Bubba's neighbor?

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Edited Date/Time 1/21/2012 10:25am
A Florida man was arrested after allegedly going on a violent rampage after a minor fender-bender, slashing and stabbing the occupants of a car, then running over and killing a woman who had been riding in another nearby vehicle.

Casey Weldon Till, 26, of Haines City, faces murder and carjacking charges after the attacks involving family members traveling in two vehicles.

The Polk County Sheriff's Office tracked Till to his home through a pill bottle left at the scene late Sunday night. Police allege that he killed Odalis Cespedes, 41, by running her over twice. Till told police he was high on crack at the time.

The violence apparently unfolded after Till's minivan slammed into a stopped car being driven by Cespedes' daughter, 19-year-old Ivon Despaigne, and her boyfriend, 21-year-old Angel Gonzalez, of Kissimmee. When the couple got out to check the damage, Till allegedly slashed Gonzalez's throat and stabbed Despaigne in the neck.

Investigators say Till then got into the couple's car and repeatedly rammed the vehicle ahead, occupied by Cespedes, her husband, 41-year-old Mario Despaigne, and their 6-month-old granddaughter.

The couple got their granddaughter out of the car seat and Cespedes was trying to flee with the baby in her arms when she was killed, Mario Despaigne said in an interview with The Ledger, which was conducted through an interpreter.

Mario Despaigne said Till drove over his wife's leg, then ran over her again after seeing she was still moving. Despaigne said he grabbed the baby. Then Gonzalez got into Till's van and hit him, then tried to back over him, but Till rolled out of the way, according to the arrest report.

Till then allegedly ran back to his van, ignoring commands to stop from a Lake Hamilton police officer who happened upon the scene. Till sped off, hitting officer David Hurst in the arm and midsection with the van's open door.

Till had locked himself in his bathroom and cut his wrists by the time investigators found him, the report said. He allegedly admitted the attacks to his wife and mother.

The police report listed Gonzalez and Ivon Despaigne in critical condition, but a local hospital would not provide information about their condition Tuesday.

Till was being held Tuesday in the Polk County Jail on charges of murder, attempted murder, aggravated battery on a law enforcement officer, carjacking and improper exhibition of a weapon. It was not immediately known if Till had an attorney.

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8/20/2008 7:11am
The cop should have shot him right there...or left him to bleed out in his bathroom.

What a sick fuck!!

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8/20/2008 7:18am
huck wrote:
The cop should have shot him right there...or left him to bleed out in his bathroom.

What a sick fuck!!

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8/20/2008 11:14am
talk about wrong place at wrong time.

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8/20/2008 11:33am
Lake Hamilton Police Department Officer David Hurst was en route to work Sunday night when he came upon the scene.

Hurst was trying to help the family when Till returned. Hurst unholstered a .45-caliber handgun, positioned himself at Till's front driver's side door and demanded Till exit the minivan.

Till didn't obey. He revved the engine, put the minivan in gear and drove off, striking Hurst's arm and body with the vehicle's open door, according to the affidavit. The officer wasn't hurt.


http://www2.tbo.com/content/2008/aug/19/man-jailed-attack-family-told-m…

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8/20/2008 11:38am
What is the deal with all the throat slashing lately ? Death penalty laws need to be changed . You die just like your victim .
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8/20/2008 12:12pm
I don't understand how the officer didn't at least get a couple shots off. He already knew this was a cold blooded killer.

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8/20/2008 1:18pm
Think he could be hired to take care of the newb's?
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8/20/2008 2:27pm
huck wrote:
I don't understand how the officer didn't at least get a couple shots off. He already knew this was a cold blooded killer.

Havent you figured it out by now?
Cops usually only shoot unarmed men.
http://www.filecabi.net/video/goddammit30.html
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8/20/2008 3:10pm
huck wrote:
I don't understand how the officer didn't at least get a couple shots off. He already knew this was a cold blooded killer.

FastEddy wrote:
Havent you figured it out by now? Cops usually only shoot unarmed men. http://www.filecabi.net/video/goddammit30.html
Havent you figured it out by now?
Cops usually only shoot unarmed men.
http://www.filecabi.net/video/goddammit30.html
I'd heard about that but never saw the video.....Good god man what a bunch of trigger happy rookies...


What happens after all the shooting is the most disturbing...they didn't give two shits whether he was alive or not...
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8/20/2008 6:46pm
huck wrote:
I don't understand how the officer didn't at least get a couple shots off. He already knew this was a cold blooded killer.

FastEddy wrote:
Havent you figured it out by now? Cops usually only shoot unarmed men. http://www.filecabi.net/video/goddammit30.html
Havent you figured it out by now?
Cops usually only shoot unarmed men.
http://www.filecabi.net/video/goddammit30.html
An unarmed man who threatened to shot everyone on scene. He was hiding his right arm the entire time claiming to have a gun, he knew they would shot if he fooled them into thinking he had a gun. He commited suicide by cop. That was his decission to end his own life, if he would have complied he would still be alive, or at least would have walked away from that incident.

Rookie or vet, how long will you sit across from a man who in your opinion has a gun and is telling you he will shot you, all the while knowing this could be the last breath you take should he decide to make that move? If a man is telling me he is going to shot me, I belive him. If you dont, you are a fool.
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8/20/2008 7:04pm
They didn't have to let the dog go...… How long did the whole thing last? They had him blinded by light and he was negotiating with them...although he didn't have a gun, he threatened to shoot if they let the dogs go...Why the fuck then would you let the dog go after, what, 5 minutes...knowing that the situation will more than likely escalate. The perp never made a move...

Give me a break…a fucking elementary school counselor could have talked that guy down...

The dumbass cop sicked the dog on him and he threw a shoe at it...BOOM...dog never even made it up the steps to the guy before he was shot also...81 shots...


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8/21/2008 12:00pm
Where is the article that said they were on scene negotiating for 5 minutes or are you speaking of the lenght of the video and does the video shot all 81 shots or is that what you read in the caption?

Ask a few questions: Why were they there in the first place, how long had they been on scene before the video started, did they know who they were dealing with prior to the call, does the guy have a history of violence, had they ever been to this location before.....allquestions that should be answered before making an opinion I should think. You have the answers to these questions or are you going off what you got out of the video?
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8/21/2008 12:29pm
Sorry, 40 or so minutes total...

I'm simply basing my opinion on the video...The guy never made a move and was talking to them... From what I see, there was absolutely no reason to let the dog go...

Why did they let the dog go?...from wiki...

"after nearly a half hour of unsuccessful negotiations between Brunston and police, one of the officers called the K9 Department Head, Lieutenant Patrick Maxwell, who, from his cell phone at a party, issued a firm order to release the K9 police dog upon the suspect. A few minutes later and practically all at the same time, the K9 dog sprinted toward Brunston, Brunston tossed the flip-flop at the dog, the police open fired at the suspect (they shot at him 81 times) and a split second before the K-9 attacked the retreating suspect, the K-9 was shot (and stopped) by flying police bullets."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deandre_Brunston
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8/21/2008 1:16pm
That is a very sad ending to what could have been easily prevented. All the guy had to do is follow the requests by the police officers.
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8/21/2008 3:41pm
huck wrote:
That is a very sad ending to what could have been easily prevented. All the guy had to do is follow the requests by the police...
That is a very sad ending to what could have been easily prevented. All the guy had to do is follow the requests by the police officers.
Agreed huck. In the end, a cop doesn’t want to take a life and the best out come would be for the “bad guy” to give up. No one leaves their family in the morning/night, hoping they get into a gunfight or shoot situation. Why don’t they just give up? You know how many times I have asked that question?

We just had a stand off here last week where the man was taunting the Swat team (Giving the come here motions with his hand, shooting the bird). Negotiations lasted for two hours and it was evident that the guy was not going to give up. In theory, the swat team had to go in and get the guy out unharmed, in reality, the guy did not want to come out peacefully. The guy never said a word to negotiators during this time, only the hand gestures.

As the swat team went up to put gas in, the guy shot at them hitting one. Needless to say, it ended badly for both the team and the bad guy. One team member hit and bad guy dead. It was 45 minutes from the first shot to the last.

I guess the point I am trying to make is, these bad guys know what the end result will be if they say or make an action that threatens the life of anyone. This is why it is suicide by cop not to give up. He forced their hand.

As far as letting the dog go, he was told it would happen for 40 minutes. That’s 40 minutes he had to sit and think about it before it happened. Agencies vary on tactics due to the size of an agency and how busy they are. If this was an active department, they may cant wait more then that to handle a situation like this because of call volume and manpower. It sucks to have more then one stand off at a time!

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