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Old-Man 3/21/2014 2:46pm
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Clearly this is a case where the pilot was determined to kill himself along with the passengers but after he disabled the communication systems the plane...
Clearly this is a case where the pilot was determined to kill himself along with the passengers but after he disabled the communication systems the plane was hijacked and changed course towards a secret terrorist camp in Pakistan. After several hours the jet experienced mechanical failure and was in a nose dive when it was sucked into a vortex of the space-time continuum and a week later spit out somewhere off the coast of Australia. It was a "Perfect Storm".
Close, My OPINION is that he tried to kill himself then was overtaken by the co-pilot/navigator and did the U-turn then went down at a low altitude hoping to land and keep the plane intact. Unbeknownst to the Co-pilot that the pilot turned all devices off.

My question is why didn't any of the crew or passengers contact anybody since take-off?
Oh damn, that makes your "vortex of the space-time continuum" theory still in play.
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Old-Man 3/21/2014 2:52pm
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That Video is an eye opener
Ghost of Jabroni 3/21/2014 3:43pm
3/21/2014 3:43pm
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That Video is an eye opener
That Video is an eye opener
Ya it is.

Now we are led to believe that the way points could have been pre programmed into the nav, and most likely were.

Could the altitude changes have been pre programmed as well?
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reded 3/21/2014 4:41pm
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Old-Man wrote:
That Video is an eye opener
That Video is an eye opener
True that. Didn't look like he cared one way or the other and could have slipped into death happy as could be.

I hope when the bell tolls for me, I can go that comfortably.

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FlickitFlat 3/21/2014 5:52pm
3/21/2014 5:52pm
There is a call in show dedicated to this on Cirus 104. Should be about another hour left of it.
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the_wood109 3/21/2014 7:57pm
3/21/2014 7:57pm Edited Date/Time 3/21/2014 8:01pm
XXVoid MainXX wrote:
So my prediction, which is pretty boring: 1) The plane crashed into the ocean 2) It will be determined how/why the plane crashed and it will...
So my prediction, which is pretty boring:

1) The plane crashed into the ocean
2) It will be determined how/why the plane crashed and it will be due to some sort of mechanical/structural failure
3) It will not be terrorist related
4) No aliens will have been involved
5) The debris and the plane (what's left of it) will be found soon (not more than another week)
XXVoid MainXX wrote:
And I'm sticking by my original prediction which is "almost" a week old now.
TripleFive wrote:
I don't know how you can stick to your fourth point so adamantly.
It's the one that is the most probable given the information (or lack of.) There are many electrical/mechanical scenarios that provide more than plausible explanations.

The fact that people are so willing to jump to unsubstantiated conclusions shows the impact of the mainstream media reporting nothing but conspiracy theories to kill time.
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MXGooner 3/21/2014 8:16pm
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The AWACS takeover theory makes the most sense to me. Then, considering the NSA has the capability of tracking phone signals, yet their not reporting on any of them coincides with my opinion.
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the_wood109 3/21/2014 8:54pm
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MXGooner wrote:
The AWACS takeover theory makes the most sense to me. Then, considering the NSA has the capability of tracking phone signals, yet their not reporting on...
The AWACS takeover theory makes the most sense to me. Then, considering the NSA has the capability of tracking phone signals, yet their not reporting on any of them coincides with my opinion.
Well the NSA has been tracking almost everyone from many countries around the world for quite some time. Yet, their effectiveness is limited (or non-existant.) Given the sheer volume of data that they aquire, there is no possible way that they would even know it. They basically take everything they can, then sort it out later.

Then again, you're obviously just jumping to conclusions like most others are.
TripleFive 3/24/2014 7:41am
3/24/2014 7:41am
How did it get there!?
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SEE ARE125 3/24/2014 7:47am
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I just read that the area where debris was found is an area of the Indian Ocean where stuff collects due to the different currents, so who knows where exactly it went down. I'm still thinking something else is going on, and this is a cover up.
Ghost of Jabroni 3/24/2014 9:56am
3/24/2014 9:56am
The still dont have one shred of actual evidence that this plane crashed. Until they find the black box, I aint buying it.
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FastEddy 3/24/2014 10:08am
3/24/2014 10:08am Edited Date/Time 3/24/2014 10:11am
Ghost of Jabroni wrote:
The still dont have one shred of actual evidence that this plane crashed. Until they find the black box, I aint buying it.
Yep - they haven't confirmed one little piece of debris yet.
It's been what 3 weeks?
Then all of a sudden magically a British radar company/analyst says it went into the South Indian Ocean?
Where was this analyst 2 weeks ago or so?
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Old-Man 3/24/2014 10:51am
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Someone knows what the hell happened, just not releasing the motive just yet..This is going to be big. Just trying to figure out how to release...
Someone knows what the hell happened, just not releasing the motive just yet..This is going to be big. Just trying to figure out how to release it so to keep the panic to a minimum. Gonna be another lie like the False Flag attack.
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500guy 3/24/2014 7:18pm
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FastEddy wrote:
Yep - they haven't confirmed one little piece of debris yet. It's been what 3 weeks? Then all of a sudden magically a British radar company/analyst...
Yep - they haven't confirmed one little piece of debris yet.
It's been what 3 weeks?
Then all of a sudden magically a British radar company/analyst says it went into the South Indian Ocean?
Where was this analyst 2 weeks ago or so?
Waiting for the debris to sink ?

I totally think that it was confirmed hi-jacked and shot down. weather the people on board were already dead and exactly who shot it down is the big question.

after 9-11 no country is going to let a hi-jacked plane get near them.
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Racer92 3/24/2014 8:17pm
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That thing was either shot down or it was stolen. Or both.
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enketchum 3/24/2014 11:36pm
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Malaysia says it has crashed now, right? I can't tell.

FLIP FLOPPERS!!!
Motocross83 3/25/2014 1:21am
3/25/2014 1:21am Edited Date/Time 3/25/2014 8:41am
FastEddy wrote:
Yep - they haven't confirmed one little piece of debris yet. It's been what 3 weeks? Then all of a sudden magically a British radar company/analyst...
Yep - they haven't confirmed one little piece of debris yet.
It's been what 3 weeks?
Then all of a sudden magically a British radar company/analyst says it went into the South Indian Ocean?
Where was this analyst 2 weeks ago or so?
500guy wrote:
Waiting for the debris to sink ? I totally think that it was confirmed hi-jacked and shot down. weather the people on board were already dead...
Waiting for the debris to sink ?

I totally think that it was confirmed hi-jacked and shot down. weather the people on board were already dead and exactly who shot it down is the big question.

after 9-11 no country is going to let a hi-jacked plane get near them.
I think that's possible. America may have shot it down to prevent another 9/11 type scenario (which is perfectly reasonable imo because only more people will die otherwise) but of course in process killed many Chinese passengers, which obviously isn't good for relations. The Malaysians looked to have been caught in the middle since this happened, with pressure coming from both sides.
unknownmxr 3/25/2014 8:54pm
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Had to laugh at this:

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enketchum 3/26/2014 2:12am
3/26/2014 2:12am
At that angle, that doens't look like a 777. The gear racks look too short
gabrielmalinois 3/26/2014 7:01am
3/26/2014 7:01am
FastEddy wrote:
Yep - they haven't confirmed one little piece of debris yet. It's been what 3 weeks? Then all of a sudden magically a British radar company/analyst...
Yep - they haven't confirmed one little piece of debris yet.
It's been what 3 weeks?
Then all of a sudden magically a British radar company/analyst says it went into the South Indian Ocean?
Where was this analyst 2 weeks ago or so?
500guy wrote:
Waiting for the debris to sink ? I totally think that it was confirmed hi-jacked and shot down. weather the people on board were already dead...
Waiting for the debris to sink ?

I totally think that it was confirmed hi-jacked and shot down. weather the people on board were already dead and exactly who shot it down is the big question.

after 9-11 no country is going to let a hi-jacked plane get near them.
Motocross83 wrote:
I think that's possible. America may have shot it down to prevent another 9/11 type scenario (which is perfectly reasonable imo because only more people will...
I think that's possible. America may have shot it down to prevent another 9/11 type scenario (which is perfectly reasonable imo because only more people will die otherwise) but of course in process killed many Chinese passengers, which obviously isn't good for relations. The Malaysians looked to have been caught in the middle since this happened, with pressure coming from both sides.
Were the hijackers trying to take out McMurdo Station in Antarctica or what? If it was hijacked it certainly wasn't shot down. Everybody is trying to explain the unexplainable. Sometimes planes and ships just go missing. It very well could be a phenomenon outside of our space-time dimensional understanding
Motocross83 3/26/2014 9:21am
3/26/2014 9:21am
500guy wrote:
Waiting for the debris to sink ? I totally think that it was confirmed hi-jacked and shot down. weather the people on board were already dead...
Waiting for the debris to sink ?

I totally think that it was confirmed hi-jacked and shot down. weather the people on board were already dead and exactly who shot it down is the big question.

after 9-11 no country is going to let a hi-jacked plane get near them.
Motocross83 wrote:
I think that's possible. America may have shot it down to prevent another 9/11 type scenario (which is perfectly reasonable imo because only more people will...
I think that's possible. America may have shot it down to prevent another 9/11 type scenario (which is perfectly reasonable imo because only more people will die otherwise) but of course in process killed many Chinese passengers, which obviously isn't good for relations. The Malaysians looked to have been caught in the middle since this happened, with pressure coming from both sides.
gabrielmalinois wrote:
Were the hijackers trying to take out McMurdo Station in Antarctica or what? If it was hijacked it certainly wasn't shot down. Everybody is trying to...
Were the hijackers trying to take out McMurdo Station in Antarctica or what? If it was hijacked it certainly wasn't shot down. Everybody is trying to explain the unexplainable. Sometimes planes and ships just go missing. It very well could be a phenomenon outside of our space-time dimensional understanding
A possible target may have been the American base at Diego Garcia. If it were a suspected hijacking heading roughly towards them, then yes they would shoot it down.
gabrielmalinois 3/26/2014 10:04am
3/26/2014 10:04am
Motocross83 wrote:
I think that's possible. America may have shot it down to prevent another 9/11 type scenario (which is perfectly reasonable imo because only more people will...
I think that's possible. America may have shot it down to prevent another 9/11 type scenario (which is perfectly reasonable imo because only more people will die otherwise) but of course in process killed many Chinese passengers, which obviously isn't good for relations. The Malaysians looked to have been caught in the middle since this happened, with pressure coming from both sides.
gabrielmalinois wrote:
Were the hijackers trying to take out McMurdo Station in Antarctica or what? If it was hijacked it certainly wasn't shot down. Everybody is trying to...
Were the hijackers trying to take out McMurdo Station in Antarctica or what? If it was hijacked it certainly wasn't shot down. Everybody is trying to explain the unexplainable. Sometimes planes and ships just go missing. It very well could be a phenomenon outside of our space-time dimensional understanding
Motocross83 wrote:
A possible target may have been the American base at Diego Garcia. If it were a suspected hijacking heading roughly towards them, then yes they would...
A possible target may have been the American base at Diego Garcia. If it were a suspected hijacking heading roughly towards them, then yes they would shoot it down.
But it isn't near Diego Garcia, All indications is that it was headed to Antarctica. If a hijacked plane full of Chinese nationals was going to hit Diego Garcia certainly the US would shoot it down, but there wouldn't be any reason to cover it up.
Motocross83 3/26/2014 11:22am
3/26/2014 11:22am Edited Date/Time 3/26/2014 11:28am
gabrielmalinois wrote:
Were the hijackers trying to take out McMurdo Station in Antarctica or what? If it was hijacked it certainly wasn't shot down. Everybody is trying to...
Were the hijackers trying to take out McMurdo Station in Antarctica or what? If it was hijacked it certainly wasn't shot down. Everybody is trying to explain the unexplainable. Sometimes planes and ships just go missing. It very well could be a phenomenon outside of our space-time dimensional understanding
Motocross83 wrote:
A possible target may have been the American base at Diego Garcia. If it were a suspected hijacking heading roughly towards them, then yes they would...
A possible target may have been the American base at Diego Garcia. If it were a suspected hijacking heading roughly towards them, then yes they would shoot it down.
gabrielmalinois wrote:
But it isn't near Diego Garcia, All indications is that it was headed to Antarctica. If a hijacked plane full of Chinese nationals was going to...
But it isn't near Diego Garcia, All indications is that it was headed to Antarctica. If a hijacked plane full of Chinese nationals was going to hit Diego Garcia certainly the US would shoot it down, but there wouldn't be any reason to cover it up.
What is suspicious and indicates that they didn't want the wreckage to be found is the way in which Malaysia was directing the search in completely the wrong direction when apparently they already knew that the plane had turned at right angles to its original flight path. This appears to be what made the Chinese so angry - in fact Malaysia has been acting very cagey since this whole thing began. On top of that, if it's true that they intentionally turned off their beacons, then this does also lean toward being a terrorist incident. As for where the plane was heading exactly, why it changed course and where it really ended up, that of course is an unknown at this point. America certainly wouldn't be in a hurry to admit shooting it down, even with good reason (and I agree it is). Can you imagine China shooting down a plane full of American citizens for similar reasons? Regardless of the rights or wrongs it's going to create a huge amount of unwanted tension.
gabrielmalinois 3/26/2014 11:38am
3/26/2014 11:38am
Motocross83 wrote:
A possible target may have been the American base at Diego Garcia. If it were a suspected hijacking heading roughly towards them, then yes they would...
A possible target may have been the American base at Diego Garcia. If it were a suspected hijacking heading roughly towards them, then yes they would shoot it down.
gabrielmalinois wrote:
But it isn't near Diego Garcia, All indications is that it was headed to Antarctica. If a hijacked plane full of Chinese nationals was going to...
But it isn't near Diego Garcia, All indications is that it was headed to Antarctica. If a hijacked plane full of Chinese nationals was going to hit Diego Garcia certainly the US would shoot it down, but there wouldn't be any reason to cover it up.
Motocross83 wrote:
What is suspicious and indicates that they didn't want the wreckage to be found is the way in which Malaysia was directing the search in completely...
What is suspicious and indicates that they didn't want the wreckage to be found is the way in which Malaysia was directing the search in completely the wrong direction when apparently they already knew that the plane had turned at right angles to its original flight path. This appears to be what made the Chinese so angry - in fact Malaysia has been acting very cagey since this whole thing began. On top of that, if it's true that they intentionally turned off their beacons, then this does also lean toward being a terrorist incident. As for where the plane was heading exactly, why it changed course and where it really ended up, that of course is an unknown at this point. America certainly wouldn't be in a hurry to admit shooting it down, even with good reason (and I agree it is). Can you imagine China shooting down a plane full of American citizens for similar reasons? Regardless of the rights or wrongs it's going to create a huge amount of unwanted tension.
It is definitely suspicious and it is hard to say if Malaysia is trying to cover up something they know or if they are just incompetent and trying to save face, but there is no reason to believe it was shot down. If the US did shoot it down China would find that out sooner or later, which would be worse than the incident itself.
Ghost of Jabroni 3/26/2014 12:23pm
3/26/2014 12:23pm
Malaysia has been horrible in their handling of this since day one. And I think they should be the prime suspect above anyone else until proven otherwise.

That said, here is what we know, this wasnt some mechanical failure. The communications equipment HAD TO have been shut off on purpose. There was foul play and that is all we know at that point.

The plane flew up to 45k ft, but we dont know who did that or why. It's a fly by wire plane that had pre-coordinated waypoints programmed in (when and by whom we also dont know) so I very well could have been under remote control. The pilots job was to disconnect communications and then he and everyone else was put under by hypoxia.

We know there were Freescale employees on that flight and the media isnt touching that subject, which should be very telling.

And we know that the last actual known direction that plane was headed was Northwest.

All this BS about the flight being near Antartica is still completely unsubstantiated and makes less sense than most theories.

That plane is either in Pakistan, Diego Garcia, or Malaysia knows where it is and what happened and aint telling.
gabrielmalinois 3/26/2014 12:53pm
3/26/2014 12:53pm
I think it is unlikely that China would commit 5 ships and 3 planes to search down there if they did not have very good reason to think that is where the wreckage is. A more likely scenario than it was shot down or stolen is that it was sucked into a vortex of the space-continuum and then re·emerged in the S. Indian Ocean without fuel and crashed.
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Sunhouse 3/26/2014 3:06pm
3/26/2014 3:06pm Edited Date/Time 3/27/2014 10:16am
enketchum wrote:
At that angle, that doens't look like a 777. The gear racks look too short
That´s because the picture is of a 737. Wink

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