Stark Orders and Payments

Last2Stroke 10/26/2023 2:00am
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ksithumper wrote:
...and I STILL haven't seen a ride review that is anything other than overwhelmingly positive.  A pal has just had his delivery brought forward from Dec...

...and I STILL haven't seen a ride review that is anything other than overwhelmingly positive. 

A pal has just had his delivery brought forward from Dec to Nov - they are definitely cranking up production. An outstanding achievement.  

ksithumper wrote:
Well it arrived ahead of promise, yesterday. First real one I have seen in the flesh . It really is beautifully designed and manufactured.  Unboxing, build...

Well it arrived ahead of promise, yesterday.

First real one I have seen in the flesh . It really is beautifully designed and manufactured. 

Unboxing, build up, charging and software was totally straightforward. 3 hours after we started, it was out on a flat track for a play.

No glitches, no software errors. Just top fun and got hugely positive reactions from everyone who saw it.

 

VIN?

justinbogleswhipfoot 10/26/2023 3:32am
10/26/2023 3:32am
MxAddic wrote:
Sure pal, your a real funny guy. No skin off my balls if the Vtards are non believers. Too bad the Stark customers waiting on pre-orders...

Sure pal, your a real funny guy. No skin off my balls if the Vtards are non believers. Too bad the Stark customers waiting on pre-orders are losing skin off theirs.

Project 2501 wrote:
this vitard has spent about 20 hours riding his pre order. It's pretty fucking great. And I was prepared to talk a ton of shit about...

this vitard has spent about 20 hours riding his pre order. It's pretty fucking great. And I was prepared to talk a ton of shit about it if I didnt' like it. There are alot of folks in the stark groups riding their pre orders now. Thats actually why I don't click this thread daily anymore. 

(I still love two strokes)

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Good for you Bro  Too bad there is 17K customers that don't feel the same.

Where are these upset/waiting customers you speak of? I couldn’t be more excited to receive my bike.

That gear isn’t for me but as long as you like it, that’s all that matters. I’d recommend adopting a similar attitude towards Stark customers. 

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MxAddic 10/26/2023 4:58am
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Project 2501 wrote:
this vitard has spent about 20 hours riding his pre order. It's pretty fucking great. And I was prepared to talk a ton of shit about...

this vitard has spent about 20 hours riding his pre order. It's pretty fucking great. And I was prepared to talk a ton of shit about it if I didnt' like it. There are alot of folks in the stark groups riding their pre orders now. Thats actually why I don't click this thread daily anymore. 

(I still love two strokes)

MxAddic wrote:

Good for you Bro  Too bad there is 17K customers that don't feel the same.

justinbogleswhipfoot wrote:
Where are these upset/waiting customers you speak of? I couldn’t be more excited to receive my bike. That gear isn’t for me but as long as...

Where are these upset/waiting customers you speak of? I couldn’t be more excited to receive my bike.

That gear isn’t for me but as long as you like it, that’s all that matters. I’d recommend adopting a similar attitude towards Stark customers. 

TBC I don’t have a problem with the bike or owners for buying them. Like you said not my cup of tea. You don’t see me insulting folks for their choice but I get insulted for mine. TBH I expect no less from vitards for not agreeing with them. It’s par for the course around here. To deny reality for what is going on with the production and distro of these is idiotic. I am sure you could imagine what would have happened weeks ago if I tried to push my experience.

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fourfourone 10/26/2023 5:17am
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MxAddic wrote:

Good for you Bro  Too bad there is 17K customers that don't feel the same.

justinbogleswhipfoot wrote:
Where are these upset/waiting customers you speak of? I couldn’t be more excited to receive my bike. That gear isn’t for me but as long as...

Where are these upset/waiting customers you speak of? I couldn’t be more excited to receive my bike.

That gear isn’t for me but as long as you like it, that’s all that matters. I’d recommend adopting a similar attitude towards Stark customers. 

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TBC I don’t have a problem with the bike or owners for buying them. Like you said not my cup of tea. You don’t see me...

TBC I don’t have a problem with the bike or owners for buying them. Like you said not my cup of tea. You don’t see me insulting folks for their choice but I get insulted for mine. TBH I expect no less from vitards for not agreeing with them. It’s par for the course around here. To deny reality for what is going on with the production and distro of these is idiotic. I am sure you could imagine what would have happened weeks ago if I tried to push my experience.

#delusional 

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MxAddic 10/26/2023 5:19am
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The best part, taking his story at face value, is that he still hasn’t figured out that the dealer he believes gave him a deal on...

The best part, taking his story at face value, is that he still hasn’t figured out that the dealer he believes gave him a deal on gear just offloaded an ugly colorway from last year on him that they couldn’t convince anyone else to buy at retail.Laughing  I’m not surprised at all this dealer convinced him they could get him a bike next month, once he fell for that it was fair game to convince him of anything.  The lack of self awareness from someone who just got played like a fiddle is pretty amusing, factor in the irony of everything he’s said in various Stark threads and it’s elevated to pure internet gold.  

The best part is you are wrong about everything you just said. Everything I said is 100% true. FXR sets the price, not the dealer. The gear is 2 YO which he fully disclosed. He had every color way in stock I guess because FXR gear sucks so bad. I didn’t  get played for anything as you suggest as we were done talking bikes before I even noticed he had gear. As far as I know this is the only Stark thread I have ever posted. Your batting .000 and elevated things to pure internet shit. 😂 GJ for a little bitch.

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fourfourone 10/26/2023 5:42am
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JM485 wrote:
The best part, taking his story at face value, is that he still hasn’t figured out that the dealer he believes gave him a deal on...

The best part, taking his story at face value, is that he still hasn’t figured out that the dealer he believes gave him a deal on gear just offloaded an ugly colorway from last year on him that they couldn’t convince anyone else to buy at retail.Laughing  I’m not surprised at all this dealer convinced him they could get him a bike next month, once he fell for that it was fair game to convince him of anything.  The lack of self awareness from someone who just got played like a fiddle is pretty amusing, factor in the irony of everything he’s said in various Stark threads and it’s elevated to pure internet gold.  

MxAddic wrote:
The best part is you are wrong about everything you just said. Everything I said is 100% true. FXR sets the price, not the dealer. The...

The best part is you are wrong about everything you just said. Everything I said is 100% true. FXR sets the price, not the dealer. The gear is 2 YO which he fully disclosed. He had every color way in stock I guess because FXR gear sucks so bad. I didn’t  get played for anything as you suggest as we were done talking bikes before I even noticed he had gear. As far as I know this is the only Stark thread I have ever posted. Your batting .000 and elevated things to pure internet shit. 😂 GJ for a little bitch.

Dude.. just go away... pleaseeee

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MxAddic 10/26/2023 6:28am
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fourfourone wrote:

Dude.. just go away... pleaseeee

So you can push your narcissistic BS and not be challenged?

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fourfourone wrote:

Dude.. just go away... pleaseeee

MxAddic wrote:

So you can push your narcissistic BS and not be challenged?

What are you even arguing about at this point?

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JM485 10/26/2023 8:02am
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fourfourone wrote:

Dude.. just go away... pleaseeee

MxAddic wrote:

So you can push your narcissistic BS and not be challenged?

early wrote:

What are you even arguing about at this point?

Nothing, but it's fun to watch him think he's playing an enlightened game of 3D chess while we all just see a checker board.

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JM485 wrote:

Nothing, but it's fun to watch him think he's playing an enlightened game of 3D chess while we all just see a checker board.

Checkers is being too generous, it's more like rochambeau and he only throws rocks.

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skidsteer16 10/26/2023 10:59am
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The real Sasquatch wrote:
That sucks about the missing phone. If You did not already, I would read through the manual and the rest of the setup process  ,so You...

That sucks about the missing phone. If You did not already, I would read through the manual and the rest of the setup process  ,so You can check to make sure there is not anything else missing or damaged. Just to take an inventory of the items that come in the box.    

Have You tried calling any local Varg dealers to see if there is anything that they could do?  It couldn't hurt to try. 

I wonder if the shipping Co. was worried you would reject the delivery since the crate was damaged and they did not want to drive it out to you to have You reject it?  Hope that everything else is all there and Stark gets You riding soon. 

skidsteer16 wrote:
Yeah, everything else seems to be there although I haven't broken it down yet, building it when I get home from work today.  I did call...

Yeah, everything else seems to be there although I haven't broken it down yet, building it when I get home from work today.  I did call the local dealer and they have no idea when they'll get any parts for them, they just have their demo bikes for now.

First world problems here...  I'm not gonna lose sleep over it, it's just unfortunate.   I'm sure when I'm putting this smokin hot bike together later and marveling over the engineering and quality I won't be thinking much about the phone/display. 

The real Sasquatch wrote:
It still is annoying to have that happen.  I guess it will be good to find out how responsive Stark is for regular customers who have...

It still is annoying to have that happen.  I guess it will be good to find out how responsive Stark is for regular customers who have a bike in their hands. So far it seems like any issues get resolved quickly. But as more bikes are out in the wild, I imagine that might be harder to do. Please post back with your experience.   

And for the Varg deniers ,I'm   not saying that I expect Vargs to all have  issues. Just never know what can happen outside of Starks control. Or in life in general. Stuff like this damaged packing and missing item.   

So I gotta laugh at myself on this one...   I ended up finding the Stark phone when I went to build it Sunday night in the handlebar box... which is where it's supposed from what I learned (wasn't clear in the manual).  I don't know why but I was going off B. Haskell's unboxing video and seeing the box on the pallet inside the stand... mine was entirely missing that. 

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Anyway, not my finest moment, but it was a fun discovery and made the build that much better. Such a sweet machine. 

Absolutely jones'n to go ride but with 30 degress and snow in the forecast this weekend, the maiden voyage is gonna have to wait until next week.  

Stark's customer service had gotten back to me by Monday morning saying where I should look for the phone and if it's not there they would ship one right away. 

For those interested I put my deposit down December 14, 2021.  Bike delivered 10.20.23.  VIN # is around 875. 

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Beagle 10/26/2023 11:12am
10/26/2023 11:12am Edited Date/Time 10/26/2023 11:13am

Great news all around !

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mikelawlor 10/26/2023 3:54pm
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IMG 0559
not posting to bash stark. Just so the guys who have one in here are aware. Don’t know any back story on this. Just came across it on IG. It looks the the dog bones only attach on one side?  Definitely a weird design. 

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Dirty Points 10/26/2023 4:02pm
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mikelawlor wrote:
not posting to bash stark. Just so the guys who have one in here are aware. Don’t know any back story on this. Just came across...

IMG 0559
not posting to bash stark. Just so the guys who have one in here are aware. Don’t know any back story on this. Just came across it on IG. It looks the the dog bones only attach on one side?  Definitely a weird design. 

Both sides are broken off of the case in that picture. the angle is odd, but the left side is broken through the bolt hole on the mount

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The real Sasquatch 10/26/2023 4:21pm
10/26/2023 4:21pm

Ouch. Hope the rider is OK.  Not a great look  , I wonder what happened that caused it?  Any more info on how it happened? 

I'm sure that MXaddic will know exactly what  happened................... 

But really I wonder what the details of the bike and everything are. 

 

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Andrew314 10/26/2023 5:08pm
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mikelawlor wrote:
not posting to bash stark. Just so the guys who have one in here are aware. Don’t know any back story on this. Just came across...

IMG 0559
not posting to bash stark. Just so the guys who have one in here are aware. Don’t know any back story on this. Just came across it on IG. It looks the the dog bones only attach on one side?  Definitely a weird design. 

Hahahaha

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JM485 10/26/2023 5:26pm
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Context regarding what happened sure would be helpful. . .

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vdrsnk04 10/26/2023 6:08pm
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JM485 wrote:

Context regarding what happened sure would be helpful. . .

This. Just sharing a pic of a broken frame with no backstory is like what the media does.let’s be better than that.
 

I mean all other brands have had the same things happen to their frames multiple times now.

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Last2Stroke 10/26/2023 9:01pm
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FGR01 wrote:

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It's not a sand casting, from the surface finish it looks like a die casting.

If the left side let go first, that would explain the fracture on the right, but I'm surprised the lower section is hollow.

Dirty Points 10/26/2023 9:08pm
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Last2Stroke wrote:
It's not a sand casting, from the surface finish it looks like a die casting. If the left side let go first, that would explain the...

It's not a sand casting, from the surface finish it looks like a die casting.

If the left side let go first, that would explain the fracture on the right, but I'm surprised the lower section is hollow.

Lower section is definitely solid. They are machining directly on it there.

The break on the right side is much higher which probably indicates a significant misalignment or lack of properly applied horizontal toruque.

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Last2Stroke 10/26/2023 9:14pm
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FGR01 wrote:

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Last2Stroke wrote:
It's not a sand casting, from the surface finish it looks like a die casting. If the left side let go first, that would explain the...

It's not a sand casting, from the surface finish it looks like a die casting.

If the left side let go first, that would explain the fracture on the right, but I'm surprised the lower section is hollow.

Dirty Points wrote:
Lower section is definitely solid. They are machining directly on it there. The break on the right side is much higher which probably indicates a significant...

Lower section is definitely solid. They are machining directly on it there.

The break on the right side is much higher which probably indicates a significant misalignment or lack of properly applied horizontal toruque.

The fracture on the left side is through the bolt hole...

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The fracture on the right side is forward of the bolt hole in the housing...

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I'd guess the left side fractured first.

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Andrew314 10/26/2023 10:14pm
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JM485 wrote:

Context regarding what happened sure would be helpful. . .

Context is…. All these “useful idiots” buying into the global communist bullshit, is nothing but smoke and mirrors. They think they’re saving the planet. In reality they will be the first ones lined up against the wall and shot, when they are not useful anymore. The world will always run on oil. The real goal of all this green crap is population control and murdering billions of people. These things are just like unwrapping your little electric rc car from Santa and it being broken 2 days later. Except it cost 15 gs. 

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The real Sasquatch wrote:
Ouch. Hope the rider is OK.  Not a great look  , I wonder what happened that caused it?  Any more info on how it happened?  I'm...

Ouch. Hope the rider is OK.  Not a great look  , I wonder what happened that caused it?  Any more info on how it happened? 

I'm sure that MXaddic will know exactly what  happened................... 

But really I wonder what the details of the bike and everything are. 

 

Can't wait to read Beagle's official explanation.

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Last2Stroke wrote:
It's not a sand casting, from the surface finish it looks like a die casting. If the left side let go first, that would explain the...

It's not a sand casting, from the surface finish it looks like a die casting.

If the left side let go first, that would explain the fracture on the right, but I'm surprised the lower section is hollow.

More like a dead casting.

Laughing

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truck 10/26/2023 11:42pm
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I am sitting at work literally laughing out loud catching up on the last few pages of this. Appreciate all of you for the free entertainment!! Absolutely love that we've added a catastrophic failure to the mix this early on. Is it a total fluke just like any other bike could have, or is a failure such as this so early on with so few bikes out there a canary in the lithium mine?  Impossible to know at this point, but please pick a side and debate it with the utmost conviction!!! 

Seriously though, to the guy with the new bike and snow in the forecast, has anyone had these out in the cold yet? Curious if it has much impact on battery life? 

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