Good liberal....

newmann
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Edited Date/Time 6/7/2014 8:09am
Moves to Austin and votes for every single tax increase ever and now complains she can't afford her taxes and will have to move. Bad thing is the dumbass will move somewhere else and do it all over again.

http://www.lovenorthaustin.com/new-page/surge-in-property-tax-bills-spu…

“I’m at the breaking point,” said Gretchen Gardner, an Austin artist who bought a 1930s bungalow in the Bouldin neighborhood just south of downtown in 1991 and has watched her property tax bill soar to $8,500 this year.

“It’s not because I don’t like paying taxes,” said Gardner, who attended both meetings. “I have voted for every park, every library, all the school improvements, for light rail, for anything that will make this city better. But now I can’t afford to live here anymore. I’ll protest my appraisal notice, but that’s not enough. Someone needs to step in and address the big picture.”
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Moves to Austin and votes for every single tax increase ever and now complains she can't afford her taxes and will have to move. Bad thing...
Moves to Austin and votes for every single tax increase ever and now complains she can't afford her taxes and will have to move. Bad thing is the dumbass will move somewhere else and do it all over again.

http://www.lovenorthaustin.com/new-page/surge-in-property-tax-bills-spu…

“I’m at the breaking point,” said Gretchen Gardner, an Austin artist who bought a 1930s bungalow in the Bouldin neighborhood just south of downtown in 1991 and has watched her property tax bill soar to $8,500 this year.

“It’s not because I don’t like paying taxes,” said Gardner, who attended both meetings. “I have voted for every park, every library, all the school improvements, for light rail, for anything that will make this city better. But now I can’t afford to live here anymore. I’ll protest my appraisal notice, but that’s not enough. Someone needs to step in and address the big picture.”
LOL...

That is so funny, it could be an SNL skit...maybe Jon Stewart should do a bit on this one....It is just dripping with satire...

That is what happens when a Lib finds out that they are the ones paying for all their tax hikes..."I'm taking my ball and going home...I'm not paying for all this stuff that I voted for". haha
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6/3/2014 2:28pm
It's the old "I'd hate to win the lottery because I'd have to pay taxes on all the money" argument. It's Austin, TX. She's complaining because her property value is skyrocketing and they're expecting her to pay for her valuable piece of land. Maybe she should move to the suburbs and take the light rail she voted for if she needs to go downtown?

The funny thing is the people that own the most land (farmers, ranchers etc.) pay very little in property taxes so maybe she should move to the country and raise some goats?
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6/3/2014 8:51pm
DDub8 wrote:
It's the old "I'd hate to win the lottery because I'd have to pay taxes on all the money" argument. It's Austin, TX. She's complaining because...
It's the old "I'd hate to win the lottery because I'd have to pay taxes on all the money" argument. It's Austin, TX. She's complaining because her property value is skyrocketing and they're expecting her to pay for her valuable piece of land. Maybe she should move to the suburbs and take the light rail she voted for if she needs to go downtown?

The funny thing is the people that own the most land (farmers, ranchers etc.) pay very little in property taxes so maybe she should move to the country and raise some goats?
So what if here property value is skyrocketing...that doesn't mean shit to someone who doesn't want to move.
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6/5/2014 1:41pm
It pains me to see people from California(or any other Blue state) moving to Texas. They move here and bitch about the high cost of living where they came from, yet praise TX for the affordable living and high number of jobs. Unfortunately, they're the very same people who go to the voting booth and vote for Dimocrats. These people will just never get it! Fugging idiots!!!

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6/5/2014 1:44pm Edited Date/Time 6/5/2014 1:47pm
RACERX69 wrote:
It pains me to see people from California(or any other Blue state) moving to Texas. They move here and bitch about the high cost of living...
It pains me to see people from California(or any other Blue state) moving to Texas. They move here and bitch about the high cost of living where they came from, yet praise TX for the affordable living and high number of jobs. Unfortunately, they're the very same people who go to the voting booth and vote for Dimocrats. These people will just never get it! Fugging idiots!!!
YUP! The California peeps that hated California and moved to Utah (because Utah is such a great place to live) are turning Utah into California by voting for the same crap they voted for in California (watch out Wyoming...as soon as they screw up Utah, you're next!) Utah is great because of the "values" (for lack of a better word) we have here...if you come here accept our values, do things the way we do them (which created a state that you LOVE) don't bring your values here and turn it into the place you left (because you hated it there).

I have the same feeling about Mexican immigrants...they hate mexico, so they come to America...and then rather than acclimate and do things the way Americans do things...they insist on doing things the way they did them in Mexico and are block by block turning communities into everything they hated about Mexico.


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6/5/2014 2:43pm
bsm121 wrote:
So what if here property value is skyrocketing...that doesn't mean shit to someone who doesn't want to move.
In some Canadian cities, the cities will offer either a lower tax rate or allow homeowners to defer some of their taxes until the property is sold to allow for seniors and others who qualify to remain in their homes as their property taxes increase.

It's not right to tax people off their land simply because they made a wise choice during their earning years and get denied the ability to retire in their homes because they can't afford the taxes on it.
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6/5/2014 7:11pm
RACERX69 wrote:
It pains me to see people from California(or any other Blue state) moving to Texas. They move here and bitch about the high cost of living...
It pains me to see people from California(or any other Blue state) moving to Texas. They move here and bitch about the high cost of living where they came from, yet praise TX for the affordable living and high number of jobs. Unfortunately, they're the very same people who go to the voting booth and vote for Dimocrats. These people will just never get it! Fugging idiots!!!
Bunch of morans.
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A key problem, critics say, is that the current system has shifted a disproportionate share of the burden of paying for schools and local services on homeowners, in favor of commercial and corporate interests who can afford to appeal their values and win big reductions year after year. The share of property taxes from homeowners to support public schools grew from 45 percent to 54 percent over a 12-year period, while commercial and industrial owners’ share has declined to less than 20 percent. (Other sectors, from oil and gas to personal property, make up the rest.)

Oil and gas "make up the rest?" Seems like putting the burden on the wrong people, no?

“The property tax system is a tried and tested workhorse that has consistently provided a reliable revenue stream for local government to provide the services taxpayers expect,” Amezquita said. “It has been overburdened by the Texas Legislature’s desire to give away ever greater tax breaks to big business and commercial interests by having them pay an ever-decreasing portion of their property taxes.


Have you even read the article that you linked?
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RACERX69 wrote:
It pains me to see people from California(or any other Blue state) moving to Texas. They move here and bitch about the high cost of living...
It pains me to see people from California(or any other Blue state) moving to Texas. They move here and bitch about the high cost of living where they came from, yet praise TX for the affordable living and high number of jobs. Unfortunately, they're the very same people who go to the voting booth and vote for Dimocrats. These people will just never get it! Fugging idiots!!!
DPR250R wrote:
Bunch of morans.
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6/6/2014 6:16am
$700 a month in taxes just to live in your own home....
newmann
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[i]A key problem, critics say, is that the current system has shifted a disproportionate share of the burden of paying for schools and local services on...
A key problem, critics say, is that the current system has shifted a disproportionate share of the burden of paying for schools and local services on homeowners, in favor of commercial and corporate interests who can afford to appeal their values and win big reductions year after year. The share of property taxes from homeowners to support public schools grew from 45 percent to 54 percent over a 12-year period, while commercial and industrial owners’ share has declined to less than 20 percent. (Other sectors, from oil and gas to personal property, make up the rest.)

Oil and gas "make up the rest?" Seems like putting the burden on the wrong people, no?

“The property tax system is a tried and tested workhorse that has consistently provided a reliable revenue stream for local government to provide the services taxpayers expect,” Amezquita said. “It has been overburdened by the Texas Legislature’s desire to give away ever greater tax breaks to big business and commercial interests by having them pay an ever-decreasing portion of their property taxes.


Have you even read the article that you linked?
Yes, and your point? I own a business in Texas and pay property tax on the land and building that I own as part of that business. I also pay State of Texas Franchise tax on the revenue that rolls through the doors as part of being incorporated here. And I also pay personal property tax each and every year on all of the shop equipment (that I own and paid sales tax on at time of purchase), desks and furnishings, computers, copiers and adding machines and anything that is used in the day to day operations of my business. I'm pretty much taxed out the ass. It makes me a little more aware of what I vote for.

Here locally in Beaumont, our local school district is the laughing stock of the country at the moment. They got almost 600 million passed in bond issues and stole, pissed away and embezzled millions upon millions of it on fraudulent contractors without bids, relatives with fake businesses set up, kick backs, and straight up depositing hundreds of thousands at a time to personal accounts. Our little district had the highest paid superintendent in the state. Friends and relatives of board members were getting hired to all kinds of duplicate positions. Now that all that "free" money is gone, there are 300 people with their jobs on the chopping block, mostly teachers, the ones furthest removed from the picture. Big picture? Yeah, there is a big picture, but also a whole lot of little thieves in the mix.

Hell, our last mayor and several members of city council ended up going to prison for the same scenarios with city monies. The city used to have a revolving low interest loan program for small businesses. Come to find out, I was one of very few who ever paid any back, let alone the fact that I was never late with a payment and actually paid ahead.

Businesses refuse to relocate and expand here due to the fact that the school district has become an epic failure. People are moving out of town and the tax base is dwindling.

As for you pointing out that oil and gas make up the rest? You realize that there is somewhere in the 40 plus cents per gallon tax on each and every gallon of gas you purchase. If the refinery pays that in advance, they'll just tack it to the price at the pump and the gubmint will still be grabbing their 40 cents on top of it as well. Big government at its best.
newmann
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$700 a month in taxes just to live in your own home....
Yep, house is paid for and that's just about my property tax.
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We pay about $700 a month also in taxes. They want to raise our assessment 12%.

My wife looked into this pretty close in our area. . They want to raise the assessments a higher % on more expensive properties than the cheaper ones. Makes no sense.

A good friend of mine is very conservative, he has three kids. He was all for our $450m school bond issue. I voted against it.

Most people support what is in their best interest.
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$700 a month in taxes just to live in your own home....
newmann wrote:
Yep, house is paid for and that's just about my property tax.
Texas doesn't sounds like a ridiculously expensive place to live.

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