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bturner26x 8/16/2013 5:55pm
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Sandberm wrote:
10,000 square foot house in California. I had no idea he had done that well. Allllllllllllll that money and he couldn't keep his word to Andrew...
10,000 square foot house in California. I had no idea he had done that well.

Allllllllllllll that money and he couldn't keep his word to Andrew Short?
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why would MC waste his money on a mid pack guy?
Agreed, especially if the sponsor money wasn't there. Was there ever a clear answer why they closed up, I can't really recall. I thought they were having issues w/ their title sponsor Chaparral and thats why just called the team Supercross.com. No title sponsor. If they couldn't do it right, they weren't going to do it at all and I don't blame them.
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velocitygear 8/16/2013 6:15pm
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Wish we knew how it really went down. Not a fan of anyone screwing riders who put their asses on the line. Figured it was more of a LB issues since he jas been known to do riders like that, or so they say...

and of course, Andrew Short being the class act he is, won't say a word....
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Sandberm 8/16/2013 6:47pm
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10,000 square foot house in California. I had no idea he had done that well. Allllllllllllll that money and he couldn't keep his word to Andrew...
10,000 square foot house in California. I had no idea he had done that well.

Allllllllllllll that money and he couldn't keep his word to Andrew Short?
DocMarten wrote:
why would MC waste his money on a mid pack guy?
Because he told him he would in the form of a signed contract. I assume there was a good old fashioned handshake to boot.

It seems, judging by that property Jeremy owns, that to fund Andrew for the full year would have been a drop in the bucket to Jeremys net worth. They didn't have to have a Cadillac setup, just a good bike, a salary, some sort of SIMPLE truck and support crew and fly and hotel Short to the races. At the end of 2013 call it quits.

We all remember Andrew scrambling to get a bike and set it up the week before Oakland and how stressfull that was for him.
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velocitygear 8/16/2013 6:53pm
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I'd prefer to put this in LB's court, considering MC's wife's situation and what goes along with all of that, especially financially. I'd hate to think of MC in the same way as we do LB. That would really suck! One in the same? Have no idea....

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KINGRV1 8/16/2013 7:17pm
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Sandberm wrote:
10,000 square foot house in California. I had no idea he had done that well. Allllllllllllll that money and he couldn't keep his word to Andrew...
10,000 square foot house in California. I had no idea he had done that well.

Allllllllllllll that money and he couldn't keep his word to Andrew Short?
DocMarten wrote:
why would MC waste his money on a mid pack guy?
Because he signed a contract?
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Sandberm wrote:
10,000 square foot house in California. I had no idea he had done that well. Allllllllllllll that money and he couldn't keep his word to Andrew...
10,000 square foot house in California. I had no idea he had done that well.

Allllllllllllll that money and he couldn't keep his word to Andrew Short?
DocMarten wrote:
why would MC waste his money on a mid pack guy?
Sandberm wrote:
Because he told him he would in the form of a signed contract. I assume there was a good old fashioned handshake to boot. It seems...
Because he told him he would in the form of a signed contract. I assume there was a good old fashioned handshake to boot.

It seems, judging by that property Jeremy owns, that to fund Andrew for the full year would have been a drop in the bucket to Jeremys net worth. They didn't have to have a Cadillac setup, just a good bike, a salary, some sort of SIMPLE truck and support crew and fly and hotel Short to the races. At the end of 2013 call it quits.

We all remember Andrew scrambling to get a bike and set it up the week before Oakland and how stressfull that was for him.
So because he is rich, he should keep funding a business venture that went bad?

Yes he went into a business agreement with the team, and the team signed contracts with sponsors, and signed contracts with riders (Short).

So because sponsors pull the plug (breaking contracts), MC himself should personally fund the team? Great way to end up broke.

Sad to see someone as humble as MC, willing to open his home to the internet public, and he gets blasted for a business decision that went south due to no fault of his own. And then we wonder why this sport is so secretive...

Oldfart should be here soon to tell us how MC is bad and Obama will bail us all out.
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The 420 house.

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DocMarten 8/16/2013 8:27pm
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DocMarten wrote:
why would MC waste his money on a mid pack guy?
Sandberm wrote:
Because he told him he would in the form of a signed contract. I assume there was a good old fashioned handshake to boot. It seems...
Because he told him he would in the form of a signed contract. I assume there was a good old fashioned handshake to boot.

It seems, judging by that property Jeremy owns, that to fund Andrew for the full year would have been a drop in the bucket to Jeremys net worth. They didn't have to have a Cadillac setup, just a good bike, a salary, some sort of SIMPLE truck and support crew and fly and hotel Short to the races. At the end of 2013 call it quits.

We all remember Andrew scrambling to get a bike and set it up the week before Oakland and how stressfull that was for him.
AZ35 wrote:
So because he is rich, he should keep funding a business venture that went bad? Yes he went into a business agreement with the team, and...
So because he is rich, he should keep funding a business venture that went bad?

Yes he went into a business agreement with the team, and the team signed contracts with sponsors, and signed contracts with riders (Short).

So because sponsors pull the plug (breaking contracts), MC himself should personally fund the team? Great way to end up broke.

Sad to see someone as humble as MC, willing to open his home to the internet public, and he gets blasted for a business decision that went south due to no fault of his own. And then we wonder why this sport is so secretive...

Oldfart should be here soon to tell us how MC is bad and Obama will bail us all out.
x2!! nice to see someone with some sense around here

look, i think andrew short is a great guy and an awesome racer but hes not going to win and hes on the tail end of his career. MC had no reason to waste money on a failing venture with a mid pack racer

pro sports is a business and this shouldn't have been treated any differently
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musmanni 8/16/2013 8:41pm
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Sandberm wrote:
10,000 square foot house in California. I had no idea he had done that well. Allllllllllllll that money and he couldn't keep his word to Andrew...
10,000 square foot house in California. I had no idea he had done that well.

Allllllllllllll that money and he couldn't keep his word to Andrew Short?
DocMarten wrote:
why would MC waste his money on a mid pack guy?
KINGRV1 wrote:
Because he signed a contract?
How many business men fund businesses with their own personal money? I am sure MC, Brooks, and anybody else involved were operating under a LLC or some other vehicle to protect their personal wealth.
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velocitygear 8/16/2013 8:56pm
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Seems like nobody knows what INTEGRITY is anymore. Stiffing people in the name of "business" is a low life, shitty mentality and I hope people who live like that get what they deserve!

If a damn contract was signed then there is NO EXCUSE for stiffing Short REGARDLESS of his performance. They knew he was a midpack guy but he's also a midpack guy in the toughest series on the fucking planet! Enabling thieves by calling it "bussiness" is utter bullshit!

Not saying Mc is either but I can't stand the bullshit "business" excuses I read on here! "Business" will never be a good reason to be a half assed, lying, cheating scumbag!

Again, not saying that's MC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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There's a guy on twitter who purchased for a good sum of $ a ride day with MC the proceeds I think went towards the cancer thing he did. Well the guy can't get in touch with MC or his publicist they aren't returning his calls. Now like the Shorty thing that is just Jacked up
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hvaughn88 8/17/2013 4:34am
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There's a guy on twitter who purchased for a good sum of $ a ride day with MC the proceeds I think went towards the cancer...
There's a guy on twitter who purchased for a good sum of $ a ride day with MC the proceeds I think went towards the cancer thing he did. Well the guy can't get in touch with MC or his publicist they aren't returning his calls. Now like the Shorty thing that is just Jacked up
I really, really, desperately hope there is more to the story than that. I grew up/started racing during his prime and absolutely loved him. To this day he is still the only rider I have posters of hanging in my shop. Even my autographed Ricky posters are rolled up and in a closet. I have always looked up to him more for his down to earth, human demeanor in addition to his revolutionary skills on a motorcycle. It would be a huge letdown if he turned out to be a prick, just like so many have.
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41NDT 8/17/2013 4:48am
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There's a guy on twitter who purchased for a good sum of $ a ride day with MC the proceeds I think went towards the cancer...
There's a guy on twitter who purchased for a good sum of $ a ride day with MC the proceeds I think went towards the cancer thing he did. Well the guy can't get in touch with MC or his publicist they aren't returning his calls. Now like the Shorty thing that is just Jacked up
hvaughn88 wrote:
I really, really, desperately hope there is more to the story than that. I grew up/started racing during his prime and absolutely loved him. To this...
I really, really, desperately hope there is more to the story than that. I grew up/started racing during his prime and absolutely loved him. To this day he is still the only rider I have posters of hanging in my shop. Even my autographed Ricky posters are rolled up and in a closet. I have always looked up to him more for his down to earth, human demeanor in addition to his revolutionary skills on a motorcycle. It would be a huge letdown if he turned out to be a prick, just like so many have.
I think the prob is that it's all done through the Publicist. The guy knows it will happen but is getting frustrated.
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Sandberm 8/17/2013 5:38am
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DocMarten wrote:
why would MC waste his money on a mid pack guy?
Sandberm wrote:
Because he told him he would in the form of a signed contract. I assume there was a good old fashioned handshake to boot. It seems...
Because he told him he would in the form of a signed contract. I assume there was a good old fashioned handshake to boot.

It seems, judging by that property Jeremy owns, that to fund Andrew for the full year would have been a drop in the bucket to Jeremys net worth. They didn't have to have a Cadillac setup, just a good bike, a salary, some sort of SIMPLE truck and support crew and fly and hotel Short to the races. At the end of 2013 call it quits.

We all remember Andrew scrambling to get a bike and set it up the week before Oakland and how stressfull that was for him.
AZ35 wrote:
So because he is rich, he should keep funding a business venture that went bad? Yes he went into a business agreement with the team, and...
So because he is rich, he should keep funding a business venture that went bad?

Yes he went into a business agreement with the team, and the team signed contracts with sponsors, and signed contracts with riders (Short).

So because sponsors pull the plug (breaking contracts), MC himself should personally fund the team? Great way to end up broke.

Sad to see someone as humble as MC, willing to open his home to the internet public, and he gets blasted for a business decision that went south due to no fault of his own. And then we wonder why this sport is so secretive...

Oldfart should be here soon to tell us how MC is bad and Obama will bail us all out.
I agree, I wouldn't go broke funding Andrew Short or any other rider either. Its just after seeing that lavish house I came to the conclusion that to keep his end of the deal with Andrew wouldn't have put much of a dent in MCs net worth.

I guess we should blame Scott Witt of the now defunct Langston/Witt team for helping me feel the way I do. His team folded and what did he do? He kept his end of the deal with Les Smith by providing everything he said he would and found a good transport for him in BTO Sports KTM.

On a personal note, back in 2008 I signed contracts to sell product to a couple of buyers. When the market collapsed the value of the product went down by half, yet these buyers...who were the ones to offer me the deals in the first place... kept their word and paid me the original contract price we agreed on. THEY WILL FOREVER HAVE MY LOYALTY, as I know their word and thus their integrity is well and good.

I'm sure Jeremy is a great guy,. I admire the hell out of him, but after seeing that incredible house I'm just left feeling something could have been done for Andrew.
vanillaice782 8/17/2013 6:48am
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Sandberm wrote:
Because he told him he would in the form of a signed contract. I assume there was a good old fashioned handshake to boot. It seems...
Because he told him he would in the form of a signed contract. I assume there was a good old fashioned handshake to boot.

It seems, judging by that property Jeremy owns, that to fund Andrew for the full year would have been a drop in the bucket to Jeremys net worth. They didn't have to have a Cadillac setup, just a good bike, a salary, some sort of SIMPLE truck and support crew and fly and hotel Short to the races. At the end of 2013 call it quits.

We all remember Andrew scrambling to get a bike and set it up the week before Oakland and how stressfull that was for him.
AZ35 wrote:
So because he is rich, he should keep funding a business venture that went bad? Yes he went into a business agreement with the team, and...
So because he is rich, he should keep funding a business venture that went bad?

Yes he went into a business agreement with the team, and the team signed contracts with sponsors, and signed contracts with riders (Short).

So because sponsors pull the plug (breaking contracts), MC himself should personally fund the team? Great way to end up broke.

Sad to see someone as humble as MC, willing to open his home to the internet public, and he gets blasted for a business decision that went south due to no fault of his own. And then we wonder why this sport is so secretive...

Oldfart should be here soon to tell us how MC is bad and Obama will bail us all out.
Sandberm wrote:
I agree, I wouldn't go broke funding Andrew Short or any other rider either. Its just after seeing that lavish house I came to the conclusion...
I agree, I wouldn't go broke funding Andrew Short or any other rider either. Its just after seeing that lavish house I came to the conclusion that to keep his end of the deal with Andrew wouldn't have put much of a dent in MCs net worth.

I guess we should blame Scott Witt of the now defunct Langston/Witt team for helping me feel the way I do. His team folded and what did he do? He kept his end of the deal with Les Smith by providing everything he said he would and found a good transport for him in BTO Sports KTM.

On a personal note, back in 2008 I signed contracts to sell product to a couple of buyers. When the market collapsed the value of the product went down by half, yet these buyers...who were the ones to offer me the deals in the first place... kept their word and paid me the original contract price we agreed on. THEY WILL FOREVER HAVE MY LOYALTY, as I know their word and thus their integrity is well and good.

I'm sure Jeremy is a great guy,. I admire the hell out of him, but after seeing that incredible house I'm just left feeling something could have been done for Andrew.
Jeremy can afford that house because he is smart enough to pull the plug on something that isn't going to make him money. How many other teams have folded in recent years?
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velocitygear 8/17/2013 11:34am
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AZ35 wrote:
So because he is rich, he should keep funding a business venture that went bad? Yes he went into a business agreement with the team, and...
So because he is rich, he should keep funding a business venture that went bad?

Yes he went into a business agreement with the team, and the team signed contracts with sponsors, and signed contracts with riders (Short).

So because sponsors pull the plug (breaking contracts), MC himself should personally fund the team? Great way to end up broke.

Sad to see someone as humble as MC, willing to open his home to the internet public, and he gets blasted for a business decision that went south due to no fault of his own. And then we wonder why this sport is so secretive...

Oldfart should be here soon to tell us how MC is bad and Obama will bail us all out.
Sandberm wrote:
I agree, I wouldn't go broke funding Andrew Short or any other rider either. Its just after seeing that lavish house I came to the conclusion...
I agree, I wouldn't go broke funding Andrew Short or any other rider either. Its just after seeing that lavish house I came to the conclusion that to keep his end of the deal with Andrew wouldn't have put much of a dent in MCs net worth.

I guess we should blame Scott Witt of the now defunct Langston/Witt team for helping me feel the way I do. His team folded and what did he do? He kept his end of the deal with Les Smith by providing everything he said he would and found a good transport for him in BTO Sports KTM.

On a personal note, back in 2008 I signed contracts to sell product to a couple of buyers. When the market collapsed the value of the product went down by half, yet these buyers...who were the ones to offer me the deals in the first place... kept their word and paid me the original contract price we agreed on. THEY WILL FOREVER HAVE MY LOYALTY, as I know their word and thus their integrity is well and good.

I'm sure Jeremy is a great guy,. I admire the hell out of him, but after seeing that incredible house I'm just left feeling something could have been done for Andrew.
vanillaice782 wrote:
Jeremy can afford that house because he is smart enough to pull the plug on something that isn't going to make him money. How many other...
Jeremy can afford that house because he is smart enough to pull the plug on something that isn't going to make him money. How many other teams have folded in recent years?
We'll just assume MC didn't have a contract with Short; if he did, SMART isn't the correct word/words!
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Earned every penny of it and then some. Kudos to him. He spanked every rider for years.

That has is insane. Not a big fan of the decorations and decor-love his side of the house and the outside though.

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