Is the Stark the ultimate freeride / freestyle bike?

No. I'd call it the beginning of the end of our beloved sport called Motocross. Moto as in an engine, clutch, gears, etc.

Man, if you want more tracks to reopen, then electric is going to save those tracks. Its the future of the sport man, and in a few years, you will have to start accepting that.

Josh hill was doing insane stuff on his alta , before it got stolen? (i cant remember)

So yea, it seems like a really cool bike if you have places to go roam around with limited time or don't want extra attention.

Setting one up almost more dual sport / super moto would be so fun I bet.

I will quit riding before I'd ride an electric bike. 4 strokes were bad enough, an electric bike that doesn't have a clutch or gears? No thanks. Funny your username is dog_lover_136 I'm also a huge dog lover and I'd rather watch dogs run agility courses or dock jumping, over a whining battery bike with the only noise being the suspension bottoming and the chain slapping off the swing arm. I'm good on that RIP Supercross. It will be gone in 10 years.

Motor as in electric Motor .  It even makes more sense to be called motocross when there are motors being used.  Gas engines , electric motors, really whatever works best for whoever is riding it, that's great. 

But like I've said many times. The electric powered MX bikes seem to open up more opportunities for riding than they close.

No sound so nobody knows your riding.

No emissions so indoor tracks would be much easier to be a thing in colder areas.

Tracks in neighborhoods.

Tracks not having to deal with sound levels.

VS 

Gas bikes have the range and refuel times going for them

Lighter weight as of now.                                                                                                                                                                     

 But they could make an ultralight version of the Varg for FMX since it would only need to run for a few minutes at a time.

Good points. But I stand by what I said. Can you imagine watching a race in a stadium with absolute silence other than the whining of an electric motor and Weege pumping up the crowd? This is not a good thing. Maybe the put a baseball card in their spokes? Maybe a Bluetooth speaker pumping out 4 stroke noise? I'm just glad I lived through the heyday of the sport. 

In a stadium…I’d honestly prefer the quiet bikes…the noise at supercross is almost to the point of  making me not want to go.  I almost can’t stand it.
 

Motocross though?  It needs the sound!

The E 50 class at the local track is a snooze fest because the lack of noise, the riders actually look slower without the noise of a motor. Like many have said above I do not see stadiums selling out for electric bikes, part of the experience, especially for newbies is the excitement of bikes revved up on the start or panic revving in the air. And people saying it will save local track; no itll likely kill local tracks if electric gets pushed by government if prices continue to rise. Another option for riders cool, but im not eager to see them take over as the sport we all love will be drastically different and not for better. 

No. I took a newbie to a sx. They said worst part was, engine noise, and fumes.

Isn't there a electric bike sub-forum for this drivel?

Drama queen! 

Respectfully disagree on the Supercross sound levels.

Deafen me and assault my nose with race gas, please. I'm serious.

Maybe I just lack subtlety, but I don't understand how it's a bad thing. I appreciate this opinion is probably a minority among us, and definitely a minority for any casual fans.

Just wondering, now bikes are so damn fast, and have that widespread four stroke torque, why can't they silence them a little more effectively even if it's giving up a tiny amount of poke? Seems noise is an issue for fans and local tracks alike.

That's cool everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I'm done with the sport once electric bikes take over. Thank God for the NFL, but if it turned to flag football I'd be done with it too though. 

Amen brother. 

Love it or hate it, it will probably be the future of professional racing. There are kids now who like their electric bike more than their gas bikes and there are kids coming up now that will never ride a gas bike, much like the 2 stroke to 4 stroke switch..

will I miss that sound of thunder when the gate drops? Absolutely.. but I watch 90% of races on tv so it really won’t make a difference.

Racing is Racing.. to those that say they won’t follow anymore because of the sound of a bike, you aren’t a true fan of Racing…

Just curious, do NFL players run around making dirt bike noises? If they don't, how can you stand to watch it?

Really? Lol dork. 

When the next generation finds eMX bikes the norm then it won’t matter any what the current and old generation wants or likes. 
 

I honestly don’t get how the ICE crowds act like the fun of riding is the noise of the motor. 
Go ride a MTB downhill and tell me you miss the engine noise. 
or go and Rev your chain saw. 
 

Why would you quit riding or stop following the sport because you don’t have ICE noises. Seriously, how is the noise the fun part?

I love riding dirt bikes regardless of powerplant. If I can get the same power out of a bike powered by a hamster wheel, my home would become very rodent friendly.

For me living in the suburbs it would be sick to have a Stark or Alta for messing around town poaching lowkey riding areas. Random weeknights after work or dinner just pop out for an hour for some small trail paths or dirt jump spots. Even construction sites haha. They're building a brand new subdivision in town and I always think about how badly I wanna rip around all the dirt they're piling up and moving. I wouldn't replace my actual gas MX bikes with it on track days. But as an extra fun play toy, hell yea. Hopefully it's not always going to be $14k or whatever though lol

Other than the Star of the race, I think less noise will be better. I still would rather listen to the start of an all 2 stroke race than 4 strokes.  Many riders wear earplugs and find helmets that are as quiet  as possible.  For Freestyle MX like this thread is about, it might even make for some next level tricks.  I've always put up with the sound  , not rode because of it. I had been really into MTB's before racing MX. And being out in the woods and cruising in near silence was a fun part of riding.   

I've had more issues with people crossing  in front of me not knowing I was there on a dirtbike than on a MTB. Even in MTB races with 100's of riders of different abilities all on the course at one time. Maybe while you have a mix of Emx and ICE bikes together it might be a bit sketchy. But there are riders who lug their bikes and sneak up on people already even with the loud 4 strokes.

While the lack of sound may not save every track, it should help some, and if you have a private track with all EMX bikes on it, people may never know there is a track in the area to complain about.  Of course some places will have people who will find other reasons to shut tracks down.  Noise has been the most difficult to control  of the reasons that people complain about as far as MX tracks go.   dust is much easier to control, traffic, runoff, erosion , etc all much easier to control than noise is. A local track was making people run an exhaust insert called a DB Dog. Faster guys  were overheating bikes, blowing mufflers apparat and having the inserts blow out taking parts of the silencer/muffler with it. If not for the noise , that track would have very little resistance by locals.       

Great, they can stay home next time lol.

"thing I dont like? Better change it til I do!" nah lol

He's never ridden a perfectly jetted two stroke.

All of the reasons to go to electric make sense,  less noise equals more riding area availability etc. I'll probably get one too at some point. But, missing the sound of our current bikes is going to be hard to get used to. I raced off road1/8 nitro buggy for years, then the electric 1/8 scale buggy evolution began, they are fast, reliable and quiet, I hated it. One of the guys I raced with said, "watching these electric buggies race is like watching a Metallica concert with the mute turned on", good analogy I thought. It will be the same when all MX/SX races are electric. That said, it's unavoidable, I won't stop racing/riding because of it. 

Tracks in neighborhoods will never happen considering most people would freak if they had to listen to a bulldozer prepping the track at 6am, not to mention dust/traffic etc

I personally think that a perfectly jetted 2 stroke is the best sound for a dirtbike.  My 01 CR250 with PC shorty sounded so awesome . I miss those sounds.  4 strokes have never really done it for me. My SXS has a high revving 3 cylinder that sounds 2 stroke like at some rpms. And the scream of an F1 is the only 4 stroke sound that I don't mind. 

I've watched races on TV without any sound or the sound hardly on. And I found myself watching closer and seeing more. just as exciting to watch for me. But I also find downhill MTB racing exciting too. And they run by themselves  and the bikes make lots of clanky noises. You hear lots of cow bells and air horns. 

As a racer , one of the coolest moments I've had was when I was racing an arenacross, and could hear the crowd roaring over the sound of my bike. I had crashed , so that part sucks and it would have been much better if I had made a cool pass or done something cool. After a big crash I sprung back up and fired my CR250 back to life and it kickstarted the crowd . I couldn't tell if my bike was running or not.It was such a wild feeling to have the connection with the crowd. If SX is all electric ,think of how wild it would feel as a racer hearing the crowd so loudly cheering for you!  

Just wait til you see (not hear) the electric bulldozer I'm developing!

I'm currently accepting $100.00 down-payments and will be offering a wonderful payment plan: 157 Easy monthly payments followed by 1 Really Hard payment. 

Really? 
Let’s see. 77 and 79 yz80s, 88 yz250, 93 and 99 Cr250s, 2003 crf450 and years and years of Kawi stand up jet skis. 
 

But I have no clue on a perfectly jetted 2 strokes because I like eMX bikes. Got it. Clown show!!!

I'm talking about private tracks .  Not a  race track or public practice track.   I'm talking about  somebody having 5 acres of land and building a track for themselves and a couple friends to ride on.  There are a few private tracks around me. One on 35 acres  , and some on   smaller lots. The guy with 35 acres has had   problems with noise issues. Even with his track being 1500 feet back into the woods. I'm talking about neighborhoods like that. Not on 1/2 acre  in subdivisions.  Somebody with an acre or 2 behind their house could make a fun track to play on and get out and ride after work easier than loading up and driving. 

Old warehouses, Mill buildings etc. could be turned into indoor trail riding parks like that old mine that was turned into an indoor MTB/bike park. Right now to do it would involve lots of ventilation to the level that it would cost much much more and  might not even be possible in some cases. After removing the time and cost to vent exhaust while trying to  heat /cool the place it might just be able to make sense money wise with the right deal  on a property.  It would be much less expensive forsure.    

 I know that some aspects of the sport would change with an all electric switch. And we would or will lose some of the parts of the sport that people enjoy. But if the sport goes totally electric it will only be because the bikes can do more and what they can do , makes up for what they can not do.     

I thought I read somewhere or watched an interview with someone talking about the in-flight characteristics of the electric bikes not being all that suitable for modern-day freestyle (backflips and such). The fact there's no rotational mass from the motor and the weight distribution of the battery makes the in-flight characteristics very different from a ICE bike. 

That aside, the Average Joe, and motocross in general, should benefit from the lack of engine noise for many years to come. Noise has always been a major issue with motocross, especially tracks within the general vicinity of housing. Understandably so... unless you're actually riding or watching a race, the sound emanating from modern four-strokes is downright annoying. I lived briefly out in the country near a private track and you could hear the sound of motos from 2 miles away.