Sidecarcross ??

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This weekend is the sidecarcross of nations. Team USA is not present and then i thought about it.. i don't think i have ever seen sidecars racing in the USA. Do you guys have that ?

Here you can see the results of todays qualifying races together with 2 pics : http://www.mxworld.be/detail.php?classtodisplay=homepage&idtodisplay=61…

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mumhra wrote:
This weekend is the sidecarcross of nations. Team USA is not present and then i thought about it.. i don't think i have ever seen sidecars...
This weekend is the sidecarcross of nations. Team USA is not present and then i thought about it.. i don't think i have ever seen sidecars racing in the USA. Do you guys have that ?

Here you can see the results of todays qualifying races together with 2 pics : http://www.mxworld.be/detail.php?classtodisplay=homepage&idtodisplay=61…

I know the AMA had a series last year....
See link
http://www.amadirectlink.com/amrace/2007/smx/index.asp

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10/4/2008 1:11pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 8:42pm
Brutal..... Smile



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Imagine the poor bastard that would have to ride passenger to RC if he decided to race one.


It would take a lot of money for me to get on board to go through the whoops at Millville with RC at the helm
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There was a race at Carlsbad in 82 and the video is on youtube, theres a nice little group on faceache called sidecarcross run by a friend who races the british sidecarcross championship

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10/4/2008 4:19pm
I've seen them at Saddleback in the '80s, and at the Elsinore GP more recently than that (maybe five or six years ago). My guess would be that the place you'd mostly likely see them is somewhere like the bigger GP races here (Adelanto, etc.)
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This sport reminds me of something they would race in Iraq, it just dosnt look safe at all and just plan stupid.
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10/4/2008 11:18pm
Thanks for the info guys Smile

I was just wondering. Over here the sport is very popular. 2 mates of mine are racing the sidecarcross of nations this weekend. One is in Belgium 1 and the other one is in Belgium 2. Another mate of mine ended his career a few years ago. He became 5 times champion of Belgium, 2 times european champion and he finished 7th in the 1 year he entered the world championship.
Some guys over here don't go to watch normal mx or sx, only these sidecars. I have never heard anything about it in the states so i really wanted to know and now i know Smile .

For those who think that this thing is easy just think again. I have been riding mx for approx 25 years now and i have been a passenger in those sidecars a few times now. Mx is a very demanding sport. You have to be in a really good shape to do it. But it's nothing compared with being the passenger in a sidecar. After 2 laps i thought i was going to die. I begged the rider to stop (it was that guy that ended his career a few years ago) but he just kept the throttle wide open to get to the finish line asap. All i could do was hold on lol.
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Imagine the poor bastard that would have to ride passenger to RC if he decided to race one. It would take a lot of money for...
Imagine the poor bastard that would have to ride passenger to RC if he decided to race one.


It would take a lot of money for me to get on board to go through the whoops at Millville with RC at the helm
Well.. there is some sort of RC in sidecarcross. Daniel Willemsen from Holland wins every single race he enters. And he does that by lapping several seconds a lap quicker then everybody else. No matter who he has as a passenger, he flies.

A few years ago he won the world championship by winning every single round. Sven Verbrugge from Belgium was his passenger both those 2 were no mates at all. They often crossed the finish line while they were fighting eachother. Hitting eachother. It was unbelievable to see how such a fast duo could just not stand eachother lol.
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10/4/2008 11:43pm
They had a series in 1975....I rode the 125 Pro support class for the round at Lake Whitney.

Crazy European mofo's on english twins.

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In the early 70's they raced as a support class during the Trans AMA series.I was amazed at their ability to haul ass around the Puyallup mx track. Norton twins seemed to be the engine that most of them used,
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These days most of those guys use 2 stroke engines. 900 cc, 1 cylindre, 2stroke engine built by EML. The power in that thing is incredible.
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10/5/2008 8:56am
mumhra wrote:
This weekend is the sidecarcross of nations. Team USA is not present and then i thought about it.. i don't think i have ever seen sidecars...
This weekend is the sidecarcross of nations. Team USA is not present and then i thought about it.. i don't think i have ever seen sidecars racing in the USA. Do you guys have that ?

Here you can see the results of todays qualifying races together with 2 pics : http://www.mxworld.be/detail.php?classtodisplay=homepage&idtodisplay=61…

What about the aussie's......we aren't represented. I know we have had and have some good sidecar guys over here. My local club had a sidecar meeting a couple months back and there were a couple quick guys there and i am fairly sure that one of them has done some racing in europe in previous years.
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I have no idea if anyone cares but i have the results. First of all i have to say that it has been raining the entire day here in Belgium. The track was flooded so the outcome was kind of a lotery.
Belgium was allowed to let 2 teams start because Belgium is the organizing country.
Anyway.. here it is :

moto 1

1. Steegmans (BEL) - Sabbe (BEL)
2. Wilkinson (GBR) - Burt (GBR)
3. Rupeiks (Lat) - Kaelin (SUI)
4. Willemsen m (Ned) - Godeau ( Ned)
5. Santermans (Bel) - Van den Bogaert (Bel)
6. Daiders (Lat) - Daiders (Lat)
7. Hendrickx (Bel) - Liepins (Lat)
8. Bax (Ned) - Van Deutekom (Ned)
9. Rozehnal (CZE) - Rozenahl (CZE)
10. Millard (GBr) - Millard (GBR)
14. Hendrickx (Bel) - Smeuninx (Bel)


moto 2

1. Willemsen (Ned) - Gruter (Sui)
2. Sergis (Lat) - Stupelis (Lat)
3. Söderqvist (SWE) - Sylwan (Swe)
4. Willemsen (Ned) - Godau (Ger)
5. Daiders (Lat) - Daiders (Lat)
6. Walter (Ger) - Weinman (Ger)
7. Santermans (Bel) - Van den Bogaert (Bel)
8. Pulincx (Bel) - Van de Wiele (Bel)
9. Brown (GBR) - Peters (GBR)
10. Clohse (Bel) - Bax (Ned)

moto 3

1. Sergis (Lat) - Stupelis (Lat)
2. Willemsen (Ned) - Gruter (Sui)
3. Hendrickx (Bel) - Smeuninx (Bel)
4. Rozehnal (CZE) - Rozenahl (CZE)
5. Bax (Ned) - Van Deutekom (Ned)
6. Steegmans (BEL) - Sabbe (BEL)
7. Brown (GBR) - Peters (GBR)
8. Rupeiks (Lat) - Kaelin (SUI)
9. Söderqvist (SWE) - Sylwan (Swe)
10. Pulincx (Bel) - Van de Wiele (Bel)

Eindstand

1. Holland 16p
2. Latvia 17p
3. Belgium 2 29p
4. Belgium 1 42p
5. Great Britain 45p
6. Tsjech Republic 53p
7. Sweden 54p
8. France 78p
9. Estonia 86p
10. Lithouania 92p
10/5/2008 11:37am
mumhra wrote:
This weekend is the sidecarcross of nations. Team USA is not present and then i thought about it.. i don't think i have ever seen sidecars...
This weekend is the sidecarcross of nations. Team USA is not present and then i thought about it.. i don't think i have ever seen sidecars racing in the USA. Do you guys have that ?

Here you can see the results of todays qualifying races together with 2 pics : http://www.mxworld.be/detail.php?classtodisplay=homepage&idtodisplay=61…

We don't do that, it's dumb. We win in the dirt in two wheels.
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Yeah, we won that one. HA!

I was in a race with Daniel Willemsen once when he entered a race on a "normal" MX bike. They had the sidecar engine in that thing though. 900cc 2 stroke!! He got the holeshot every moto.
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Why do some of them have the sidecar on the left side and others on the right? Do they have an option of which side they would like it to be on? I think its pretty hardcore. Imagine riding in a side car and trusting one of your crash addicted buddies twisting the throttle. Ha Ha I'd try it in a heartbeat. I have a few friends I'd like to throw out there. Do you have any pictures of them hitting some jumps?
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I have no idea why some have the sidecar on the right and others on the left. I think it just depends on the brand. I do know that most have the sidecar on the right.
And yes, this sport is hardcore. And so are the riders lol. This sport is not so pretty as mx where, with a smooth style you can achieve a lot. In this sport there is no room for smooth riders. All these guys are pretty hard fighters. Just imagine trying to overtake another sidecar with your sidecar. It's difficult to overtake someone with a dirtbike but with this wide thing it is almost impossible. No room to be smooth.. you have to fight your way to the front. Therefor most of these riders are big, strong, muscular guys who won't move an inch when they don't want to.

You can see a lot of pics on this website : http://www.vdv-pictures.be/ . Just click on "fotoalbum" and you will find a lot (and i do mean a lot) of pics of these sidecars. You will also find jumps but you have to remember that, because of the weight of these things, they won't jumps as far as normal dirtbikes. However... it still is pretty far, especially if you are the passenger :D
btw.. for some strange reason i don't seem to be able to find any scrubbing pics Wink :D

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Cool Mumhra. There are some bad ass photos on there. I just think that looks like so much fun. Are those specially made bikes or modified to fit the purpose? I noticed none of them seem to have traditional type front forks.
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They are specially made. There are factorys that make these frames and you just have to go out and buy an engine for it. That can be anything you want. 2 stroke, 4stroke, 250, 450,500,800,900,1000,.... It's your pick.
Even suspensions come from different factorys then normal mx. Reiger is by far the biggest provider of suspensions for these bikes but i have never seen a normal mx bike with Reiger suspension.

The sport is fun for sure. It's not as smooth or elegant as mx tho. It's rough, hardcore action. The roost that comes of the back of those bikes is insane. It's more then double of a normal dirtbike. One thing i hate about these things tho. If you run normal mx and you have to ride the heat after these beasts have riden you are in trouble. These sidecars make ruts that are so deep it's almost impossible to ride in with a normal bike. Best thing imo is to have a quad race after the sidecars. The quads make the tracks rideable again.
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10/6/2008 8:54am Edited Date/Time 10/6/2008 8:55am
mumhra wrote:
They are specially made. There are factorys that make these frames and you just have to go out and buy an engine for it. That can...
They are specially made. There are factorys that make these frames and you just have to go out and buy an engine for it. That can be anything you want. 2 stroke, 4stroke, 250, 450,500,800,900,1000,.... It's your pick.
Even suspensions come from different factorys then normal mx. Reiger is by far the biggest provider of suspensions for these bikes but i have never seen a normal mx bike with Reiger suspension.

The sport is fun for sure. It's not as smooth or elegant as mx tho. It's rough, hardcore action. The roost that comes of the back of those bikes is insane. It's more then double of a normal dirtbike. One thing i hate about these things tho. If you run normal mx and you have to ride the heat after these beasts have riden you are in trouble. These sidecars make ruts that are so deep it's almost impossible to ride in with a normal bike. Best thing imo is to have a quad race after the sidecars. The quads make the tracks rideable again.
We used to run Reiger shocks on our KX60's and KX80's a few years ago, they were really good and they were about the only shock we could get to fit the KX60 in a KX80 frame we had.

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