I'm embarrassed to call myself South African

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Us white folk here do not support this shit. My humble apologies to ya all but we are stuck in the middle of this. Read the last few paragraphs down bellow. We face a uncertain bleak future.

JOHANNESBURG  South Africa is under fire for spending millions of dollars talking to terror group Hamas and sending delegations for cozy negotiations with U.S. adversaries Russia and Iran. Some critics say the money would be better spent tackling the "chaos" back home.

South Africa has the highest unemployment rate in the world, rampant crime and widespread corruption, which has led to large parts of Johannesburg having no water for 10 out of the past 11 days, and, nationally, power blackouts between four and 11 hours a day.

The U.S. helps South Africa gain billions of dollars a year in trade benefits through the African Growth and Opportunity Act, or AGOA.  Orde Kittrie, law professor at Arizona State University and senior fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, told Fox News Digital it’s time for South Africa to be thrown out of the program. 

"The ANC-led South African government has, in its relations with both Russia and Hamas, violated the requirement that AGOA beneficiaries not undermine U.S. national security and foreign policy and, with regard to Hamas, violated the requirement that AGOA beneficiaries not "provide support for acts of international terrorism," said Kittrie, who also served as a State Department attorney and policy officiaL

"The AGOA law’s requirements really leave the Biden administration no choice but to terminate South Africa’s AGOA benefits unless such activities cease."

South Africa continually makes controversial diplomatic moves, including allowing Russian ships to play war games just off the coast and permitting a Russian arms ship, the Lady R, to dock at a South African military base. This has attracted the attention of Sen. Tim Scott, the ranking Republican member of the Senate subcommittee on Africa and a member of the Senate subcommittee on banking. 

"South Africa has harbored sanctioned Russian ships, expanded relations with Iran and issued statements against Israel’s right to defend itself following Hamas’ recent terror attacks," Scott said in a recent statement.

Also, according to the USAID dashboard, Washington gave South Africa $660 million in aid in 2023.

Herman Mashaba, president of the relatively new political party ActionSA, told Fox News Digital, "The ruling party prioritizes Cold War-era alliances above the interests of the South African people. Our close relationship with Russia has jeopardized investment into the country, which cost jobs which South Africa cannot risk losing." 

At the same time, 86 people are killed in South Africa per day," Mashaba continued.  "Every 11 minutes, a woman is raped in this country. The ruling party has in 30 years been unable to address these crises and instead pays attention to everything except finding solutions to these issues." 

The State Department weighed in, telling Fox News Digital. "Russia is waging a brutal war against the people of Ukraine, and we are constantly working to cut off support and funding for Putin’s war machine and to undercut Russia’s ability to carry out this conflict," a department spokesperson said. "We have strongly urged countries not to support Russia’s war." 

On Tehran, the State Department spokesperson noted, "Iran is an adversary and the leading state sponsor of terrorism. It seeks to sow instability in the Middle East and around the world.

"We call on all countries to condemn Hamas, as Hamas is a designated terrorist organization and deserves condemnation," the spokesperson said.

J. Brooks Spector, a former U.S. diplomat and associate editor of  The Daily Maverick, spoke of his concerns to Fox News Digital:

"South Africa has rarely supported America internationally in grave crises such as the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

Beyond AGOA eligibility, South Africa might find itself at risk of seeing the major American contributions of PEPFAR funds combating HIV/AIDS begin to lessen or even end, as funds are shifted to other nations." 

This would be disastrous. Even with support from the U.S., South Africa has the largest HIV epidemic in the world, according to the Center for Strategic and International Studies.

"Part of the challenge for South Africa, going forward, is its desire for a foreign policy strategy that seeks to be a visible player in resolving international disputes far afield from its home continent such as Ukraine and Gaza, while largely ignoring equally urgent issues nearer to home," Spector said.

South Africa has "a completely chaotic approach to foreign policy in recent years," Emma Louise Powell told Fox News Digital. Powell is shadow minister for international relations for the country’s main opposition party, the Democratic Alliance, or DA.

Powell criticized the government for getting involved in talks on the Israel-Hamas war, "given the bloodbath unfolding in South Africa’s backyard, on the African continent, in countries such as Sudan, the DRC and across West Africa. This is not to mention the political and economic crisis in neighboring Zimbabwe.

"South Africa has not even condemned Russia’s illegal invasion. This is intellectually dishonest, given the funding the ANC is receiving from Russian-linked oligarchs and companies, and we see that this position is leading to South Africa’s increasing isolation."

Spector added, "Such a mix of behaviors means South Africa risks becoming increasingly irrelevant internationally, both as a country with real political heft and as a valuable investment and trade partner with anyone besides China."

Then there’s the systemic corruption. Two years ago, hundreds of senior politicians and businessmen, mostly linked to the ruling African National Congress, or ANC, were accused in the 5,000-page State Capture report for links to corruption, yet very few have been prosecuted. 

Many Washington foreign policy insiders are now for the first time seeing the ANC for what it has, sadly, become since (President Nelson) Mandela's retirement, a party whose rampant financial corruption has impoverished South Africa’s people and led it to ally itself with America’s enemies including Russia, Iran and Hamas," FDD’s Kittrie warned.

Earlier this week, Sen. Tim Scott tweeted, "The U.S. cannot continue to simply look the other way when it comes to corruption in South Africa. As we consider AGOA reauthorization, it’s important that we take steps to ensure the program’s eligibility requirements are actually enforced."

The State Department is so concerned about corruption in South Africa it sent Fox News Digital an additional statement that some analysts say contains a veiled threat. 

The fight against corruption is a core U.S. national security interest," the statement said. "The United States considers the use of several foreign policy tools for countering corruption, including but not limited to financial sanctions. Beyond this, it is the policy of the United States to not comment on internal deliberations regarding the use of sanctions or to preview potential actions."

Kittrie added, "U.S. officials are noticing that the ANC is not itself holding its corrupt officials accountable, with the ANC-led South African government reportedly making no significant progress in prosecuting South African officials who were bribed and, most recently, the ANC placing several corruption-tainted officials on its list for re-election."

Action SA’s Mashaba added "it is unacceptable that two years after the State Capture Report was submitted, not a single high-profile individual has successfully been prosecuted"

Last week, the South African Foreign Minister, Naledi Pandor, announced any South Africans with dual nationality who are fighting for Israel in Gaza will be arrested when they return. 

"We are ready. When you come home, we will arrest you," the minister said, referencing a long-standing law that South Africans may not fight in wars for other countries. Yet, when the Iraqi ambassador here claimed as many as 300 South Africans had left to take up arms for the terror group Islamic State in Syria in 2015, there were no such public threats of arrests for returning fighters.

Analysts predict Foreign Minister Pandor could face some tough questions during her visit to Washington, scheduled for this week. 

The ANC government is likely to lose sole and majority power of South Africa in elections coming in May. Last week’s latest poll by the Brenthurst Foundation predicts the ANC will only get 39% of the vote. The party is likely to go into coalition, with analysts predicting this probably will be with the "revolutionary" EFF, the Economic Freedom Fighters. 

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The EFF wants to grab White-owned farmland with no compensation, according to its election manifesto. 

"As the EFF, we have never promised [White people] that we will not take the land. We don’t owe them anything," EFF leader Julius Malema told cheering crowds at the manifesto’s launch. 

And the China-leaning EFF warned the 600 U.S. companies operating in South Africa that if the Americans working for them don’t like the EFF’s policies, "they can leave with immediate effect."

Fox News Digital reached out to both the South African Foreign Ministry and the ANC but did not receive a response.

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Seems the whole world is in a mess right now. 
 

The sad part here is that we are funding both sides of most of these wars. 

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I agree with you 100%

Every time I meet someone new in the states and they ask me where I'm from because of the accent, I bow my head in shame as I say south Africa. 

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Gworm wrote:
Seems the whole world is in a mess right now.    The sad part here is that we are funding both sides of most of these...

Seems the whole world is in a mess right now. 
 

The sad part here is that we are funding both sides of most of these wars. 

Well its not like that hasnt happened before. 

If only there were people who didnt  let them happen. 

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kyle_274 wrote:
I agree with you 100% Every time I meet someone new in the states and they ask me where I'm from because of the accent, I...

I agree with you 100%

Every time I meet someone new in the states and they ask me where I'm from because of the accent, I bow my head in shame as I say south Africa. 

Hey Kyle, what did you have to go through to get into the states? 

You don't have to answer if you don't want to. I'll understand.

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Boom...have you looked into Canada, Australia, New Zealand?  Not what you wanted maybe but better than setting on that powder keg.Dizzy

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3/18/2024 7:19am Edited Date/Time 3/18/2024 7:20am

Boom,

I’m embarrassed that our country won’t allow good, productive people like you in, but we are allowing what is going on at our border to happen. 

It’s 100% inexcusable. 

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kyle_274 wrote:
I agree with you 100% Every time I meet someone new in the states and they ask me where I'm from because of the accent, I...

I agree with you 100%

Every time I meet someone new in the states and they ask me where I'm from because of the accent, I bow my head in shame as I say south Africa. 

Boomslang wrote:

Hey Kyle, what did you have to go through to get into the states? 

You don't have to answer if you don't want to. I'll understand.

Hey, 

I worked here seasonally on the carnivals and met a girl and got engaged went back to sa. and did the 90 fiance visa to then come back here and got married. 

Can't say it was easy. Had to jump through a lot of hoops. And spent a ton of money on lawyer, filing fee, visa fee, medical examination, flights, etc.

Got citizenship to do this year. 

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Gworm wrote:
Boom, I’m embarrassed that our country won’t allow good, productive people like you in, but we are allowing what is going on at our border to...

Boom,

I’m embarrassed that our country won’t allow good, productive people like you in, but we are allowing what is going on at our border to happen. 

It’s 100% inexcusable. 

Thank you, that means so much but It's not that your country won't allow me in...it's that they make it so difficult and expensive for a blue color worker like me to cut the red tape...

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Hey,  I worked here seasonally on the carnivals and met a girl and got engaged went back to sa. and did the 90 fiance visa to...

Hey, 

I worked here seasonally on the carnivals and met a girl and got engaged went back to sa. and did the 90 fiance visa to then come back here and got married. 

Can't say it was easy. Had to jump through a lot of hoops. And spent a ton of money on lawyer, filing fee, visa fee, medical examination, flights, etc.

Got citizenship to do this year. 

Thanks Kyle, I should have done that when I was younger. 

I worked in the US many years ago and saved every dime and came back here to SA to become a helicopter pilot. I got my PPL and have flown a total of 1600 + hours rated on the R22, R44, S313, B206, AB204 and B205..most of my time is turbine. Sadly, even though I fly well and know my exams I never could pass the Commercial exams as we were on the clock.

I went back to wrenching in MX and it's extremely difficult to get into the US as a low life mechanic.

I'm stuck here doing metal fabrication...specialist stuff that I'm proud of but I stress for my family as in the near future We will be facing a genocide like the Rhodesians went through.

I don't sleep well from the stress of what's to come.

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kyle_274 wrote:
Hey,  I worked here seasonally on the carnivals and met a girl and got engaged went back to sa. and did the 90 fiance visa to...

Hey, 

I worked here seasonally on the carnivals and met a girl and got engaged went back to sa. and did the 90 fiance visa to then come back here and got married. 

Can't say it was easy. Had to jump through a lot of hoops. And spent a ton of money on lawyer, filing fee, visa fee, medical examination, flights, etc.

Got citizenship to do this year. 

Boomslang wrote:
Thanks Kyle, I should have done that when I was younger.  I worked in the US many years ago and saved every dime and came back...

Thanks Kyle, I should have done that when I was younger. 

I worked in the US many years ago and saved every dime and came back here to SA to become a helicopter pilot. I got my PPL and have flown a total of 1600 + hours rated on the R22, R44, S313, B206, AB204 and B205..most of my time is turbine. Sadly, even though I fly well and know my exams I never could pass the Commercial exams as we were on the clock.

I went back to wrenching in MX and it's extremely difficult to get into the US as a low life mechanic.

I'm stuck here doing metal fabrication...specialist stuff that I'm proud of but I stress for my family as in the near future We will be facing a genocide like the Rhodesians went through.

I don't sleep well from the stress of what's to come.

I don't blame you. I'm happy I was able to get out when I did. 

But the thought of my dad and friends still living there is saddening. 

 

3/18/2024 10:24am Edited Date/Time 3/18/2024 10:27am

I've noticed a real increase in South Africans moving to the UK in the past few years, and British people moving back for good.

Had loads of family living there, even had a relative who fought with the South Africans at Delville wood on the Somme in WW1 so they had roots, but they have all got out. 

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A good friend of mine just found out his son is going to Cape Town for his church mission.  Stresses me out.

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plowboy wrote:
Boom...have you looked into Canada, Australia, New Zealand?  Not what you wanted maybe but better than setting on that powder keg.

Boom...have you looked into Canada, Australia, New Zealand?  Not what you wanted maybe but better than setting on that powder keg.Dizzy

We are not good , (and Canada is a lot worse) 

 

but we have no where near the law the order issues of South Africa , and the government ineptitude 

 

and boom , at least your rugby  world champs 

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plowboy wrote:
Boom...have you looked into Canada, Australia, New Zealand?  Not what you wanted maybe but better than setting on that powder keg.

Boom...have you looked into Canada, Australia, New Zealand?  Not what you wanted maybe but better than setting on that powder keg.Dizzy

scott_nz wrote:
We are not good , (and Canada is a lot worse)    but we have no where near the law the order issues of South Africa...

We are not good , (and Canada is a lot worse) 

 

but we have no where near the law the order issues of South Africa , and the government ineptitude 

 

and boom , at least your rugby  world champs 

Canada has government ineptitude to the 9th degree, and the way the laws are slowly moving is pretty scary too.

 

We're also overtaxed if you're someone who earns a living.

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Boomslang wrote:
Thanks Kyle, I should have done that when I was younger.  I worked in the US many years ago and saved every dime and came back...

Thanks Kyle, I should have done that when I was younger. 

I worked in the US many years ago and saved every dime and came back here to SA to become a helicopter pilot. I got my PPL and have flown a total of 1600 + hours rated on the R22, R44, S313, B206, AB204 and B205..most of my time is turbine. Sadly, even though I fly well and know my exams I never could pass the Commercial exams as we were on the clock.

I went back to wrenching in MX and it's extremely difficult to get into the US as a low life mechanic.

I'm stuck here doing metal fabrication...specialist stuff that I'm proud of but I stress for my family as in the near future We will be facing a genocide like the Rhodesians went through.

I don't sleep well from the stress of what's to come.

Do you have a fixed wing license as well? 

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LungButter wrote:

A good friend of mine just found out his son is going to Cape Town for his church mission.  Stresses me out.

Cape Town is the best City in South Africa, there still is crime and certain places should be avoided so your friend's son should be ok.

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Boomslang wrote:
Thanks Kyle, I should have done that when I was younger.  I worked in the US many years ago and saved every dime and came back...

Thanks Kyle, I should have done that when I was younger. 

I worked in the US many years ago and saved every dime and came back here to SA to become a helicopter pilot. I got my PPL and have flown a total of 1600 + hours rated on the R22, R44, S313, B206, AB204 and B205..most of my time is turbine. Sadly, even though I fly well and know my exams I never could pass the Commercial exams as we were on the clock.

I went back to wrenching in MX and it's extremely difficult to get into the US as a low life mechanic.

I'm stuck here doing metal fabrication...specialist stuff that I'm proud of but I stress for my family as in the near future We will be facing a genocide like the Rhodesians went through.

I don't sleep well from the stress of what's to come.

Gworm wrote:

Do you have a fixed wing license as well? 

I don't Kyle and my rotor wing license lapsed around 2012 or there abouts...I can't remember it's been so long.

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plowboy wrote:
Boom...have you looked into Canada, Australia, New Zealand?  Not what you wanted maybe but better than setting on that powder keg.

Boom...have you looked into Canada, Australia, New Zealand?  Not what you wanted maybe but better than setting on that powder keg.Dizzy

I have Plowboy but never seriously. It has always been the USA or nothing. 

The USA has...or had....probably still has a lot to offer me. 

Sadly age is against me now, I got to make the best of what I've got here and hope that we don't end up going through what the Rhodesians went through.

Most of us here have a sweet pension policy....it's called the LottoLaughing if I hit that thing then I'm sweet...

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plowboy wrote:
Boom...have you looked into Canada, Australia, New Zealand?  Not what you wanted maybe but better than setting on that powder keg.

Boom...have you looked into Canada, Australia, New Zealand?  Not what you wanted maybe but better than setting on that powder keg.Dizzy

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I have Plowboy but never seriously. It has always been the USA or nothing.  The USA has...or had....probably still has a lot to offer me.  Sadly...

I have Plowboy but never seriously. It has always been the USA or nothing. 

The USA has...or had....probably still has a lot to offer me. 

Sadly age is against me now, I got to make the best of what I've got here and hope that we don't end up going through what the Rhodesians went through.

Most of us here have a sweet pension policy....it's called the LottoLaughing if I hit that thing then I'm sweet...

I hear ya.  I was just thinking that some place that you don't have worry about being chopped up or burned alive would be better.  I know bad stuff can happen anywhere but your neck of the woods seems pretty risky.  Hope you get a break.Sad

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3/19/2024 8:20am Edited Date/Time 3/19/2024 8:56am
Gworm wrote:
Boom, I’m embarrassed that our country won’t allow good, productive people like you in, but we are allowing what is going on at our border to...

Boom,

I’m embarrassed that our country won’t allow good, productive people like you in, but we are allowing what is going on at our border to happen. 

It’s 100% inexcusable. 

This is so true and pathetic.  Just more proof we live in upside down world.  

Boom, could you come to the US and then just not go back?  Overstay your visa?  Not sure what the consequences are for that for future residency here, jobs, etc.  How ironic would it be though if we were chasing down people who overstayed their Visas while allowing what is going on at the southern border.  (I know this is a hypocritical suggestion)

I wonder if South Africans could eventually become recognized asylum seekers given how bad things are there?  I look at the headlines coming out of SA every once in a while. Its just insane what has happened to that country over the last 30 years, especially the last 10 years or so.      

Hope things get better...      

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Gworm wrote:
Boom, I’m embarrassed that our country won’t allow good, productive people like you in, but we are allowing what is going on at our border to...

Boom,

I’m embarrassed that our country won’t allow good, productive people like you in, but we are allowing what is going on at our border to happen. 

It’s 100% inexcusable. 

NorCal1975 wrote:
This is so true and pathetic.  Just more proof we live in upside down world.   Boom, could you come to the US and then just not...

This is so true and pathetic.  Just more proof we live in upside down world.  

Boom, could you come to the US and then just not go back?  Overstay your visa?  Not sure what the consequences are for that for future residency here, jobs, etc.  How ironic would it be though if we were chasing down people who overstayed their Visas while allowing what is going on at the southern border.  (I know this is a hypocritical suggestion)

I wonder if South Africans could eventually become recognized asylum seekers given how bad things are there?  I look at the headlines coming out of SA every once in a while. Its just insane what has happened to that country over the last 30 years, especially the last 10 years or so.      

Hope things get better...      

It's not that simple, if I was single yes but I have a wife and two daughters.

My wife has been working fir a American company for 26 yrs. HervheD office is in Houston...Smith International.

She looks after Sub - Saharan Africa...she has begged..pleaded for a transfer to the USA but they keep turning her down. 

The reason is that they would then need to send an American family here at huge cost to run the office.

Honestly, I don't know what to do anymore but to try and make the most of what we have here. 

The future is uncertain...us white folk here face a genocide...it's only a matter of time.

The wealthy folk are leaving already...

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I agree with you 100% Every time I meet someone new in the states and they ask me where I'm from because of the accent, I...

I agree with you 100%

Every time I meet someone new in the states and they ask me where I'm from because of the accent, I bow my head in shame as I say south Africa. 

I was in North Africa many years ago. Met some people from South Africa, they were nice people. However they stated I spoke slang English. Being a young Canadian. I smiled, and agreed (hockey talk). 😀

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It's not that simple, if I was single yes but I have a wife and two daughters. My wife has been working fir a American company...

It's not that simple, if I was single yes but I have a wife and two daughters.

My wife has been working fir a American company for 26 yrs. HervheD office is in Houston...Smith International.

She looks after Sub - Saharan Africa...she has begged..pleaded for a transfer to the USA but they keep turning her down. 

The reason is that they would then need to send an American family here at huge cost to run the office.

Honestly, I don't know what to do anymore but to try and make the most of what we have here. 

The future is uncertain...us white folk here face a genocide...it's only a matter of time.

The wealthy folk are leaving already...

Orania sounds safe?

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Boom, it seems every second person in Perth / WA is Sef Efrican. I kid you bloody well Not!

And, it's Mining Industry is prominent, and thus, Engineering and Metalwork skills demand is still, quite high.

Bit of a shame you haven't kept you 'copter licensing up, as there's always demands for whirligig pilots - not sure how much / how high a license is needed for station flying - though, that really is a young man's / lunatics line of work, and often kept within the family in stations. I always scratch my head at how the f**k some of the cretins I've met, that are flying on stations, ever got through licensing.

You might want to check all that out, if you haven't.

Mind you, your age might be a hindrance for coming here - you're in your 50s, right?

And, as always, with moving to 'The West' - though, we are in 'The Middle' - having Money, and More of it, is the Big(gest) Thing for easing immigration. 

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