Justin Cooper on a 450

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Justin cooper points out of the 250 class, but will only be racing select rounds on a 450. Is Yamaha right to ease him into the class or should they just let the kid race?

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What should Yamaha do with Justin Coopers SX season?

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UGOTBIT
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12/13/2022 4:30pm

I'd love to see him out there with the boys, but I say ease him into it, he's back on the 250 for MX anyway.

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12/13/2022 4:33pm

Let him race. The practice track is where most accidents happen anyway.

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12/13/2022 4:44pm

I think he should just race the 450 full time.

But if Bobby's goal is for cooper to win the 250mx championship. You kinda need to protect him. So it makes sense to not let him race full-time.

Also what is star doing for 450 mx?

Eli is gone.

So it's only ferrandis.

I wouldn't be surprised to see colt come back.

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12/13/2022 4:47pm

Feels like they are doing him dirty… does this count as a contract year in SX? I assume he would miss out on all the incentives / bonus he would get a chance at any other year? I’d be mad

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12/13/2022 4:52pm
mx313 wrote:
I think he should just race the 450 full time. But if Bobby's goal is for cooper to win the 250mx championship. You kinda need to...

I think he should just race the 450 full time.

But if Bobby's goal is for cooper to win the 250mx championship. You kinda need to protect him. So it makes sense to not let him race full-time.

Also what is star doing for 450 mx?

Eli is gone.

So it's only ferrandis.

I wouldn't be surprised to see colt come back.

I haven’t heard Tomac say he’s DONE yet. I know it’s probable, but he may decide to race outdoors. 
 

ferrandis will be a contender and i don’t think it’s out of the question for Yamaha to put someone on the other bike. 
 

Colt ? As in Colt Nichols, the one racing Roczens old bike ? 

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12/13/2022 4:53pm

They're switching the rule anyways. Let him race 250!

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12/13/2022 4:56pm

I think the AMA should just let him ride the 250 class. They changed the rule because of him and Colt. But because they won’t, Star should just let him race the whole season. 

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12/13/2022 5:15pm
huckabuck wrote:
Feels like they are doing him dirty… does this count as a contract year in SX? I assume he would miss out on all the incentives...

Feels like they are doing him dirty… does this count as a contract year in SX? I assume he would miss out on all the incentives / bonus he would get a chance at any other year? I’d be mad

I wouldn't say that, dude had no options for SX this season. Them giving him a go on the 450 is a good thing for him and the team.

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12/13/2022 5:38pm
huckabuck wrote:
Feels like they are doing him dirty… does this count as a contract year in SX? I assume he would miss out on all the incentives...

Feels like they are doing him dirty… does this count as a contract year in SX? I assume he would miss out on all the incentives / bonus he would get a chance at any other year? I’d be mad

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I wouldn't say that, dude had no options for SX this season. Them giving him a go on the 450 is a good thing for him...

I wouldn't say that, dude had no options for SX this season. Them giving him a go on the 450 is a good thing for him and the team.

No options? he could race the 450 class

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12/13/2022 7:20pm

Budgets are not unlimited and they already have two full time elite 450 guys.  "Let him" is one thing.....cost is another.

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mx313 wrote:
I think he should just race the 450 full time. But if Bobby's goal is for cooper to win the 250mx championship. You kinda need to...

I think he should just race the 450 full time.

But if Bobby's goal is for cooper to win the 250mx championship. You kinda need to protect him. So it makes sense to not let him race full-time.

Also what is star doing for 450 mx?

Eli is gone.

So it's only ferrandis.

I wouldn't be surprised to see colt come back.

I haven’t heard Tomac say he’s DONE yet. I know it’s probable, but he may decide to race outdoors.    ferrandis will be a contender and...

I haven’t heard Tomac say he’s DONE yet. I know it’s probable, but he may decide to race outdoors. 
 

ferrandis will be a contender and i don’t think it’s out of the question for Yamaha to put someone on the other bike. 
 

Colt ? As in Colt Nichols, the one racing Roczens old bike ? 

Tomac has said he is racing sx in 23 then retiring about 10 times. But then the incentive of smx has had a lot of ppl ask him if he will stay for 1 last full season and he has said no.

And yeah colt the guy racing sx only on Honda. Then out of a ride for mx.

If star need a new 450 rider.

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12/14/2022 1:00am
mx313 wrote:
I think he should just race the 450 full time. But if Bobby's goal is for cooper to win the 250mx championship. You kinda need to...

I think he should just race the 450 full time.

But if Bobby's goal is for cooper to win the 250mx championship. You kinda need to protect him. So it makes sense to not let him race full-time.

Also what is star doing for 450 mx?

Eli is gone.

So it's only ferrandis.

I wouldn't be surprised to see colt come back.

I haven’t heard Tomac say he’s DONE yet. I know it’s probable, but he may decide to race outdoors.    ferrandis will be a contender and...

I haven’t heard Tomac say he’s DONE yet. I know it’s probable, but he may decide to race outdoors. 
 

ferrandis will be a contender and i don’t think it’s out of the question for Yamaha to put someone on the other bike. 
 

Colt ? As in Colt Nichols, the one racing Roczens old bike ? 

mx313 wrote:
Tomac has said he is racing sx in 23 then retiring about 10 times. But then the incentive of smx has had a lot of ppl...

Tomac has said he is racing sx in 23 then retiring about 10 times. But then the incentive of smx has had a lot of ppl ask him if he will stay for 1 last full season and he has said no.

And yeah colt the guy racing sx only on Honda. Then out of a ride for mx.

If star need a new 450 rider.

Tomac has yet to announce that he is retiring. All he has said publicly was that 2023 would probably be his last year and that it is very unlikely that he would race outdoors. 

Two very different things. 

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12/14/2022 3:44am
mx313 wrote:
I think he should just race the 450 full time. But if Bobby's goal is for cooper to win the 250mx championship. You kinda need to...

I think he should just race the 450 full time.

But if Bobby's goal is for cooper to win the 250mx championship. You kinda need to protect him. So it makes sense to not let him race full-time.

Also what is star doing for 450 mx?

Eli is gone.

So it's only ferrandis.

I wouldn't be surprised to see colt come back.

I haven’t heard Tomac say he’s DONE yet. I know it’s probable, but he may decide to race outdoors.    ferrandis will be a contender and...

I haven’t heard Tomac say he’s DONE yet. I know it’s probable, but he may decide to race outdoors. 
 

ferrandis will be a contender and i don’t think it’s out of the question for Yamaha to put someone on the other bike. 
 

Colt ? As in Colt Nichols, the one racing Roczens old bike ? 

I hope Colt will keep his seat for Outdoors, but only if they run a 3 man team as a certain young Aussi kid will move up for Outdoors

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I haven’t heard Tomac say he’s DONE yet. I know it’s probable, but he may decide to race outdoors.    ferrandis will be a contender and...

I haven’t heard Tomac say he’s DONE yet. I know it’s probable, but he may decide to race outdoors. 
 

ferrandis will be a contender and i don’t think it’s out of the question for Yamaha to put someone on the other bike. 
 

Colt ? As in Colt Nichols, the one racing Roczens old bike ? 

mx313 wrote:
Tomac has said he is racing sx in 23 then retiring about 10 times. But then the incentive of smx has had a lot of ppl...

Tomac has said he is racing sx in 23 then retiring about 10 times. But then the incentive of smx has had a lot of ppl ask him if he will stay for 1 last full season and he has said no.

And yeah colt the guy racing sx only on Honda. Then out of a ride for mx.

If star need a new 450 rider.

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Tomac has yet to announce that he is retiring. All he has said publicly was that 2023 would probably be his last year and that it...

Tomac has yet to announce that he is retiring. All he has said publicly was that 2023 would probably be his last year and that it is very unlikely that he would race outdoors. 

Two very different things. 

I hope it’s not. Could you imagine a summer of him vs Chase AND Jett? Epic

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12/14/2022 5:17am

Run the whole SX season!  Colt will, what's the difference between the 2?  Both veteran racers that are rookies on 450's.

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mx313 wrote:
Tomac has said he is racing sx in 23 then retiring about 10 times. But then the incentive of smx has had a lot of ppl...

Tomac has said he is racing sx in 23 then retiring about 10 times. But then the incentive of smx has had a lot of ppl ask him if he will stay for 1 last full season and he has said no.

And yeah colt the guy racing sx only on Honda. Then out of a ride for mx.

If star need a new 450 rider.

-MAVERICK- wrote:
Tomac has yet to announce that he is retiring. All he has said publicly was that 2023 would probably be his last year and that it...

Tomac has yet to announce that he is retiring. All he has said publicly was that 2023 would probably be his last year and that it is very unlikely that he would race outdoors. 

Two very different things. 

I hope it’s not. Could you imagine a summer of him vs Chase AND Jett? Epic

You forgot to add Ferrandis. Not sure why people keep on ignoring him. It's a shame he was hurt this year, but he dominated 2021. 

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-MAVERICK- wrote:
Tomac has yet to announce that he is retiring. All he has said publicly was that 2023 would probably be his last year and that it...

Tomac has yet to announce that he is retiring. All he has said publicly was that 2023 would probably be his last year and that it is very unlikely that he would race outdoors. 

Two very different things. 

I hope it’s not. Could you imagine a summer of him vs Chase AND Jett? Epic

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You forgot to add Ferrandis. Not sure why people keep on ignoring him. It's a shame he was hurt this year, but he dominated 2021. 

Ya he was back to full speed at MXDN. I guess for me it depends on him getting t through SX healthy. Same for the other guys

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12/14/2022 7:27am

Rules are made by rich people to make themselves more cash... not for the betterment of the sport.... 

JC should be allowed to defend his 250SX title... but instead... we get to watch Jett lap the field... YAY! 

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Ya he was back to full speed at MXDN. I guess for me it depends on him getting t through SX healthy. Same for the other...

Ya he was back to full speed at MXDN. I guess for me it depends on him getting t through SX healthy. Same for the other guys

Ferrandis never got comfortable in SX on the old platform, but he did say that the new bike addressed the issues he was having with the old bike. 

I'm hoping that's the case because this year he was able to qualify fastest in SX a few times, so if he's comfortable indoors on the new bike, he could be another championship contender. 

The more contenders the better.

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12/14/2022 8:07am

Sitting out the series would not help his career at all, IMO.

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SGoodman wrote:
Rules are made by rich people to make themselves more cash... not for the betterment of the sport....  JC should be allowed to defend his 250SX...

Rules are made by rich people to make themselves more cash... not for the betterment of the sport.... 

JC should be allowed to defend his 250SX title... but instead... we get to watch Jett lap the field... YAY! 

He was given the chance to defend but he injured himself before the season even started. 

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Sx racing is broken.... all the rich morons at the top make the rules based on what makes them more money... not fairness of racing or what is good for the overall health of the sport.... wanna know why the sport doesn't grow? Because those in charge of growing it are more concerned about the status of their bank account,  not the health of the sport.... 

If it's gonna be a regional series, let it be one with an age cap... if its a full 250sx national championship like outdoors,  then do it with no age cap.... but the current rules are just a cluster... 

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