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Edited Date/Time 7/9/2012 12:50am
did it look like Alessi pulls another douche move at the start of the second moto? Runs Dungey wide in that first corner in the hopes of what, he's going to win the moto because of that? Why can't he just ride his own race instead of continually pulling those stunts. In the meantime other guys are right there to capitalize on it. I don't really dislike the guy, but geez, he does some dumb shit now and then. Lets be serious, MA is going to have to find some serious speed to give RD an honest run for the money.
Weird thing is, I was really rooting for him to win that championship before he broke his kneecap. Redemption if you will, for his prior mistakes. Seems like he's never gotten back to that level he showed that year.
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jonjon714 7/8/2012 12:22pm
7/8/2012 12:22pm Edited Date/Time 7/8/2012 12:22pm
And you're Surprised? Alessi is always crossing lines and blocking. RD's patient and pulls the trigger when he knows the door's wide open or Alessi makes a mistake. Don't get me wrong, Alessi is an awesome rider but Dungey knows exactly how to get around him...
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scooter5002 7/8/2012 12:36pm
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No, sadly I'm not surprised. I just wish he would get the hell over it, and start riding like he should. Have to wonder if he wouldn't do better focusing on his results, instead of messing up other peoples. I just don't see that stuff as endearing to any new fans. Is that part of their yearly pre season strategy meeting? "Okay dad, what stupid shit should I pull THIS year to ruin someone elses race?"
Kudos to RD though, he is methodical and patient. Sometimes a little too much maybe, but he has a couple titles and is healthy. Maybe he's happy with that.
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Yeah! How dare a racer try to stay in front of everyone else! What the hell was he thinking by going fast and being in front of someone. Doesn't he know that he is supposed to back it off in the first corner. Doesn't he know that it is never okay to run someone high to force them to back off!

You guys should watch tennis.
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Grieby54 7/8/2012 12:56pm
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I'm no Alessi fan, but I didn't see anything wrong with what he did.

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jonjon714 7/8/2012 12:59pm
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72kiteboarder wrote:
Yeah! How dare a racer try to stay in front of everyone else! What the hell was he thinking by going fast and being in front...
Yeah! How dare a racer try to stay in front of everyone else! What the hell was he thinking by going fast and being in front of someone. Doesn't he know that he is supposed to back it off in the first corner. Doesn't he know that it is never okay to run someone high to force them to back off!

You guys should watch tennis.
Wasn't bitching or whining and actually I really like the way Alessi rides. So sorry to disappoint you but that's his style, always has been, that's all.

Also, I enjoy watching tennis and love to play....does that somehow make me some kind of whiny bitch or something?
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72kiteboarder 7/8/2012 1:02pm
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Was not direct at you Jon as much as scooter. And to the tennis thing, it is very proper and gentlemanly compared to Moto and you know that.
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jonjon714 7/8/2012 1:05pm
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72kiteboarder wrote:
Was not direct at you Jon as much as scooter. And to the tennis thing, it is very proper and gentlemanly compared to Moto and you...
Was not direct at you Jon as much as scooter. And to the tennis thing, it is very proper and gentlemanly compared to Moto and you know that.
It's all good homie. Woohoo
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scooter5002 7/8/2012 1:25pm
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72kiteboarder wrote:
Was not direct at you Jon as much as scooter. And to the tennis thing, it is very proper and gentlemanly compared to Moto and you...
Was not direct at you Jon as much as scooter. And to the tennis thing, it is very proper and gentlemanly compared to Moto and you know that.
Did you SEE that moment? I'm not saying he has to throw on the 4-ways and pull off on the shoulder to let Dungey by. What he did was so typical, and he let other guys around the inside of him, so he could be a problem for RD. A rider who, it's safe to say, has Alessi covered for speed. That was my point.
I'm all for great racing. Road blocking sucks. As I recall, Emig was pretty good at it too. Quite proud of it as well, but I don't think even HE was as bad as Alessi. Guess we are all just entitled to our opinions, eh kiteboarder? Vital strikes again. Just a thought, maybe re-read my ENTIRE first post.
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Grieby54 7/8/2012 1:54pm
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72kiteboarder wrote:
Was not direct at you Jon as much as scooter. And to the tennis thing, it is very proper and gentlemanly compared to Moto and you...
Was not direct at you Jon as much as scooter. And to the tennis thing, it is very proper and gentlemanly compared to Moto and you know that.
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Did you SEE that moment? I'm not saying he has to throw on the 4-ways and pull off on the shoulder to let Dungey by. What...
Did you SEE that moment? I'm not saying he has to throw on the 4-ways and pull off on the shoulder to let Dungey by. What he did was so typical, and he let other guys around the inside of him, so he could be a problem for RD. A rider who, it's safe to say, has Alessi covered for speed. That was my point.
I'm all for great racing. Road blocking sucks. As I recall, Emig was pretty good at it too. Quite proud of it as well, but I don't think even HE was as bad as Alessi. Guess we are all just entitled to our opinions, eh kiteboarder? Vital strikes again. Just a thought, maybe re-read my ENTIRE first post.
While he rereads your entire first post, how about you go rewatch the entire first lap of the race. Nobody got past Alessi. He lead every inch of the first lap.
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72kiteboarder 7/8/2012 2:24pm
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72kiteboarder wrote:
Was not direct at you Jon as much as scooter. And to the tennis thing, it is very proper and gentlemanly compared to Moto and you...
Was not direct at you Jon as much as scooter. And to the tennis thing, it is very proper and gentlemanly compared to Moto and you know that.
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Did you SEE that moment? I'm not saying he has to throw on the 4-ways and pull off on the shoulder to let Dungey by. What...
Did you SEE that moment? I'm not saying he has to throw on the 4-ways and pull off on the shoulder to let Dungey by. What he did was so typical, and he let other guys around the inside of him, so he could be a problem for RD. A rider who, it's safe to say, has Alessi covered for speed. That was my point.
I'm all for great racing. Road blocking sucks. As I recall, Emig was pretty good at it too. Quite proud of it as well, but I don't think even HE was as bad as Alessi. Guess we are all just entitled to our opinions, eh kiteboarder? Vital strikes again. Just a thought, maybe re-read my ENTIRE first post.
Did you SEE the start? He did not let others by in order to screw with Dungey, he got the holeshot and held the lead for the first 5 minutes of the race! No One got by him until Dungey did, and when he did get by, Alessi was not blocking or running him high.
TripleFive 7/8/2012 2:44pm
7/8/2012 2:44pm Edited Date/Time 7/8/2012 2:51pm
He's paid and races to do exactly ONE thing. Racing isn't for fun, for Mike it is a way to support himself and his family. I don't know why people freak out every time a professional rider is aggressive.
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BobbyM 7/8/2012 7:12pm
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afuckingmazing the amount of fucking little pussies that follow this sport but don't understand a fucking thing
about it.


please leave the sport afap....do yerself and the real fans a favor.
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GuyB 7/8/2012 7:18pm
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Leader controls the race. Always has.
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Skip376 7/8/2012 7:21pm
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I think JT$ said it best when he said Mike try's to ride his own race but also trys to ride his competitors race and it ends up hurrying his results. This is paraphrasing him and not his exact quote. For some reason I always hear old man Hansen saying the race is in front of you not behind when I watch Mike race.
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jonjon714 7/8/2012 7:23pm
7/8/2012 7:23pm Edited Date/Time 7/8/2012 7:50pm
Below is out of the mouth of Buddy Antunez. Yeah, I know / I know, he's just another pansy arm chair quaterback who knows absolutely nothing about the sport.

On New Boots
Almost all of my race stories that have to do with blocking, and that kind of stuff usually involves Jeff Emig, that’s kind of a standard. I think we were at Steel City in 1990, and Jeff had gotten a good start and was out front. Me, Denny Stephenson and I think it was Mike LaRocco were coming through the pack and we all caught up to Jeff, but we just could not pass him. He was using the whole track, swerving, cross jumping, just using everything in the bag to keep us behind him. Jeff built his career around doing that, until he finally got fast enough to keep you behind him.

After the race, all three of us were so pissed, because the cross jumping was just dangerous and so forth, and we all got in Jeff’s face. Jeff was this little scrawny dude, and he looked at all of us and said, “Guys, I had new boots on, I couldn’t feel anything!” From that point on, when anyone was cross jumping or doing anything like that, we started saying that they must be wearing new boots. Who in their right mind puts on new boots and goes racing? It was Jeff’s way of justifying what he was doing. At the end of the day I think we all wanted him to just fess up and say, ‘I did what it took to keep you behind me guys.’ [laughs] Instead he came up with the new boot story, it was great.




http://www.racerxonline.com/2012/07/04/rewind-with-buddy-antunez
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Coyote 7/8/2012 7:33pm
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GuyB wrote:
Leader controls the race. Always has.
Hear ya Guy but there is no etiquette with Alessi, he's going to get somebody hurt....probably Dungey...cross jumping..cross rutting etc just to try an keep a rider back when the guy came up on him from way back in one lap...its another thing if its the last lap and you're trying to get to the pay table first but the first couple of laps??? Tx god these guys are professionals an they know the way he rides. Back in my day if Bobby M was riding like that he would of been known as the biggest squirrel out there but that wasn't his style...Alessi, thats another story!!
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Coyote 7/8/2012 7:35pm
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72kiteboarder wrote:
Was not direct at you Jon as much as scooter. And to the tennis thing, it is very proper and gentlemanly compared to Moto and you...
Was not direct at you Jon as much as scooter. And to the tennis thing, it is very proper and gentlemanly compared to Moto and you know that.
scooter5002 wrote:
Did you SEE that moment? I'm not saying he has to throw on the 4-ways and pull off on the shoulder to let Dungey by. What...
Did you SEE that moment? I'm not saying he has to throw on the 4-ways and pull off on the shoulder to let Dungey by. What he did was so typical, and he let other guys around the inside of him, so he could be a problem for RD. A rider who, it's safe to say, has Alessi covered for speed. That was my point.
I'm all for great racing. Road blocking sucks. As I recall, Emig was pretty good at it too. Quite proud of it as well, but I don't think even HE was as bad as Alessi. Guess we are all just entitled to our opinions, eh kiteboarder? Vital strikes again. Just a thought, maybe re-read my ENTIRE first post.
x frikkin 1000..well said
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Igy 7/8/2012 7:35pm
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scooter5002 wrote:
did it look like Alessi pulls another douche move at the start of the second moto? Runs Dungey wide in that first corner in the hopes...
did it look like Alessi pulls another douche move at the start of the second moto? Runs Dungey wide in that first corner in the hopes of what, he's going to win the moto because of that? Why can't he just ride his own race instead of continually pulling those stunts. In the meantime other guys are right there to capitalize on it. I don't really dislike the guy, but geez, he does some dumb shit now and then. Lets be serious, MA is going to have to find some serious speed to give RD an honest run for the money.
Weird thing is, I was really rooting for him to win that championship before he broke his kneecap. Redemption if you will, for his prior mistakes. Seems like he's never gotten back to that level he showed that year.
Um... You do realize that Alessi is 2nd in points for the title, right? You do realize that, right?

You understand that the only thing that stands between him and a lifelong goal is Dungey, right? You do understand that, right?

Knowing this, you actually created a thread questioning his motives for "running Dungey high".

Dude, you're high!

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jmar 7/8/2012 7:47pm
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Blocking, and being able to get around someone blocking is part of racing. As with anything else with this sport, some are better blockers than others, and some are better at getting around blockers than others.

It's racing and there is no new earth shattering news here.
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Lightning78 7/8/2012 8:41pm
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scooter5002 wrote:
did it look like Alessi pulls another douche move at the start of the second moto? Runs Dungey wide in that first corner in the hopes...
did it look like Alessi pulls another douche move at the start of the second moto? Runs Dungey wide in that first corner in the hopes of what, he's going to win the moto because of that? Why can't he just ride his own race instead of continually pulling those stunts. In the meantime other guys are right there to capitalize on it. I don't really dislike the guy, but geez, he does some dumb shit now and then. Lets be serious, MA is going to have to find some serious speed to give RD an honest run for the money.
Weird thing is, I was really rooting for him to win that championship before he broke his kneecap. Redemption if you will, for his prior mistakes. Seems like he's never gotten back to that level he showed that year.
A. The universe is keeping him from going any faster

B. Now I know I'm not in the same planet as MA as far as riding but his riding style isn't very fluid, he ALWAYS looks to be fighting the bike, factory bike or not his style hasn't changed and looking at the way he fights the bike has got to use a lot more energy whereas a lot of the other riders are more fluid and use less energy.... IMO that's his biggest weakness keeping him from beating the top riders in front of him.
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bigborefan 7/8/2012 8:53pm
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It''s all a moot point. Dungey owns Alessi, he passed Mikey on the outside like Mikey was a C rider.

Getting passed on the outside, in a180 turn is worse than getting bitch slapped.
Riesenberg448 7/9/2012 12:50am
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I have no problem with a guy trying his hardest to win the race. It's easier to beat someone if you are in front of them and they have to find a way to go faster than you in a different line that you are already occupying (ever heard the saying, it's one thing to catch someone, and another to pass someone?).

Mike is trying hard, I see nothing wrong with that.

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