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http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/10/01/264485/no-more-israel-in-10-yea… .
Im not sure what to make of this article. What do y'all think?
Im not sure what to make of this article. What do y'all think?
The article makes it sound like the Arab Spring will overrun Israel also, I doubt it.
The article makes it sound like we are going broke because of our support of Israel. We're going broke for a whole host of reasons, wars in the middle east being just one of them.
A rising Iran will overrun Israel? I doubt it. My understanding is that a large percentage of Iraniains do not support Amadinjade(sp). I would guess civil unrest in Iran before Iran overruns Israel.
Whats Iran going to do? Drop an atomic bomb on Israel, site of the Dome of the Rock, a holy Muslim site no?
Kissinger wants Iran bad.
The Shop
Never happened.
And btw, what does this bit from the linked article mean???
"It is becoming a common knowledge that Israel and its supporters carried out the 9/11 false-flag attacks."
"It is becoming a common knowledge that Israel and its supporters carried out the 9/11 false-flag attacks."
Dr. Alan Sabrosky, former Director of Studies at the U.S. Army War College says Israel did it. He is Jewish and a US patriot so it seems. Very well spoken as well. Here are some interviews with him on Youtube. These are all worth listening to and reading Sabrosky's other articles will get you into the details from his viewpoint. Google for them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVKGRB3cygg&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPLU4N7gmY4&feature=related
Architects and Engineers for 9-11 truth logically spell out the demolitions aspect here in a very well done presentation. After watching this it is would be seemingly impossible to think WTC 7 and the towers came down any other way than a demolition job. Watching WTC 7 at the time I thought demolition. I don't know anyone personally who didn't.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQgVCj7q49o&feature=related
Pilots for 9-11 truth spell out how the supposed hijackers could in no way have flown the planes into the buildings, particularlly at the speeds they where supposedly going. Here is the link. Well done presentation also.
http://vimeo.com/6679633
EX - Cia employee- who was jailed for 10 months or there abouts under the patriot act for passing information via a relative to Bush, tells the lead up to 911 from her insider position. She thinks along the same lines. Here is her presentation. Another patriot for sure.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68LUHa_-OlA&feature=related
Firefighters for truth have as well a good presentation that involves the way in which the investigation was covered up. You need to fast forward this one to get to the presentation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxGB2YoGV-I
Check them out , google from there and decide for yourself.
https://youtu.be/sBOel-LyJ_E
Doing a pull on #7
Oh, and don't fall victim to the "jet fuel doesn't burn hot enough" stuff. I questioned it, and investigating I found that jet fuel burns at the temp that will soften the girders to the point of shifting the stress strain curve enough to put them in a plastic (non-linear) state.
I also believe the US Government is starting to distance itself from Israel. Most of the world already has zero respect for Israel. The US recently categorized the census data and included Jews as a "race". That had never been done before. By publicly segmenting the data to include Jews as a race showed they are the wealthiest segment in the US by a gigantic margin. I believe that was done to start making people aware of how much control Jews have over the US.
The Jews have gone through this process multiple times throughout history. They gain too much power and money, then when things become tough, leaders use them as a scapegoat, whether real or perceived. What happens next is the populace asks for their heads. Hitler was not the first to try and rid the earth of Jews. I have to mention, the US did not like the Jews up to the end of WWII either.
An odd fact, however, it seems the US Jewish population is getting sick of Israel. By far, the most numerous US visitors to Israel are Christians. Jews have basically stopped visiting Israel and are increasingly speaking out about their terrorist activities.
With all the said. I agree that Israel's days of US protection are numbered and if they want to exist, they need to start lobbying Russia or China for help. I don't think either will give a rats ass about them though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQgVCj7q49o&feature=related
I'll continue watching, but when they say shit like, "....melting the steel...", I start to become skeptical of their study. Sounds very agenda driven.
Here's an example of different tensile curves of steel under different temps. You'll see a stress threshold drop of about 25%, which can be substantial, depending on the built in factors of safety of the design, along with the structural damage of some of the girders:
As for the collapse, structural damage caused by the collision could've bent the beams. The burning tests shown were done on buildings with no structural damage. You take a few beams out, the remaining beams have to support the additional load...loads they were never designed for. Also, some of those beams were bent, and once you buckle a beam, compression loading to failure significantly drops.
As to the molten steel, natural gas burns at about 1900 degrees Celcius. Structural steel melts at about 1500 degrees celcius. It's possible that exposed natural gas lines were burning so hot, melting some of the girders. The girders below ground that continued to flow molten metal, could be from ruptured gas lines after the collapse.
Thermite....I dunno.
Still watching, but critical.
Oh, tower 7 was deliberately demolished because the fire department thought it would collapse and cause damage, so they took it down.
No, not decided, but there are ways to explain this, except for the thermite, since I don't know shit about that. I do know I'm running out of this beer....fridge run!
Last, thanks for posting this vid. Great different viewpoint with a lot of info. Much appreciated, mtnr.
Aluminum - structures, a variety of cabinets, heat sinks, electrical conductors, etc.
Iron oxide - steel
Copper oxide - semiconductors. Not sure if a reaction could create this. Maybe wiring?
Zinc Nitrate - zinc plating of steel components.
Potassium permanganate - water treatment.
So, depending on the levels, it's possible that these compounds/elements could be found within the building.
On a different topic.
Jab,you may enjoy this episode of Coast To Coast.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSYspOS563c
They discuss the NDAA....Pretty good stuff as far as Act's vs Common Law and the Government doing unconstitutional stuff.
Oldfart may enjoy it also.
Pit Row
Never gonna happen.
You ever looked into personal sovereignty? Ive heard friends talk about it. But nothing credible I want to repeat here. But supposedly its doable.
And yeah, Kissinger is evil as all hell.
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I met a lot of different people that were into those type of movements & survivalist movements ect.... They considered themselves citizens of a State and not Federal citizens for the most part.The majority of the ones I met were all ex-military,
from Korean to Vietnam ,to first Iraq war vets.That pretty much got tired of the Federal government and it's bullshit.
Some were even disabled veterans that turned down any money & VA(aid) from the Federal Government and refused to pay Fed taxes on any personal income from there on out.I even remember meeting a E'9 Master Gunny that turned down his retirement money.He started doing gun smithing under the table. I remember him telling me he would starve to death before he ever accepted a dime from the corrupted US Government again and he sure as hell wouldn't give them another dime.This was after WACO. Both Waco & Ruby Ridge opened up a lot of eyes for a lot of people...back in those days.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxGB2YoGV-I
It seems like the Fed Gov has a strangle on any one who is a US citizen.
Even if you move to another country and renounce your American citizenship,the Fed Gov still see's you as a citizen and tries to still tax you ect... It's crazy.
Probably private companies testing stuff for the most part to sell to Governments ect....
I wouldn't doubt it if us or other countries had extremely high altitude saucer shaped drones that also had underwater capabilities to travel great distances.
That would really throw off the enemy - especially if they worked like a submarine,but shot out of the water at Mach 1. But really there is no telling what is really out there.
Makes yah wonder either way.
This site here always has some new stuff to look at regarding sightings.
http://www.ufosightingsdaily.com
Is this what you are talking about?
http://www.ufosightingsdaily.com/2012/09/ufo-war-chinese-and-us-navy-of…
Could be some highly exaggerated training drills. But I'm not sure.
Could also be us fucking with them for testing - with some drones and buzzing them and stuff.
They think it's aliens -but it's probably a bunch of Air force guys using remote controls on a ship & laughing.
"Nope we aint seen nothing...it's gotta be ET's"
My friends "who have friends" that have tried to get sovereignty spent a ton of time in court and ended up getting harassed by the gov't to the point that laying low and hiding in plain sight would have been much less hassle.
It's all kinda radical theory that I'd love to know if actually true.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsdxPJFn4Gw .
Ive been told while there are benefits to gaining personal sovereignty, it is also quite expensive as you are no longer privy to having your house connected to public works such as water and what not. You have to pay for that privilege. Which isnt a big deal if it allows you to truly be free.
Another interesting vid...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55pjFKalOVc&feature=related .
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