have what I want? Life is sooooo unfair!
Weapons like drugs can be perfectly safe. Provided they're not being abused by someone who's detached from reality. It's the combination of instability and either drugs or weapons that causes the problem.
To blame the drugs wholesale, without appreciating that they have a benefit to many users, is dumb. When was the last time a gun helped a person through a bout with mental illness? There's many people who've used the drugs in question and experienced very positive effects. Just as the majority of people who use guns are not mass murders
I'm not sitting here saying that all guns are bad and need to be restricted. Just from those who are most likely to do harm. Your viewpoint seems to be that we need to make sure everybody is packing at all times with zero restrictions on who can carry a firearm.
So I guess by your reasoning we need to make sure that every inmate gets a brand new loaded weapon the day they're released from prison. Even if they're being released early on a number of firearm related criminal charges and/or murders. After all if we're going to advocate that the mentally unstable have every right to buy and carry firearms meant to be carried onto a battlefield, why should we have the power to restrict an ex con from owning one? They've paid their debt to society.
1) mentally unstable people do not need to be able to have guns, this much we all agree on. I work in an ER and in our small slice of heaven in west texas, I have about 6 very very dangerous schizophrenics that come to the ER and tell you directly they either want to kill themselver, or they want to kill someone else. there is no where to put them. no way to deal with them or incarcerate them. the best I can do is get a 24hr detention and then they go free. taking my guns does not fix this.
2) what's lost in all this is the number of firearms that are used to prevent crime and used to prevent violent assaults/murders which the DOJ estimates is about 500,000 per year. I find it interesting that some would take guns away because 3 people or even 20 people got shot by a psycho but seem so unconcerned about the 500,000.
3) I find it interesting that the UK leads the western world in the percentage of it's adult citizens that are the victim of a violent crime, nearly 44%.
4) so putting that all together perhaps the anti-gun nuts can understand why many cling to their "guns". it quickly becomes a "from my cold dead hands" situation when someone from somewhere else says my wife cannot protect herself or my seven kids from an intruder when I'm gone working overnight at the hospital. it's personal to me, she had to do it last year.
Back to your 44%. I don't have a clue where that comes from. However from Poverty.org the figure for violent crimes in the U.K. gave a victim count of a shade over 1.2 million in 2010/11 which is exactly half of what it was in 1995. Strangely, since we have no gun sales here there must be some other cause for the fall in crime. The Gun lobby in the States seem equate a similar fall in crime there to the rise in gun sales are they right? Or are they guilty of what they accuse others of doing, confusing correlation with causation.
I remember all you guys going back and forth on the subject and I thought this piece might be of interest to some of you.
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