FC-Honda running Brembo/KTM

bradmx421
Profile picture for user bradmx421
Posts
1644
Joined
1/9/2010
Location
Riverside, CA US
bradmx421
Edited Date/Time 1/27/2012 4:48pm
....anyone notice that all the Factory Connection guys are now running Brembo Master Cylinders for better braking response? they actually purchased these units from Langston Motorsports...... and if you contact me directly i can get you a good deal on a set-up for yourself.



All of the Geico Hondas utilize a Brembo front brake master cylinder, which comes OEM on KTMs. The Brembo component is said to provide much-improved power and a better feel at the lever.
|
josh8811
Profile picture for user josh8811
Posts
504
Joined
11/13/2011
Location
Kaysville, UT US
josh8811 1/9/2012 6:43pm
1/9/2012 6:43pm
Wouldn't surprise me a bit if a oversized rotor is cheaper.. I've got a 2011 250SX and a 2011 YZ450 and the brakes on my YZ are a joke in comparison..
Deetsmx
Profile picture for user Deetsmx
Posts
886
Joined
4/21/2008
Location
Visalia, CA US
Deetsmx 1/9/2012 6:50pm
1/9/2012 6:50pm
They must have read my post on here last month, I knew the factory guys get their bike set up advice on vital.
MotoGUY
Profile picture for user MotoGUY
Posts
167
Joined
8/25/2010
Location
Huntersville, NC US
MotoGUY 1/9/2012 7:07pm
1/9/2012 7:07pm
They don't run these they did last year they run the factory master cylinder now
mattbmx63
Profile picture for user mattbmx63
Posts
574
Joined
7/25/2008
Location
Wallingford, CT US
mattbmx63 1/9/2012 8:15pm
1/9/2012 8:15pm
They are running those now. What's a setup like that cost compared to a big brake kit?

The Shop

See All »
Sunhouse
Profile picture for user Sunhouse
Posts
3598
Joined
3/2/2009
Location
NO
Sunhouse 1/9/2012 8:19pm
1/9/2012 8:19pm Edited Date/Time 1/9/2012 8:20pm
I don´t get it, is this an advert or an informative post....?
Deetsmx
Profile picture for user Deetsmx
Posts
886
Joined
4/21/2008
Location
Visalia, CA US
Deetsmx 1/9/2012 8:47pm
1/9/2012 8:47pm
mattbmx63 wrote:
They are running those now. What's a setup like that cost compared to a big brake kit?
I bought a used one on eBay for $30 off an 02 ktm. Sight window was completely scratched but I didn't care. Clean used ones run about 80-90 and I believe new about $130 but I could be wrong on that.
kibby
Profile picture for user kibby
Posts
79
Joined
1/9/2012
Location
El Cerrito, CA US
kibby 1/9/2012 9:25pm
1/9/2012 9:25pm
There are six pro riders and two amateurs at FC Racing, three different M/C specs are used between our eight guys.It's just another part to tailor set up for each individual.Oh and T Man that's dirt from roost.
bullpen58
Profile picture for user bullpen58
Posts
4400
Joined
8/15/2006
Location
Fresno, CA US
bullpen58 1/9/2012 10:06pm
1/9/2012 10:06pm
kibby wrote:
There are six pro riders and two amateurs at FC Racing, three different M/C specs are used between our eight guys.It's just another part to tailor...
There are six pro riders and two amateurs at FC Racing, three different M/C specs are used between our eight guys.It's just another part to tailor set up for each individual.Oh and T Man that's dirt from roost.
WTF do you know noob! How many SX championships have YOU won? Go ahead and hide behind your computer screen in your mom's basement little boy. This is Vital, where men are men and we know all there is to know about everything.

Oh wait, you're a mechanic for that team? Ahem, I meant to say "you're amazing smart and always right. GOOD JOB!!!"Tongue Woohoo
Underground 1/9/2012 11:24pm
1/9/2012 11:24pm
kibby wrote:
There are six pro riders and two amateurs at FC Racing, three different M/C specs are used between our eight guys.It's just another part to tailor...
There are six pro riders and two amateurs at FC Racing, three different M/C specs are used between our eight guys.It's just another part to tailor set up for each individual.Oh and T Man that's dirt from roost.
bullpen58 wrote:
WTF do you know noob! How many SX championships have YOU won? Go ahead and hide behind your computer screen in your mom's basement little boy...
WTF do you know noob! How many SX championships have YOU won? Go ahead and hide behind your computer screen in your mom's basement little boy. This is Vital, where men are men and we know all there is to know about everything.

Oh wait, you're a mechanic for that team? Ahem, I meant to say "you're amazing smart and always right. GOOD JOB!!!"Tongue Woohoo
Grinning
smiffnutz 1/10/2012 12:37am
1/10/2012 12:37am
Kib dog, telling it like it is!
Looks similar to the setup that John Wall ran at the 96 Coffs Harbour SX!
Shawn142
Profile picture for user Shawn142
Posts
2600
Joined
10/27/2008
Location
Burleson, TX US
Shawn142 1/10/2012 4:55am
1/10/2012 4:55am
I guess most of the FC guys use this in conjunction with the 270mm rotor setup?
Chili
Profile picture for user Chili
Posts
813
Joined
4/1/2008
Location
Winnipeg CA
Chili 1/10/2012 5:05am
1/10/2012 5:05am
bradmx421 wrote:
....anyone notice that all the Factory Connection guys are now running Brembo Master Cylinders for better braking response? they actually purchased these units from Langston Motorsports...
....anyone notice that all the Factory Connection guys are now running Brembo Master Cylinders for better braking response? they actually purchased these units from Langston Motorsports...... and if you contact me directly i can get you a good deal on a set-up for yourself.



All of the Geico Hondas utilize a Brembo front brake master cylinder, which comes OEM on KTMs. The Brembo component is said to provide much-improved power and a better feel at the lever.
Have you ever made a post here that wasn't at least indirectly spam related? We get it, you work at Langstons and can hook everyone up.
JB 19
Profile picture for user JB 19
Posts
4242
Joined
3/8/2009
Location
Marion, OH US
JB 19 1/10/2012 5:26am
1/10/2012 5:26am
I know that the pros are worried about rotating mass, but for the average Joe I would say just get a big rotor kit and be done with it.

I rode a lot of supermoto back in 04 and just ran a complete oem setup on the front with the exception of a 320 rotor. The braking power was unbelievable. Obviously thats over kill for dirt, but you get the idea.
Xeno
Profile picture for user Xeno
Posts
3656
Joined
12/30/2010
Location
San Clemente, CA US
Xeno 1/10/2012 5:40am
1/10/2012 5:40am
Unless you enter turns at Expert/Pro speeds, those oversize kits can be too powerful and cause you to lose the front end on hardpack.

I learned this the hard way...
wow123
Profile picture for user wow123
Posts
1162
Joined
4/27/2010
Location
AX
wow123 1/10/2012 6:11am
1/10/2012 6:11am
Off topic but

Why arent the radial mounted master cylinder and calipers making it to mx bikes?

Sports bike tech is years ahead of mx!

If mx bikes had radial master and caliper you wouldn't need a larger rotor I would think?
Grieby54
Profile picture for user Grieby54
Posts
2827
Joined
7/1/2008
Location
Castle Rock, CO US
Grieby54 1/10/2012 7:24am
1/10/2012 7:24am
Sunhouse wrote:
I don´t get it, is this an advert or an informative post....?
Yes.
MX558
Profile picture for user MX558
Posts
1869
Joined
4/1/2008
Location
US
MX558 1/10/2012 7:34am
1/10/2012 7:34am
wow123 wrote:
Off topic but Why arent the radial mounted master cylinder and calipers making it to mx bikes? Sports bike tech is years ahead of mx! If...
Off topic but

Why arent the radial mounted master cylinder and calipers making it to mx bikes?

Sports bike tech is years ahead of mx!

If mx bikes had radial master and caliper you wouldn't need a larger rotor I would think?
Because we don't need a 1/4 of the braking power of a road racer.

Pit Row

See All »
yamahamark22 1/10/2012 8:36am
1/10/2012 8:36am
bradmx421 wrote:
....anyone notice that all the Factory Connection guys are now running Brembo Master Cylinders for better braking response? they actually purchased these units from Langston Motorsports...
....anyone notice that all the Factory Connection guys are now running Brembo Master Cylinders for better braking response? they actually purchased these units from Langston Motorsports...... and if you contact me directly i can get you a good deal on a set-up for yourself.



All of the Geico Hondas utilize a Brembo front brake master cylinder, which comes OEM on KTMs. The Brembo component is said to provide much-improved power and a better feel at the lever.
hey can i get an email to contact you im looking at trying one out on my practice bike
TerryK
Profile picture for user TerryK
Posts
9899
Joined
8/17/2006
Location
CA
TerryK 1/10/2012 8:36am
1/10/2012 8:36am
KTM and Brembo are the same company?? Who Knew!!??
wow123
Profile picture for user wow123
Posts
1162
Joined
4/27/2010
Location
AX
wow123 1/10/2012 8:51am
1/10/2012 8:51am
wow123 wrote:
Off topic but Why arent the radial mounted master cylinder and calipers making it to mx bikes? Sports bike tech is years ahead of mx! If...
Off topic but

Why arent the radial mounted master cylinder and calipers making it to mx bikes?

Sports bike tech is years ahead of mx!

If mx bikes had radial master and caliper you wouldn't need a larger rotor I would think?
MX558 wrote:
Because we don't need a 1/4 of the braking power of a road racer.
as said: you could then use a smaller rotor which is better yes?

btw years ago it was said disc brakes were too powerful for dirt bikes
BESTY #72
Profile picture for user BESTY #72
Posts
425
Joined
11/4/2010
Location
GB
BESTY #72 1/10/2012 9:42am
1/10/2012 9:42am
MotoGUY wrote:
They don't run these they did last year they run the factory master cylinder now
Well, yeah they do..

They are factory supported this year. But run Brembo brakes, Pro taper bars and Yosh. Along with many other different sponsors from last year. (Alias and Muscle milk)

The picture of that is from A1 2012! It's not like the Prot taper equip. isn't enough to give that away..
CRF107
Profile picture for user CRF107
Posts
209
Joined
3/5/2007
Location
El Cajon, CA US
CRF107 1/10/2012 10:18am
1/10/2012 10:18am
If you want to see the oversized rotors they are running check out CRFSTUFF.COM. I can tell you from experience that they work great.
newmann
Profile picture for user newmann
Posts
24443
Joined
4/1/2008
Location
US
newmann 1/10/2012 10:33am
1/10/2012 10:33am
Is Dog Town Brakes still around? Used to be located in the same complex as Enzo I believe?? They would bore out stock master cylinders and install larger internals for better braking.
rustytrombone 1/10/2012 10:46am
1/10/2012 10:46am
kibby wrote:
There are six pro riders and two amateurs at FC Racing, three different M/C specs are used between our eight guys.It's just another part to tailor...
There are six pro riders and two amateurs at FC Racing, three different M/C specs are used between our eight guys.It's just another part to tailor set up for each individual.Oh and T Man that's dirt from roost.
Welp
mjskier
Profile picture for user mjskier
Posts
1880
Joined
4/1/2008
Location
CO US
mjskier 1/10/2012 10:53am
1/10/2012 10:53am
as said: you could then use a smaller rotor which is better yes?

Makes sense to me for the weight/gyro. But at what point is a rotor too small to dissipate heat fast enough?
Erick
Profile picture for user Erick
Posts
181
Joined
1/20/2010
Location
NL
Erick 1/10/2012 12:16pm
1/10/2012 12:16pm Edited Date/Time 1/10/2012 12:16pm
mjskier wrote:
[b]as said: you could then use a smaller rotor which is better yes?[/b] Makes sense to me for the weight/gyro. But at what point is a...
as said: you could then use a smaller rotor which is better yes?

Makes sense to me for the weight/gyro. But at what point is a rotor too small to dissipate heat fast enough?
A small disc has less leverage because it has a smaller diameter. And leaverage provides most of the braking power (a little braking power comes from the surface covered of the brakepad by one disc rotation)

You need to have some thinkness of the disc for the heat to dissapate in, like you said.

My very limited experience with brembo brakes is that they seem to 'feel' much better. I tend to lock up Nissin brakes where you have full confidence with the Brembo's. You just kinda know what's gonna happen. But that is just my opinion based on limited experience.
Underground 1/10/2012 2:18pm
1/10/2012 2:18pm
Unfuggin believable!!! Factory mechanic nuts up and comes on here to shed some light on why they run certain components but still the Vital gurus got argue the merits !?! Best to stay in your dyno room engine man and achieve something then argue with idiots.
TeamGreen
Profile picture for user TeamGreen
Posts
31773
Joined
11/25/2008
Location
Thru-out, CA US
TeamGreen 1/10/2012 3:29pm
1/10/2012 3:29pm
newmann wrote:
Is Dog Town Brakes still around? Used to be located in the same complex as Enzo I believe?? They would bore out stock master cylinders and...
Is Dog Town Brakes still around? Used to be located in the same complex as Enzo I believe?? They would bore out stock master cylinders and install larger internals for better braking.
This^^^

Add your fluid of choice and a Galfer 270 Wave.

Done.

Post a reply to: FC-Honda running Brembo/KTM