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Edited Date/Time 1/24/2012 4:57am
NASCAR finds cheating after Nationwide race
By MIKE HARRIS, AP Auto Racing Writer


Buzz Up PrintBROOKLYN, Mich. (AP)—The two Joe Gibbs Racing cars that have dominated the Nationwide Series this season likely will face stiff NASCAR sanctions after team members were caught deliberately trying to mask the horsepower in their powerful engines.

NASCAR inspectors found magnets under the gas pedals of the No. 18 and No. 20 Toyota’s when the cars were sent to the chassis dyno following Saturday’s race at Michigan International Speedway. Tony Stewart finished third in the No. 20 in his final Nationwide race for JGR, and Joey Logano was seventh in the No. 18.

The two cars have combined to win 14 of Toyota’s 15 victories in 25 Nationwide races this season. To temper the domination, NASCAR last month ordered all Toyota teams to cut about 15 horsepower in their motors.

NASCAR vice president of competition Robin Pemberton said the magnets were a quarter-inch thick and their placement was an attempt to hide how much horsepower the Gibbs motors still have even after the rule change.

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“The intention was to manipulate the numbers that we get when we get our information and data off the dyno,” Pemberton said.

Joe Gibbs Racing president J.D. Gibbs said he and his father, owner Joe Gibbs, had no prior knowledge
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j100
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8/17/2008 7:51pm
pretty gnar.
Racer92
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8/17/2008 7:52pm
No big deal. All circle track racers cheat. All of them, asphalt or dirt. Always have - always will. Call it a unspoken tradition.

Sometimes you get busted, sometimes not.
Void Main
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8/17/2008 8:02pm
Doesn't RC drive for Joe Gibbs?
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8/17/2008 8:05pm
RC's got priors for cheating..

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chadwik74
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8/17/2008 8:08pm
Big Lenny wrote:
RC's got priors for cheating..
Get the phuck outttta here....
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8/17/2008 8:14pm
RC is driving for Kenny Schrader
Void Main
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8/17/2008 8:18pm
I shoulda knowd that. Kenny is a local boy. I forgot RC just raced here a few weeks back.
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8/17/2008 8:49pm
It's nascar, who fuggin' cares?
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8/17/2008 10:10pm
TerryK wrote:
It's nascar, who fuggin' cares?
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8/18/2008 5:46am
more than one person knew those magnets were on there!
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8/18/2008 6:12am
Looks like Joe Gibbs aint the only ones who are getting noticed for 'bending' the rules a bit.


http://www.cyclenews.com/ShowStory.asp?HeadlineID=12812

Ah yes, the endless pursuit of innovative cheating! I could tell you guys some stories of the crap we used to get away with. Smokey Yunick is smiling in his grave. Cool

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8/18/2008 7:18am
If you aren't cheating you're not trying.
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8/18/2008 8:41am Edited Date/Time 8/18/2008 8:41am
Racer92 wrote:
Looks like Joe Gibbs aint the only ones who are getting noticed for 'bending' the rules a bit. http://www.cyclenews.com/ShowStory.asp?HeadlineID=12812 Ah yes, the endless pursuit of innovative...
Looks like Joe Gibbs aint the only ones who are getting noticed for 'bending' the rules a bit.


http://www.cyclenews.com/ShowStory.asp?HeadlineID=12812

Ah yes, the endless pursuit of innovative cheating! I could tell you guys some stories of the crap we used to get away with. Smokey Yunick is smiling in his grave. Cool

Smokey was the greatest. From the "7/8s chevelle" to driving the car back to the hauler without a fuel tank. He fooled the best.
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8/18/2008 8:56am
Is there a Horsepower limitation? It would seem that if your engine specs where in order it would be all fine.
coolhand
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8/18/2008 9:05am
ProS..I ask the same..A HP limit? WTF?
Racer92
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8/18/2008 9:18am
"What do they expect? Toyota is using F1 technology no doubt in some way. Nascar engineers wouldn't know what they were looking at. Especially if Nascar ever gets away from antiquated shit like carburetors."

Its nothing new for CommieCAR to outlaw somebody for being too fast. When the MOPAR guys showed up with the 426 winged cars and kicked everyones butt, they eventually outlawed that stuff, too.

How dare you be innovative and go faster!
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8/18/2008 10:09am
In therory a magnet under the pedal would limit HP, I cant find where NASCAR specified how the HP was to be removed, HA HA

Nascar claim's toyota has 632HP and the other's 611, why not give the other team's a option to pick up another 15,They could easily find that. Besides 15 HP is not a race winning difference.
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8/18/2008 10:18am
How does a magnet reduce H.P.?
prostreet6t9
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8/18/2008 10:20am
wpcjs wrote:
How does a magnet reduce H.P.?
You can't push the pedal down as far !!!! HA HA

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