Who is Your Pick for the 2023 250 Pro Motocross Title?

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Poll time! Who's your pick for the 2023 Pro Motocross 250 class championship?

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Who will win the '23 250 Pro Motocross title?

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5/25/2023 3:38am

Heart says Jeremy Martin but gut says Hunter

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This has the potential to be an all timer.

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I feel that Cooper is going to slap these boys around. 

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5/25/2023 5:57am

The 250 class this year has all the makings of a great season.  5-7 guys can win races and be in the hunt...

I think Cooper will finally have that consistency needed, but it's likely down to the last moto.

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5/25/2023 6:24am

Everyone in this poll will at the very least win a moto. 

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5/25/2023 7:27am

Tom Vialle will be fast outdoors, but I think the AMA guys will have the benefit of track familiarity. Justin Cooper FTW!

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238 Haiden Deegan! just like Villopoto did in 2006!

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Everyone's sleeping on Vialle. I know, I know, new tracks, new format, relatively new bike....

The kid has 2 MX2 titles and 24 MX2 overall wins, and he's raced in all sorts of conditions worldwide. What we call "rough" isn't going to faze him as much as people think. Hunter is fast but he has 1 overall win in 2 years. Justin Cooper has 4 wins, and Jo has yet to win. 

I know it's not the popular pick but, if KTM can build him a competitive 250 like he had in MX2, I think he'll be hard to beat. 

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Falcon wrote:

Tom Vialle will be fast outdoors, but I think the AMA guys will have the benefit of track familiarity. Justin Cooper FTW!

I think the opposite about tracks. Vialle is gonna have a lot of fun on those beautiful and well prepared tracks compared to hard and rutted MXGP tracks. I m more concern about the adaptation about humidity and heat for Tom. Tom is 2 times world champion and people talk like it means nothing 😅. Tom is also a holeshot master. 

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TriRacer27 wrote:
Everyone's sleeping on Vialle. I know, I know, new tracks, new format, relatively new bike.... The kid has 2 MX2 titles and 24 MX2 overall wins...

Everyone's sleeping on Vialle. I know, I know, new tracks, new format, relatively new bike....

The kid has 2 MX2 titles and 24 MX2 overall wins, and he's raced in all sorts of conditions worldwide. What we call "rough" isn't going to faze him as much as people think. Hunter is fast but he has 1 overall win in 2 years. Justin Cooper has 4 wins, and Jo has yet to win. 

I know it's not the popular pick but, if KTM can build him a competitive 250 like he had in MX2, I think he'll be hard to beat. 

What do you mean with yet to win, Jo had two overalls last year? 

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5/25/2023 8:10am

Everyone will be seeing Hunters back fender.. 

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Sushi!!!

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TriRacer27 wrote:
Everyone's sleeping on Vialle. I know, I know, new tracks, new format, relatively new bike.... The kid has 2 MX2 titles and 24 MX2 overall wins...

Everyone's sleeping on Vialle. I know, I know, new tracks, new format, relatively new bike....

The kid has 2 MX2 titles and 24 MX2 overall wins, and he's raced in all sorts of conditions worldwide. What we call "rough" isn't going to faze him as much as people think. Hunter is fast but he has 1 overall win in 2 years. Justin Cooper has 4 wins, and Jo has yet to win. 

I know it's not the popular pick but, if KTM can build him a competitive 250 like he had in MX2, I think he'll be hard to beat. 

Question, who was the last world champ to come over to the US and win a Pro Motocross title in their first attempt?

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5/25/2023 8:47am

There's always a first....but I picked him for third

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TriRacer27 wrote:
Everyone's sleeping on Vialle. I know, I know, new tracks, new format, relatively new bike.... The kid has 2 MX2 titles and 24 MX2 overall wins...

Everyone's sleeping on Vialle. I know, I know, new tracks, new format, relatively new bike....

The kid has 2 MX2 titles and 24 MX2 overall wins, and he's raced in all sorts of conditions worldwide. What we call "rough" isn't going to faze him as much as people think. Hunter is fast but he has 1 overall win in 2 years. Justin Cooper has 4 wins, and Jo has yet to win. 

I know it's not the popular pick but, if KTM can build him a competitive 250 like he had in MX2, I think he'll be hard to beat. 

ML512 wrote:

Question, who was the last world champ to come over to the US and win a Pro Motocross title in their first attempt?

Has that ever happened? Definitely not recently. Maybe Bayle?

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TriRacer27 wrote:
Everyone's sleeping on Vialle. I know, I know, new tracks, new format, relatively new bike.... The kid has 2 MX2 titles and 24 MX2 overall wins...

Everyone's sleeping on Vialle. I know, I know, new tracks, new format, relatively new bike....

The kid has 2 MX2 titles and 24 MX2 overall wins, and he's raced in all sorts of conditions worldwide. What we call "rough" isn't going to faze him as much as people think. Hunter is fast but he has 1 overall win in 2 years. Justin Cooper has 4 wins, and Jo has yet to win. 

I know it's not the popular pick but, if KTM can build him a competitive 250 like he had in MX2, I think he'll be hard to beat. 

Currenty Vialle is the 3rd favorite in the vote so I'm not sure what you mean by everyone is sleeping on him. Seems a lot of people think he's capable.

Also Jo has 2 outdoor overall wins not 0.

 

I find myself doubting Cooper a little bit. He's taken a lot of time off racing and I just feel that is going to hurt him. He should have continued racing the 450 in supercross. 

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TriRacer27 wrote:
Everyone's sleeping on Vialle. I know, I know, new tracks, new format, relatively new bike.... The kid has 2 MX2 titles and 24 MX2 overall wins...

Everyone's sleeping on Vialle. I know, I know, new tracks, new format, relatively new bike....

The kid has 2 MX2 titles and 24 MX2 overall wins, and he's raced in all sorts of conditions worldwide. What we call "rough" isn't going to faze him as much as people think. Hunter is fast but he has 1 overall win in 2 years. Justin Cooper has 4 wins, and Jo has yet to win. 

I know it's not the popular pick but, if KTM can build him a competitive 250 like he had in MX2, I think he'll be hard to beat. 

Vialle is my pick too, funny that he's almost under the radar.

5/25/2023 12:09pm
TriRacer27 wrote:
Everyone's sleeping on Vialle. I know, I know, new tracks, new format, relatively new bike.... The kid has 2 MX2 titles and 24 MX2 overall wins...

Everyone's sleeping on Vialle. I know, I know, new tracks, new format, relatively new bike....

The kid has 2 MX2 titles and 24 MX2 overall wins, and he's raced in all sorts of conditions worldwide. What we call "rough" isn't going to faze him as much as people think. Hunter is fast but he has 1 overall win in 2 years. Justin Cooper has 4 wins, and Jo has yet to win. 

I know it's not the popular pick but, if KTM can build him a competitive 250 like he had in MX2, I think he'll be hard to beat. 

What we call heat and humidity will kick his ass. 

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5/25/2023 12:12pm

I am going with a long shot in RJ.  He has the speed, he has the desire, he has the strength and stamina.  If he just doesn't make the stupid mistakes of the past (washout again and again!!!!) he has Hunter's number.

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Tom Vialle

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TriRacer27 wrote:
Everyone's sleeping on Vialle. I know, I know, new tracks, new format, relatively new bike.... The kid has 2 MX2 titles and 24 MX2 overall wins...

Everyone's sleeping on Vialle. I know, I know, new tracks, new format, relatively new bike....

The kid has 2 MX2 titles and 24 MX2 overall wins, and he's raced in all sorts of conditions worldwide. What we call "rough" isn't going to faze him as much as people think. Hunter is fast but he has 1 overall win in 2 years. Justin Cooper has 4 wins, and Jo has yet to win. 

I know it's not the popular pick but, if KTM can build him a competitive 250 like he had in MX2, I think he'll be hard to beat. 

ML512 wrote:

Question, who was the last world champ to come over to the US and win a Pro Motocross title in their first attempt?

crusty_xx wrote:

Has that ever happened? Definitely not recently. Maybe Bayle?

Pierre Karsmaker. 

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5/25/2023 1:24pm

Vialle is slept on, he looked like he was on another level compared to Shimoda from the pala, perris, and Glen helen riding videos. He also has the experience of winning outdoor championships unlike Hunter or Cooper who notoriously make mistakes in the back half of the season.

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Falcon wrote:

Tom Vialle will be fast outdoors, but I think the AMA guys will have the benefit of track familiarity. Justin Cooper FTW!

WCRider wrote:
I think the opposite about tracks. Vialle is gonna have a lot of fun on those beautiful and well prepared tracks compared to hard and rutted...

I think the opposite about tracks. Vialle is gonna have a lot of fun on those beautiful and well prepared tracks compared to hard and rutted MXGP tracks. I m more concern about the adaptation about humidity and heat for Tom. Tom is 2 times world champion and people talk like it means nothing 😅. Tom is also a holeshot master. 

As "easy" as the tracks are going to seem to him, he still hasn't had a lot of laps on them. There's a benefit to knowing where all the weird holes form, what lines to look for, etc. Heat is another factor, as you mentioned. I don't think speed will be a problem at all, and his championship experience will help. I wouldn't be surprised if he wins it, but I'll be less surprised if it's Cooper or Lawrence.  

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ML512 wrote:

Question, who was the last world champ to come over to the US and win a Pro Motocross title in their first attempt?

crusty_xx wrote:

Has that ever happened? Definitely not recently. Maybe Bayle?

ARM670 wrote:

Pierre Karsmaker. 

That was before my time Pinch

I believe Bayle also did it. But anyway, that's only 2 riders out of many that tried. Shows how tough it is to switch to a new series regardless of how good you are

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5/25/2023 2:24pm

I just wanna see Sushi Joe put Hunter on the ground a few times this year. 

 

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crusty_xx wrote:

Has that ever happened? Definitely not recently. Maybe Bayle?

ARM670 wrote:

Pierre Karsmaker. 

crusty_xx wrote:
That was before my time  I believe Bayle also did it. But anyway, that's only 2 riders out of many that tried. Shows how tough it...

That was before my time Pinch

I believe Bayle also did it. But anyway, that's only 2 riders out of many that tried. Shows how tough it is to switch to a new series regardless of how good you are

Bayle did not, he broke his arm while leading the points in the 1990 125 nationals. I think Washougal. Langston was closer until wheel came apart in the last moto.

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If 2023 J Coop is as strong as 2021 J Coop, I think he takes the title. Dude is a damn good rider and I don't think he was close to 100% last year.

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