What Should the Future of MX and Off-Road Motorcycles Look Like? - Survey

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Edited Date/Time 4/12/2024 8:28am

One of our OEM Partners wants your take and opinions. As such, you're invited to participate in an exclusive survey that aims to revolutionize the Human to Off-Road Motorcycle interface. The Vital MX forum and its' community is full of individuals who possess a keen eye for innovation and a passion for the industry, which will help our OEM partner determine the most important features to consider for their next Off-Road evolution. 

On top of that and to express their gratitude for your valuable insights, those who qualify and complete the survey will be entered to win one of the 29 sweepstakes prizes listed below. Please note - at this time the survey is only open to models 2018 and newer.

CLICK HERE to take the survey.

SWEEPSTAKES PRIZES:

1 x $5,000
1 x $2,500
1 x $1,000
1 x $500
25 x $100

29 Winners

$11,500 Total in Prizes

This survey will be open for a limited time, so please complete it as soon as possible. Winners will be drawn on June 15, 2024.

NO PURCHASE NECESSARY. The Y2405 Survey Sweepstakes is open only to legal residents of the 50 United States (and DC) who are at least eighteen (18) years old at the time of entry. The sweepstakes starts on April 9, 2024, at 12:01 a.m. ET and ends on June 1, 2024, at 11:59 p.m. ET. For Official Rules, visit https://www.clarityresearch.com/y2405rules. Void where prohibited. Sponsored by Clarity Research, P.O. Box 1316, Cedar Park, TX 78630.

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ML512
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4/11/2024 8:50am

Everyone always has an opinion on what OEMs should do, here's your chance to give them some feedback that will be gone over thoroughly. Smile

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4/11/2024 9:02am

Just completed. The questions were very interesting, and I am glad they were asked and an OEM is taking the initiative to build what we want. 

4/11/2024 10:36am

The first time I selected my bike as my old race bike a 2001 RM250. It ended the survey almost immediately, so I opened the link again and it said it had already been submitted, so I opened in a private window and selected my bike as my gas gas 350 and then it had me go through the many various survey questions.  

 

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4/11/2024 9:52pm

Any guesses as to which OEM is behind the survey? Yamaha staying ahead of the curve, Honda analyzing the space before committing, PIERER Mobility searching for additional functions/features. Suzuki’s overall lack of R&D and Kawasaki’s first-gen KX450 app limitations keep them off my list…

 

Good questions, either way!

4/11/2024 10:13pm
showtimemx wrote:
The first time I selected my bike as my old race bike a 2001 RM250. It ended the survey almost immediately, so I opened the link...

The first time I selected my bike as my old race bike a 2001 RM250. It ended the survey almost immediately, so I opened the link again and it said it had already been submitted, so I opened in a private window and selected my bike as my gas gas 350 and then it had me go through the many various survey questions.  

 

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Well, it seems a bit of a f**k up with this survey, in the almost instant dismissal when you put in an older model bike, or a different brand that's not listed.

In that, quite a few people have a few bikes, and, like I, started with an older bike. To be dismissed, so to speak.

I've other, newer bikes than my beloved old dinosaur, but led with that. 

And, I'm a continual 'customer' with regards to bikes I want to get, want to see produced, as a fair few are.

So, they miss out on a lot of consumers opinions and wants.

As I wrote, it's quite the f**k up when it comes to this being a meaningful and accurate survey.

 

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4/11/2024 11:24pm
Bearuno wrote:
Well, it seems a bit of a f**k up with this survey, in the almost instant dismissal when you put in an older model bike, or...

Well, it seems a bit of a f**k up with this survey, in the almost instant dismissal when you put in an older model bike, or a different brand that's not listed.

In that, quite a few people have a few bikes, and, like I, started with an older bike. To be dismissed, so to speak.

I've other, newer bikes than my beloved old dinosaur, but led with that. 

And, I'm a continual 'customer' with regards to bikes I want to get, want to see produced, as a fair few are.

So, they miss out on a lot of consumers opinions and wants.

As I wrote, it's quite the f**k up when it comes to this being a meaningful and accurate survey.

 

It's a confirmation bias survey.

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4/12/2024 12:33am

Man, that was really interesting.

Laughing

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4/12/2024 3:50am

Thank you for trying to take our survey. Dure to an overwhelming response, our quotas are full for your model.

 

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I have been riding for roughly fifty years. When we were younger, we thought riding would eventually be like ski resorts or golf courses. People come in rent bikes and ride the woods or courses for a fee or annual pass. We thought bikes would continue to get lighter, more user friendly, and easier to maintain. A direction that would be more inclusive to more people riding. It didn't work out that way, the way bikes are now. High horsepower, disc brakes, heavy weight, aggressive tires, complex builds, has resulted in bikes that are more damaging to tracks and trails and are more difficult for the new riders to be introduced to.

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4/12/2024 6:40am Edited Date/Time 4/12/2024 6:41am
Spoonguy wrote:
I have been riding for roughly fifty years. When we were younger, we thought riding would eventually be like ski resorts or golf courses. People come...

I have been riding for roughly fifty years. When we were younger, we thought riding would eventually be like ski resorts or golf courses. People come in rent bikes and ride the woods or courses for a fee or annual pass. We thought bikes would continue to get lighter, more user friendly, and easier to maintain. A direction that would be more inclusive to more people riding. It didn't work out that way, the way bikes are now. High horsepower, disc brakes, heavy weight, aggressive tires, complex builds, has resulted in bikes that are more damaging to tracks and trails and are more difficult for the new riders to be introduced to.

I believe Electric bikes resolve the user friendly/easier to maintain aspect but the battery technology just isn't quite there yet for a lot of dudes. If you took the survey it was very much hinting that they want to put a cell phone on the bike. How else are you going to get the data the survey asks about (heart rate, lap analytics, fuel consumption, coolant temp, gps, etc..). I can only assume they want to integrate your phone in the handlebar and only allow you to use those functions with a subscription. Shit, the survey asked how much you were interested in being able to order parts and oil directly from your bike instead of a shop/website. 

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4/12/2024 10:51am
Spoonguy wrote:
I have been riding for roughly fifty years. When we were younger, we thought riding would eventually be like ski resorts or golf courses. People come...

I have been riding for roughly fifty years. When we were younger, we thought riding would eventually be like ski resorts or golf courses. People come in rent bikes and ride the woods or courses for a fee or annual pass. We thought bikes would continue to get lighter, more user friendly, and easier to maintain. A direction that would be more inclusive to more people riding. It didn't work out that way, the way bikes are now. High horsepower, disc brakes, heavy weight, aggressive tires, complex builds, has resulted in bikes that are more damaging to tracks and trails and are more difficult for the new riders to be introduced to.

kNewc wrote:
I believe Electric bikes resolve the user friendly/easier to maintain aspect but the battery technology just isn't quite there yet for a lot of dudes. If...

I believe Electric bikes resolve the user friendly/easier to maintain aspect but the battery technology just isn't quite there yet for a lot of dudes. If you took the survey it was very much hinting that they want to put a cell phone on the bike. How else are you going to get the data the survey asks about (heart rate, lap analytics, fuel consumption, coolant temp, gps, etc..). I can only assume they want to integrate your phone in the handlebar and only allow you to use those functions with a subscription. Shit, the survey asked how much you were interested in being able to order parts and oil directly from your bike instead of a shop/website. 

They asked about ordering parts/oil on almost EVERY question.  I walked through the survey but did not submit (don't own a newer bike).

There is almost zero situation where I care to have a phone on by bars aside from maybe where I'm out in the woods.  I ride to get away from that sort of thing.

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Side panels and front plates the size of billboards.

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Spoonguy wrote:
I have been riding for roughly fifty years. When we were younger, we thought riding would eventually be like ski resorts or golf courses. People come...

I have been riding for roughly fifty years. When we were younger, we thought riding would eventually be like ski resorts or golf courses. People come in rent bikes and ride the woods or courses for a fee or annual pass. We thought bikes would continue to get lighter, more user friendly, and easier to maintain. A direction that would be more inclusive to more people riding. It didn't work out that way, the way bikes are now. High horsepower, disc brakes, heavy weight, aggressive tires, complex builds, has resulted in bikes that are more damaging to tracks and trails and are more difficult for the new riders to be introduced to.

Beginner/entry level motorcycles peaked with the XR200/250

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4/12/2024 12:27pm

That survey was slower than a vet rider on a RMZ. 

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Spoonguy wrote:
I have been riding for roughly fifty years. When we were younger, we thought riding would eventually be like ski resorts or golf courses. People come...

I have been riding for roughly fifty years. When we were younger, we thought riding would eventually be like ski resorts or golf courses. People come in rent bikes and ride the woods or courses for a fee or annual pass. We thought bikes would continue to get lighter, more user friendly, and easier to maintain. A direction that would be more inclusive to more people riding. It didn't work out that way, the way bikes are now. High horsepower, disc brakes, heavy weight, aggressive tires, complex builds, has resulted in bikes that are more damaging to tracks and trails and are more difficult for the new riders to be introduced to.

kNewc wrote:
I believe Electric bikes resolve the user friendly/easier to maintain aspect but the battery technology just isn't quite there yet for a lot of dudes. If...

I believe Electric bikes resolve the user friendly/easier to maintain aspect but the battery technology just isn't quite there yet for a lot of dudes. If you took the survey it was very much hinting that they want to put a cell phone on the bike. How else are you going to get the data the survey asks about (heart rate, lap analytics, fuel consumption, coolant temp, gps, etc..). I can only assume they want to integrate your phone in the handlebar and only allow you to use those functions with a subscription. Shit, the survey asked how much you were interested in being able to order parts and oil directly from your bike instead of a shop/website. 

They asked about ordering parts/oil on almost EVERY question.  I walked through the survey but did not submit (don't own a newer bike). There is almost...

They asked about ordering parts/oil on almost EVERY question.  I walked through the survey but did not submit (don't own a newer bike).

There is almost zero situation where I care to have a phone on by bars aside from maybe where I'm out in the woods.  I ride to get away from that sort of thing.

I'm with you. Wish there had been an option for do not want or not interested in having phone connectivity.

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They list Kayo, Trailmaster and Volcon but not Stark?

Quick survey on that specifically:

A. Ill informed

B. Passive aggressive

C. Burying their head in the sand

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4/12/2024 5:37pm
Richy wrote:
They list Kayo, Trailmaster and Volcon but not Stark? Quick survey on that specifically: A. Ill informed B. Passive aggressive C. Burying their head in the...

They list Kayo, Trailmaster and Volcon but not Stark?

Quick survey on that specifically:

A. Ill informed

B. Passive aggressive

C. Burying their head in the sand

Sounds like PIERER Mobility!

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Spoonguy wrote:
I have been riding for roughly fifty years. When we were younger, we thought riding would eventually be like ski resorts or golf courses. People come...

I have been riding for roughly fifty years. When we were younger, we thought riding would eventually be like ski resorts or golf courses. People come in rent bikes and ride the woods or courses for a fee or annual pass. We thought bikes would continue to get lighter, more user friendly, and easier to maintain. A direction that would be more inclusive to more people riding. It didn't work out that way, the way bikes are now. High horsepower, disc brakes, heavy weight, aggressive tires, complex builds, has resulted in bikes that are more damaging to tracks and trails and are more difficult for the new riders to be introduced to.

PigLover wrote:

Beginner/entry level motorcycles peaked with the XR200/250

Those scooters have nothing to do with what we envisioned the direction scooters would go.

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The very questions showed how detatched the industry is from consumers. The questions were the antithesis of what should be asked. We ride to get away from half that shit, not to embrace it.The movers and shakers of this sport have to engage people who never thought of this sport as a way to spend time, not those already engaged. Get those not riding to at least understand those that do.

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4/13/2024 7:15am

Electronics are cheaper to add than better suspension or overall durability..

 

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My ethnicity= other/cat

Male and female were the only genders to choose from. What about cats, pans, skateboards, toilet seats, and kick starters? 

Asked a lot about lit pro like data. 

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4/13/2024 1:16pm

The questions were set-up to lead you into a specific set of choices. They’re attempting to get us to choose between their focused categories of design options. 

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tmphotoart wrote:
  2025 CZ Models out coming soon . . .

 

2025 CZ Models out coming soon . . .

Make that thing for $3999 and I’ll take 5. 💪🏼

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4/15/2024 10:13pm

I chose KLX 140 which is the only bike we own currently and it let me complete the survey.... hmm. 

I am surprised that an OEM is looking for this information and not just a some aftermarket company with investor moneys. 

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