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Hey guys, just about to buy a new place in a couple weeks and I need a TV. I don’t know anything about them other than the times I walk into Costco and see the OLED or QLED on display and always say, “Look at those sick TVs and how crystal clear they are, we’re getting the best one when we move!” (Been doing it for years haha) 

Now the time has come. What should I avoid, what’s good etc I’ll play video games on it but nothing crazy. I just love the clearest, sharpest picture which seems to be these OLED types apparently. 

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The only thing I know is that you'll be much happier with a TV that has true (native)120 or 240hz refresh rate.

SX or any fast motion won't blur and make you feel drunk.

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You can’t go wrong with anything at Costco.

Any if the Samsung TVs are great.

75” seems to be the sweet spot.

I bought the 86” LG Tv and have been very happy with it.

I don’t get sucked into the QLED, OLED, 4K or 8k

 

If you get a Samsung, LG, or Sony you will be happy with it.

If you drop down into the budget TVs there is a noticeable picture quality difference. But it’s minor. I just bought my wife a Hinese 65” tv for like $350 at Costco. Works great for just using it in the garage for workout videos, etc.

I also bought I think a TCL 55” for maybe $299 at Costco. We just throw it in the car when we go to the cabin or whatever.

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TXDirt wrote:
You can’t go wrong with anything at Costco. Any if the Samsung TVs are great. 75” seems to be the sweet spot. I bought the 86”...

You can’t go wrong with anything at Costco.

Any if the Samsung TVs are great.

75” seems to be the sweet spot.

I bought the 86” LG Tv and have been very happy with it.

I don’t get sucked into the QLED, OLED, 4K or 8k

 

If you get a Samsung, LG, or Sony you will be happy with it.

If you drop down into the budget TVs there is a noticeable picture quality difference. But it’s minor. I just bought my wife a Hinese 65” tv for like $350 at Costco. Works great for just using it in the garage for workout videos, etc.

I also bought I think a TCL 55” for maybe $299 at Costco. We just throw it in the car when we go to the cabin or whatever.

Yep, Costco specs some really good TVs for the price. You can find almost the same TVs at Walmart, but be careful. There will be a 1 character difference in the model number and that difference is a pretty big deal. Walmart specs are proprietary, and they won’t be the same quality as the ones sold at Costco. 

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We've had a Sharp Aquos 54" LED going on 10 years here. No issues, works great, looks great. 

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TXDirt wrote:
You can’t go wrong with anything at Costco. Any if the Samsung TVs are great. 75” seems to be the sweet spot. I bought the 86”...

You can’t go wrong with anything at Costco.

Any if the Samsung TVs are great.

75” seems to be the sweet spot.

I bought the 86” LG Tv and have been very happy with it.

I don’t get sucked into the QLED, OLED, 4K or 8k

 

If you get a Samsung, LG, or Sony you will be happy with it.

If you drop down into the budget TVs there is a noticeable picture quality difference. But it’s minor. I just bought my wife a Hinese 65” tv for like $350 at Costco. Works great for just using it in the garage for workout videos, etc.

I also bought I think a TCL 55” for maybe $299 at Costco. We just throw it in the car when we go to the cabin or whatever.

Right on, what makes you say 75 inch seems to be the sweet spot? Anything bigger and it’s not as crystal clear? Just curious.

Yeah, I couldn’t tell the difference between the Samsung, LG, and the Sony OLED’s. They all look unreal 

1/16/2023 9:45am

I got a Sony brava, awesome tv but i have an i-phone and it wont let me mirror to it and several other annoying things since its android based.. so keep that in mind 

 

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I got a Sony brava, awesome tv but i have an i-phone and it wont let me mirror to it and several other annoying things since...

I got a Sony brava, awesome tv but i have an i-phone and it wont let me mirror to it and several other annoying things since its android based.. so keep that in mind 

 

Yep, Joe is right. I I’ve owned both the Bravia (which was awesome) and now it seems I’m exclusively Samsung. Been very happy with that brand. As someone mentioned, don’t get sucked into the 8k and other hype. My understanding is that the human eye can’t detect anything over 4K so why bother.

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My parents tv is massive and like 3d or something but my eyes just don't focus on it naturally, its like past the threshold of vision. Lol it's also so huge I feel like I have to move my head left and right to see everything. I have a bunch of large Samsongs and pretty happy with them.  Costco 

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1/16/2023 9:58am Edited Date/Time 1/16/2023 10:01am

Here's what I know about TVs: almost nothing. 

But I do know a few spec definitions, and I'll explain them here, as I understand them. Anyone with better info, please correct me:

LED: The light source is LED pixels, not RGB screen pixels. (Brighter light, richer colors.)

QLED: "Quad" LED. The base projections come from 4 colors, not the 3 standard RGB ones. Still LED.

Resolution: How many pixels per inch of screen. Old HD TVs were 480 or something. Then came 720, 1080, 4K, etc. As I understand it, TVs can now produce more pixels per inch than humans can discern. In other words, it doesn't matter how much "better" it gets from here. 4K or 5K is about the limit.

Refresh Rate or Frame Rate: Television used to be "painted" on your screen in horizontal lines 120 times per second, top to bottom, then bottom to top, skipping every other line on the way down, then filling the missed lines on the way up. Then, they started painting every line. Then, they started "painting" these lines even faster. The refresh rate refers to how fast these lines are changed per second. Like successive frames on celluloid film, the more the better to capture motion. The refresh rate is measured in Hertz (Hz,) which means "cycles per second." You are never actually looking at a solid image on the screen, but your eyes and brain aren't fast enough to detect the lines being painted. However, the faster this happens, the more convincing the illusion is. 

 

EDIT: Sorry, 1080p is not 1080 pixels per inch. the 1080 must refer to the number of pixels across the screen; its actual ppi rating is about 81 pixels per inch.

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Budget? You can get a 65" TV for 1k or 6k. All depends on what you want/need. 

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Falcon wrote:
Here's what I know about TVs: almost nothing.  But I do know a few spec definitions, and I'll explain them here, as I understand them. Anyone...

Here's what I know about TVs: almost nothing. 

But I do know a few spec definitions, and I'll explain them here, as I understand them. Anyone with better info, please correct me:

LED: The light source is LED pixels, not RGB screen pixels. (Brighter light, richer colors.)

QLED: "Quad" LED. The base projections come from 4 colors, not the 3 standard RGB ones. Still LED.

Resolution: How many pixels per inch of screen. Old HD TVs were 480 or something. Then came 720, 1080, 4K, etc. As I understand it, TVs can now produce more pixels per inch than humans can discern. In other words, it doesn't matter how much "better" it gets from here. 4K or 5K is about the limit.

Refresh Rate or Frame Rate: Television used to be "painted" on your screen in horizontal lines 120 times per second, top to bottom, then bottom to top, skipping every other line on the way down, then filling the missed lines on the way up. Then, they started painting every line. Then, they started "painting" these lines even faster. The refresh rate refers to how fast these lines are changed per second. Like successive frames on celluloid film, the more the better to capture motion. The refresh rate is measured in Hertz (Hz,) which means "cycles per second." You are never actually looking at a solid image on the screen, but your eyes and brain aren't fast enough to detect the lines being painted. However, the faster this happens, the more convincing the illusion is. 

 

EDIT: Sorry, 1080p is not 1080 pixels per inch. the 1080 must refer to the number of pixels across the screen; its actual ppi rating is about 81 pixels per inch.

also keep in mind there is a difference between side lit and back lit screens as well.... i paid more for a back lit and if i recall its better color definition but dont quote me.. 

Generally, back-lit TVs produce the best picture but use more power and are more expensive. While edge-lit televisions are cheaper but can produce a lower-quality image in some circumstances.Jul 1, 2022

1/16/2023 10:49am

side note, I went from a Samsung plasma to a higher end model Sony LED and no question the plasma was/is better. anyone know why they went away with plasma screens? I did a lot of research before i bought the Sony since it was years ago when they were a lot more money and love clear colorful screens 

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I still haven't seen a TV with a better picture than my old plasma...but it's not "bright" like the new stuff.  It takes a really dark room to appreciate.

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I had a 55” Magnavox rear projection tv that weighed a metric ton. Took up more space than most sub compact vehicles.

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Just get a normal 4k backlit monitor with at least a 240hz refresh rate, don't buy into the Oled/Qled non-sense. I work with and approve VFX work on shows that air in 4k and I promise you cannot see any difference. There is a depth and richness that comes with shooting stuff in 8k, and that gives us the ability to blow-up/ rep shots in editing without a noticeable quality loss, but you'll never see that streaming anything over the internet. 

EVERYTHING streamed online is compressed in one way or another.

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side note, I went from a Samsung plasma to a higher end model Sony LED and no question the plasma was/is better. anyone know why they...

side note, I went from a Samsung plasma to a higher end model Sony LED and no question the plasma was/is better. anyone know why they went away with plasma screens? I did a lot of research before i bought the Sony since it was years ago when they were a lot more money and love clear colorful screens 

Simply put the plasma screens were phased out. The early LED TV weren't that great compared to plasma screens, but with technological advancement they caught up, and with the prices steadily coming down the manufacturers were just selling more of them, so they pulled the plug on the plasma screens. 

Add in the introduction of OLED/QLED and 4K, and there was just no turning back.

I still think plasma screens rendered the deepest blacks, but the new screens are close. 

Like plowboy said, you really need a dark room to fully appreciate a plasma screen.

I would like to upgrade to a bigger TV, but the one's I'm interested in are just not in the budget at the moment. Higher end models are not cheap and the bigger the screen, the bigger the price tag.

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I’ve been buying Samsungs since flat screens were introduced and have had very good luck with them. If you are into sharp picture quality I’d def go with a QLED or OLED 

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I think this is a good source to start with.

https://www.rtings.com/tv

They do their ratings based on usage. For example if your main interest is sports viewing, they rate for that, or movies, or gaming, etc.

They also take into consideration viewing angle, room darkness, etc

They will also give you an idea on set-up settings for brightness, contrast, color etc

Good site!

 

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Thanks everyone, tons of helpful tips. I’ll review everything just before I purchase. Closing dates the 30th so I’ll need that bad boy soon after. Can’t even imagine how it’ll look in my living room, my tv now isn’t even a smart tv, and it’s probably over 10years old. I walk by those OLEDs on display at Costco and always stop in amazement. Gonna be sick 

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You can’t go wrong with anything at Costco. Any if the Samsung TVs are great. 75” seems to be the sweet spot. I bought the 86”...

You can’t go wrong with anything at Costco.

Any if the Samsung TVs are great.

75” seems to be the sweet spot.

I bought the 86” LG Tv and have been very happy with it.

I don’t get sucked into the QLED, OLED, 4K or 8k

 

If you get a Samsung, LG, or Sony you will be happy with it.

If you drop down into the budget TVs there is a noticeable picture quality difference. But it’s minor. I just bought my wife a Hinese 65” tv for like $350 at Costco. Works great for just using it in the garage for workout videos, etc.

I also bought I think a TCL 55” for maybe $299 at Costco. We just throw it in the car when we go to the cabin or whatever.

CDA331 wrote:
Right on, what makes you say 75 inch seems to be the sweet spot? Anything bigger and it’s not as crystal clear? Just curious. Yeah, I...

Right on, what makes you say 75 inch seems to be the sweet spot? Anything bigger and it’s not as crystal clear? Just curious.

Yeah, I couldn’t tell the difference between the Samsung, LG, and the Sony OLED’s. They all look unreal 

By sweet spot I mean price for the size.

Let’s say a quality 55” TV is $599

Then a quality 75” you find on sale for $799

Then jump up to say a 85” tv for $1,199

The $200 difference from 55 to 75 inch is worth it.

But the $400 jump from 75 to 85 inch really isn’t worth it.

So the sweet spot right now is 75” TVs. You really get a lot of TV for your money.

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Saw this at Costco today. I have this same TV and it’s awesome! $999 for an 86” LG!!!

Just go buy it now!

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Man that’s a smoking deal!!

You got that right.Woohoo. Buy a good sound bar or surround system...that's the only drawback to Visio...weak volume.

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Saw this at Costco today. I have this same TV and it’s awesome! $999 for an 86” LG!!! Just go buy it now!  

Saw this at Costco today. I have this same TV and it’s awesome! $999 for an 86” LG!!!

Just go buy it now!

88B77FA8-9172-4698-ACC0-802F60AEDBA5.jpeg?VersionId=m WUhX42jQoJzjC9tD

 

My computer's smoking just displaying that ad. Great deal. Who's so stupid to down vote that?

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TXDirt wrote:
Saw this at Costco today. I have this same TV and it’s awesome! $999 for an 86” LG!!! Just go buy it now!  

Saw this at Costco today. I have this same TV and it’s awesome! $999 for an 86” LG!!!

Just go buy it now!

88B77FA8-9172-4698-ACC0-802F60AEDBA5.jpeg?VersionId=m WUhX42jQoJzjC9tD

 

ToolMaker wrote:

My computer's smoking just displaying that ad. Great deal. Who's so stupid to down vote that?

TM

It’s a monster sized TV. We have it setup in our media room. Love it!! I seriously can’t believe it’s only $999. That’s insane!

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Man that’s a smoking deal!!

plowboy wrote:
You got that right.. Buy a good sound bar or surround system...that's the only drawback to Visio...weak volume.

You got that right.Woohoo. Buy a good sound bar or surround system...that's the only drawback to Visio...weak volume.

I have a visio tv and bought a visio sound bar thinking they would talk to each other better. I went through 3 visio sound bars before I said F them. Not sure which brand I have now but it's not quite right either but got tired of redoing all the wiring to put the bad units back in the box for return.

On the TV we watch most, it's a Sony. The kids bought me a bose sound bar. It's not exactly right but I can live with the quirk. I just doesn't sonetimes turn on with the remote turning the tv on. So I have to leave the bose remote on the coffee table to turn it on sometimes. Oh bother. First world problems!

TM

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I got a 77” Sony OLED last year and it has been great. My last three sets have been Sony but I have a 55” LG OLED in my spare room that I use for gaming and it has been a good tv. 

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TXDirt wrote:
You can’t go wrong with anything at Costco. Any if the Samsung TVs are great. 75” seems to be the sweet spot. I bought the 86”...

You can’t go wrong with anything at Costco.

Any if the Samsung TVs are great.

75” seems to be the sweet spot.

I bought the 86” LG Tv and have been very happy with it.

I don’t get sucked into the QLED, OLED, 4K or 8k

 

If you get a Samsung, LG, or Sony you will be happy with it.

If you drop down into the budget TVs there is a noticeable picture quality difference. But it’s minor. I just bought my wife a Hinese 65” tv for like $350 at Costco. Works great for just using it in the garage for workout videos, etc.

I also bought I think a TCL 55” for maybe $299 at Costco. We just throw it in the car when we go to the cabin or whatever.

CDA331 wrote:
Right on, what makes you say 75 inch seems to be the sweet spot? Anything bigger and it’s not as crystal clear? Just curious. Yeah, I...

Right on, what makes you say 75 inch seems to be the sweet spot? Anything bigger and it’s not as crystal clear? Just curious.

Yeah, I couldn’t tell the difference between the Samsung, LG, and the Sony OLED’s. They all look unreal 

It depends on size of the room and how far back you are sitting from the TV. We have 16 feet from the TV to where we sit so we have the Samsung 85" and its perfect. Now in too small of a room and too close you have to look around the screen or  move your eyes and or head side to side to see the best and that means you are to close. There are set distances for certain size TVs  for a 85" tv the minimum distance is about 10 to 11 feet away and that is to close in my book 14" or more seems to be the best for the bigger TVs 75"s to 85"s the best bet is go check out the size TV you want and they will have chairs set up at the optimal distances and see what works for you.  

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I have a visio tv and bought a visio sound bar thinking they would talk to each other better. I went through 3 visio sound bars...

I have a visio tv and bought a visio sound bar thinking they would talk to each other better. I went through 3 visio sound bars before I said F them. Not sure which brand I have now but it's not quite right either but got tired of redoing all the wiring to put the bad units back in the box for return.

On the TV we watch most, it's a Sony. The kids bought me a bose sound bar. It's not exactly right but I can live with the quirk. I just doesn't sonetimes turn on with the remote turning the tv on. So I have to leave the bose remote on the coffee table to turn it on sometimes. Oh bother. First world problems!

TM

Yep, my old Vizio came with a fiber optic connected sound bar.  It was bitchin'.  TV died.  My next tv had no fiber optic port.  Bought a few different sound bars but never got that good sound back.

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ToolMaker wrote:
I have a visio tv and bought a visio sound bar thinking they would talk to each other better. I went through 3 visio sound bars...

I have a visio tv and bought a visio sound bar thinking they would talk to each other better. I went through 3 visio sound bars before I said F them. Not sure which brand I have now but it's not quite right either but got tired of redoing all the wiring to put the bad units back in the box for return.

On the TV we watch most, it's a Sony. The kids bought me a bose sound bar. It's not exactly right but I can live with the quirk. I just doesn't sonetimes turn on with the remote turning the tv on. So I have to leave the bose remote on the coffee table to turn it on sometimes. Oh bother. First world problems!

TM

plowboy wrote:
Yep, my old Vizio came with a fiber optic connected sound bar.  It was bitchin'.  TV died.  My next tv had no fiber optic port.  Bought...

Yep, my old Vizio came with a fiber optic connected sound bar.  It was bitchin'.  TV died.  My next tv had no fiber optic port.  Bought a few different sound bars but never got that good sound back.

When you use the fiber optic, does the volume change with the TV remote? Like hdmi/arc?

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