Broc Tickle on a PC 450 next year

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MX_Andrew83 9/14/2011 5:22pm
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Why would Mitch spend money like this, he stood a better chance with Hansen on a 450.
mxrider225 9/14/2011 5:27pm
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MX_Andrew83 wrote:
Why would Mitch spend money like this, he stood a better chance with Hansen on a 450.
Factory Kawi is helping him for this year.


Also Tickle said Durham is in talks with PC.
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MX_Andrew83 wrote:
Why would Mitch spend money like this, he stood a better chance with Hansen on a 450.
He had one year left on his contract and was pointed out of the 250 class. It was either go under the Kawi tent or Mich had to do something.
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skidsteer16 9/14/2011 5:33pm
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MX_Andrew83 wrote:
Why would Mitch spend money like this, he stood a better chance with Hansen on a 450.
Because he's a great team manager and feels somewhat responsible for signing Broc to a 2 year deal without realizing this stupid ass rule would come into play. He doesn't want to leave one of his guys out to dry after said rider just added another PC #1 plate to the side of his semi.

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Track and Trail 9/14/2011 5:48pm
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I predict 8th - 12th on the 450. Hopefully he does waayyyyyyy better than that though!
thefactorypilot 9/14/2011 6:09pm
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I really feel for Tickle... the AMA has changed their rules so many times for nonsensical reasons, it's a shame that they did not allow the kid to defend his title.

I know he is fast as hell, but I'm not sure if he is ready for the big class... give him a couple years and yeah, but I think a year of title defense would help his confidence a lot.
But that's just my opinion.
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FastEddy 9/14/2011 6:23pm
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MX_Andrew83 wrote:
Why would Mitch spend money like this, he stood a better chance with Hansen on a 450.
Hanny is H&H now I believe.....450.
Kenny mentioned the other night they are looking for another semi (2 semis at the races),their going big.


Broc signed a 2 year contract with PC.
Since he has been in the Lites class for 3 years and also just won a championship,he has no choice but to move up
(he cant stay down and defend his title-I guess rules have changed?).
Rules are rules....and Mitch tried to talk to the AMA to try to get something done.

With that said Mitch is going to honor his contract and keep him for another year and with Factory Kawis help he will race a 450 under the PC-Kawi tent.

It should be interesting to see how he does....
I think he may surprise some people.
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MX_Andrew83 9/14/2011 6:24pm
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MX_Andrew83 wrote:
Why would Mitch spend money like this, he stood a better chance with Hansen on a 450.
skidsteer16 wrote:
Because he's a great team manager and feels somewhat responsible for signing Broc to a 2 year deal without realizing this stupid ass rule would come...
Because he's a great team manager and feels somewhat responsible for signing Broc to a 2 year deal without realizing this stupid ass rule would come into play. He doesn't want to leave one of his guys out to dry after said rider just added another PC #1 plate to the side of his semi.
I thought he would be allowed one season to defend his title. I guess I was wrong. I am not saying Tickle isn't a great rider, just surprised.
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thefactorypilot wrote:
I really feel for Tickle... the AMA has changed their rules so many times for nonsensical reasons, it's a shame that they did not allow the...
I really feel for Tickle... the AMA has changed their rules so many times for nonsensical reasons, it's a shame that they did not allow the kid to defend his title.

I know he is fast as hell, but I'm not sure if he is ready for the big class... give him a couple years and yeah, but I think a year of title defense would help his confidence a lot.
But that's just my opinion.
i felt this way to but than I looked up his age and he is going to be 22 in November so definitly time to move up.
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MX_Andrew83 wrote:
Why would Mitch spend money like this, he stood a better chance with Hansen on a 450.
FastEddy wrote:
Hanny is H&H now I believe.....450. Kenny mentioned the other night they are looking for another semi (2 semis at the races),their going big. Broc signed...
Hanny is H&H now I believe.....450.
Kenny mentioned the other night they are looking for another semi (2 semis at the races),their going big.


Broc signed a 2 year contract with PC.
Since he has been in the Lites class for 3 years and also just won a championship,he has no choice but to move up
(he cant stay down and defend his title-I guess rules have changed?).
Rules are rules....and Mitch tried to talk to the AMA to try to get something done.

With that said Mitch is going to honor his contract and keep him for another year and with Factory Kawis help he will race a 450 under the PC-Kawi tent.

It should be interesting to see how he does....
I think he may surprise some people.
Tickle has been in the lights since 06 -- a little more than 3 years.
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Scooby 9/14/2011 6:27pm
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I thought he would be allowed to defend as well. Very honorable of Mitch to take care of Broc. Good luck Mr. Tickle.
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FastEddy 9/14/2011 6:28pm
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j100 wrote:
Tickle has been in the lights since 06 -- a little more than 3 years.
I think 3 years is the cut off in lites....if you win a championship.
That is why I said 3 years...(also that is how Broc told it).
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ohh. i was like, how about 6 years. hahaha
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FastEddy 9/14/2011 6:36pm
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j100 wrote:
ohh. i was like, how about 6 years. hahaha
Yeah,he has been around for a while now....
I just think that the AMA needs solid set of CLEAR rules as for making a rider move up from Lites and they need to stick with it.
Because even when Mitch signed him & he signed ,neither one of them knew anything about that rule.
Seems like every now and then they add to the rules or switch stuff around. lol
Makes it harder to understand for everyone.
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wb173 9/14/2011 6:37pm
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MX_Andrew83 wrote:
Why would Mitch spend money like this, he stood a better chance with Hansen on a 450.
Probably because Tickle has a contract and Hansen has done so much in the outdoors the past few years. You and I will never know...
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bobby397 9/14/2011 6:42pm
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MX_Andrew83 wrote:
Why would Mitch spend money like this, he stood a better chance with Hansen on a 450.
How many championships does Hanson have?
sbarrington314 9/14/2011 6:44pm
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i remember there were quite a few people on here that "knew" that broc did not point out and would be on a PC250 with a #1 plate.

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bobby397 9/14/2011 6:47pm
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i remember there were quite a few people on here that "knew" that broc did not point out and would be on a PC250 with a...
i remember there were quite a few people on here that "knew" that broc did not point out and would be on a PC250 with a #1 plate.
You might not hear much out of that crowd.
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FastEddy 9/14/2011 6:50pm
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MX_Andrew83 wrote:
Why would Mitch spend money like this, he stood a better chance with Hansen on a 450.
bobby397 wrote:
How many championships does Hanson have?
AMA Pro championships 0

2001 LL's 250 Open B Modified Championship
Won a 450 SX championship down under last year.
Tied with GL in points for the 2005 125 East championship but lost it by wins (I think Hanny won a couple races that year).
Then those 2 XGames wins.
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RIV747 9/14/2011 6:50pm
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I think Broc will be top ten for sure if not better. I remember he raced the 450 class at Millville back in 06, remember the 2nd moto mudfest when RC lapped everyone! Straight out of LL's and finished 11th the first moto 16th overall......against a pretty stacked field as well!

http://209.169.8.8/pdfresults/mx/2006/09-millville/mxoverall.pdf
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bobby397 9/14/2011 6:58pm
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MX_Andrew83 wrote:
Why would Mitch spend money like this, he stood a better chance with Hansen on a 450.
bobby397 wrote:
How many championships does Hanson have?
FastEddy wrote:
AMA Pro championships 0 2001 LL's 250 Open B Modified Championship Won a 450 SX championship down under last year. Tied with GL in points for...
AMA Pro championships 0

2001 LL's 250 Open B Modified Championship
Won a 450 SX championship down under last year.
Tied with GL in points for the 2005 125 East championship but lost it by wins (I think Hanny won a couple races that year).
Then those 2 XGames wins.
So it looks as if Mitch stands a better chance with broc....
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FastEddy 9/14/2011 6:59pm
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sbarrington314 wrote:
i remember there were quite a few people on here that "knew" that broc did not point out and would be on a PC250 with a...
i remember there were quite a few people on here that "knew" that broc did not point out and would be on a PC250 with a #1 plate.
I dont believe it has anything to do with pointing out.
3 years in the class + 1 championship means you have to move up...regardless of points.
That is how Broc made it sound.
Like I said in another post, even Mitch & Broc didn't know about the rule when they signed.
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haydos25 9/14/2011 7:05pm
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So 450 indoors then back to the little bike outdoors?? Or does he run 450 all year round?
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Any word on Broc's outdoors season? I always thought of him as an outdoors rider. If it was an injury or mental, I hope he gets it figure out in the next few months.
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Tickle raced only MX in 2006, but I think this is the rule that got him:


2. A rider that wins a Supercross Lites Championship will be
eligible to participate in the Supercross Lites class for a
maximum of three years total regardless of what year he/she
won the title. (i.e. if a rider wins the Championship in their
third year of Supercross Lites competition, they will be
ineligible for the Supercross Lites class regardless of points
and therefore not eligible to defend their Supercross Lites
Championship title)title)e)



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FastEddy 9/14/2011 7:10pm
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bobby397 wrote:
So it looks as if Mitch stands a better chance with broc....
I guess we will know once they line up against each other. Smile


Also that is all on how you look at it....if you are going by SX racing stats & experience.
I believe in the past 7 years Hanny has won more SX's in Ama lites & gotten more podiums then Broc has in 5 years (I could be wrong though). Also keep in mind ,Hanny has experience on a 450 and has been racing one for a while now ,on & off.I can remember back in 09 I think it was,him showing flashes of speed and passing reed back in that heat race.
I was like WTF? Then his X wins & then winning a title down under on a 450.
So I can see how someone would think he would be a good a choice.

However,these past few years ,Broc has really progressed and will continue to progress I assume into 450 championship material.
Like I said before,I think he will surprise some folks.
And dont forget...Mitch likes to win,win,win!
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haydos25 wrote:
So 450 indoors then back to the little bike outdoors?? Or does he run 450 all year round?
He should be able to ride a 250F outdoors again.


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He's definitely going to have a tough time in supercross on a 450.
I just can's see him doing better than RV2, JS7, RD5, CR22, TC41, Kdub, IT9, Shorty, Weimer, or even Milsaps. There's 10 solid guys right there and that didn't even include Brayton, Grant, Metty, or Hill (whatever he's doing). Definitely tough.
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bobby397 9/14/2011 7:19pm
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bobby397 wrote:
So it looks as if Mitch stands a better chance with broc....
FastEddy wrote:
I guess we will know once they line up against each other. :) Also that is all on how you look at it....if you are going...
I guess we will know once they line up against each other. Smile


Also that is all on how you look at it....if you are going by SX racing stats & experience.
I believe in the past 7 years Hanny has won more SX's in Ama lites & gotten more podiums then Broc has in 5 years (I could be wrong though). Also keep in mind ,Hanny has experience on a 450 and has been racing one for a while now ,on & off.I can remember back in 09 I think it was,him showing flashes of speed and passing reed back in that heat race.
I was like WTF? Then his X wins & then winning a title down under on a 450.
So I can see how someone would think he would be a good a choice.

However,these past few years ,Broc has really progressed and will continue to progress I assume into 450 championship material.
Like I said before,I think he will surprise some folks.
And dont forget...Mitch likes to win,win,win!
Yea, I agree that Hanson has alittle more experience on the 450, but once Hanson has a bad race it seems he has a hard time getting it back together. Tickle on the other hand seems to progress each time he goes out. I think tickle can be a top 10 guy and give mitch alittle more motivation to build a 450 team.

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