Lawrences vs Mirtl Lawsuit Details Emerge

2/1/2025 1:14pm
aees wrote:
I was wondering about that as well. This might not be as clear cut, even though it's shady shit in there. If Mirtl was part owner and/or...

I was wondering about that as well. This might not be as clear cut, even though it's shady shit in there. 

If Mirtl was part owner and/or authorized signatory in a separate company where these transactions took place it will be messy. Specially if no shareholder or specific agreement was established. 

Personal loans from a company is typically forbidden in a lot of jurisdictions, American llc it is allowed with some ifs and buts. It is still not a good look to pay those private expenses, even if he would have owned 51%, it's a very bad look. 

Maybe that is what Mirtl is referring to, the accounts was not under Wasserman supervision or management so that would be a surprise and in his eyes wrongful termination. That's also why you won't see a lawsuit from Wasserman side. 

Tyler D wrote:
What's your take on the $240k from Alpinestars? That gets a little into his core duties. I still think Lawrence's end up joining WMG to the...

What's your take on the $240k from Alpinestars? That gets a little into his core duties. I still think Lawrence's end up joining WMG to the suit. 

aees wrote:
It looks like all transactions was from the same account, the LLC. If that is outside Wasserman it will be very interesting to see how they...

It looks like all transactions was from the same account, the LLC. If that is outside Wasserman it will be very interesting to see how they motivated the termination of his employment from a legal standpoint?

 

It's probably because he caused Wasserman to lose out on astars sponsorship money (and their cut) because the donut account (even if they had nothing to do with it) was dry and couldn't pay the merch bill.

 

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2/1/2025 1:31pm

Is that similar to RICO? 

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In very simple terms yes

Uhhhhhhh . . . no. 

RICO a subset of conspiracy where one party as a co-conspirator is liable (civil) or guilty (criminal) for actively facilitating the primary actor's wrongful conduct as part of a shared plan.  

Vicarious liability is when your drunk employee runs over someone while on the job.

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2/1/2025 1:56pm
aees wrote:
It looks like all transactions was from the same account, the LLC. If that is outside Wasserman it will be very interesting to see how they...

It looks like all transactions was from the same account, the LLC. If that is outside Wasserman it will be very interesting to see how they motivated the termination of his employment from a legal standpoint?

 

Companies have a lot of latitude to fire people for literally any reason they want, except some legally protected statuses.  As an example, I just looked at one of my agreements.  I can be fired for 'cause'.  'cause' includes dishonesty or fraud with respect to the company or any affiliate of the company, or conviction or confession in court of a felony or a crime of moral turpitude.

 

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2/1/2025 1:57pm Edited Date/Time 2/1/2025 2:04pm
robkinuk wrote:

Sounds like Lucas's personal chocolate Dougnut is going to take a bashing if he loses this case and ends up doing jail time?😜

Salads will be getting tossed, cheeks will be getting busted...

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2/1/2025 2:00pm Edited Date/Time 2/1/2025 2:06pm

Vicarious liability is when your drunk employee runs over someone while on the job.

Sounds applicable. Or should I say apple cable to keep up the momentum of the old thread. 

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2/1/2025 2:23pm

I love how so many of us joked about Cooksey having him on and good grief he's actually got the full exclusive hour plus special

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2/1/2025 2:51pm
robkinuk wrote:

Sounds like Lucas's personal chocolate Dougnut is going to take a bashing if he loses this case and ends up doing jail time?😜

Worst case scenario he’ll go to a country club called camp fed for a year or 2. 

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2/1/2025 2:55pm
Federal prison is like a country club . It’s full of investors that ripped people off.Troy aikman & other nfl 90,s stars had millions stolen...

Federal prison is like a country club . It’s full of investors that ripped people off.Troy aikman & other nfl 90,s stars had millions stolen . He got 18 months & laughed all the way to the bank. The players never got a nickel.   I,m out about the same amount of money in wages .  But iL. States truck drivers hv no rights to get paid. There paid off by Eastern European organized crime & the government, state police r paid off , judges r paid and bought ,  etc, etc.  Jett ,s a multi millionaire so he can hire a attorney for big money .  I,m bringing IL. Into Tribal court 100 bucks the Indians hv hundreds of millions from the casinos.  Chicago is a bankrupt city.  Will be pushing for Chicago to display the land deeds that where forged .  Dekalb iL. Lost a 175 yr court battle when they showed forged land deeds last yr.  There’s hundreds of millions of dollars laundered threw Chicago from Eastern Europe Russia ,Serbia ,Lithuania,etc . The government knows this because they clip a piece of the money along with other corrupt people in Chicago.  Good that the family is busting the guy. But don’t expect to get any money back . Or expect to be in front of 5 million broke truckers fighting to get there money. And justice haha that’s funny because there is none in America .  

Pro never disappoints man. Right on queue. 

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2/1/2025 3:11pm

So the moto "media" can't summon a single fact on any story, and now we have this,  they've consistently lined up a long list of facts.

It feels like when the news found WMDs lol. Things that make you go hmmmm.

It doesn't sound good,  I don't condone what he accused of, i find it sad that so many seem to be enjoying the salacious details of someone's downfall. 

Jesus once said, let he is without sin cast the first stone.  So many here throwing rocks... hope you are proud up there in the moral high ground. 

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2/1/2025 3:16pm
Came here to see Pro’s response and was not disappointed. THESE DAMN TRUCKS MAN! IF ONLY THEY DELIVERED THOSE DONUTS ON TIME NONE OF THIS WOULD HAVE...

Came here to see Pro’s response and was not disappointed. 

THESE DAMN TRUCKS MAN! IF ONLY THEY DELIVERED THOSE DONUTS ON TIME NONE OF THIS WOULD HAVE HAPPENED!!! 😔

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I love skimming his posts to see the journey he takes us on from start to finish. Troy Aikman, Lithuanian money laundering, and an army of...

I love skimming his posts to see the journey he takes us on from start to finish. Troy Aikman, Lithuanian money laundering, and an army of truckers on poverty wages.

Or Tarah Geiger’s 2004 CR125 carb mods

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2/1/2025 3:18pm

So it was a business account used to fund the business that Mirts was responsible for to keep balanced.  
As he said if they had a problem with it why didn’t they tell him no more doing that and fix the balance ? 
 

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2/1/2025 4:03pm Edited Date/Time 2/1/2025 4:05pm

He won’t go to jail  for this, he did everything in plain site, that’s how they know where the money went.


The dispute will be in IF he was allowed to use the money the way he did. If he loses he will have to pay the money back and if awarded this part also, pay back the Lawrence’s legal fees.

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2/1/2025 4:12pm
Kawboy14! wrote:
He won’t go to jail  for this, he did everything in plain site, that’s how they know where the money went.The dispute will be in IF...

He won’t go to jail  for this, he did everything in plain site, that’s how they know where the money went.


The dispute will be in IF he was allowed to use the money the way he did. If he loses he will have to pay the money back and if awarded this part also, pay back the Lawrence’s legal fees.

If he had the money to pay them back, he wouldn’t have taken their $.  The Lawrence’s may win the lawsuit and still get pennies on the dollar at best out of Mirtl.

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2/1/2025 4:53pm
Kawboy14! wrote:
He won’t go to jail  for this, he did everything in plain site, that’s how they know where the money went.The dispute will be in IF...

He won’t go to jail  for this, he did everything in plain site, that’s how they know where the money went.


The dispute will be in IF he was allowed to use the money the way he did. If he loses he will have to pay the money back and if awarded this part also, pay back the Lawrence’s legal fees.

ACBraap wrote:
If he had the money to pay them back, he wouldn’t have taken their $.  The Lawrence’s may win the lawsuit and still get pennies on...

If he had the money to pay them back, he wouldn’t have taken their $.  The Lawrence’s may win the lawsuit and still get pennies on the dollar at best out of Mirtl.

Rich people steal money a lot!

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2/1/2025 4:56pm
AssangeMX wrote:
So the moto "media" can't summon a single fact on any story, and now we have this,  they've consistently lined up a long list of facts.It...

So the moto "media" can't summon a single fact on any story, and now we have this,  they've consistently lined up a long list of facts.

It feels like when the news found WMDs lol. Things that make you go hmmmm.

It doesn't sound good,  I don't condone what he accused of, i find it sad that so many seem to be enjoying the salacious details of someone's downfall. 

Jesus once said, let he is without sin cast the first stone.  So many here throwing rocks... hope you are proud up there in the moral high ground. 

we're not condeming mirtl to death. the bible doesn't prohibit judgement. there's a whole lot of judgements in matthew 23 and the bible calls men in fellowship to hold their brothers accountable. 

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2023&version=NIV

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2/1/2025 4:57pm
AssangeMX wrote:
So the moto "media" can't summon a single fact on any story, and now we have this,  they've consistently lined up a long list of facts.It...

So the moto "media" can't summon a single fact on any story, and now we have this,  they've consistently lined up a long list of facts.

It feels like when the news found WMDs lol. Things that make you go hmmmm.

It doesn't sound good,  I don't condone what he accused of, i find it sad that so many seem to be enjoying the salacious details of someone's downfall. 

Jesus once said, let he is without sin cast the first stone.  So many here throwing rocks... hope you are proud up there in the moral high ground. 

Ironic that Jesus said that given that religious folk are the most judgmental people on this planet. 

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2/1/2025 5:01pm
AssangeMX wrote:
So the moto "media" can't summon a single fact on any story, and now we have this,  they've consistently lined up a long list of facts.It...

So the moto "media" can't summon a single fact on any story, and now we have this,  they've consistently lined up a long list of facts.

It feels like when the news found WMDs lol. Things that make you go hmmmm.

It doesn't sound good,  I don't condone what he accused of, i find it sad that so many seem to be enjoying the salacious details of someone's downfall. 

Jesus once said, let he is without sin cast the first stone.  So many here throwing rocks... hope you are proud up there in the moral high ground. 

Yes, if you have committed one sin you have committed them all. So I can’t say anything because I am no better than Mirtl, even if he did do all that he is accused of.

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2/1/2025 5:02pm
AssangeMX wrote:
So the moto "media" can't summon a single fact on any story, and now we have this,  they've consistently lined up a long list of facts.It...

So the moto "media" can't summon a single fact on any story, and now we have this,  they've consistently lined up a long list of facts.

It feels like when the news found WMDs lol. Things that make you go hmmmm.

It doesn't sound good,  I don't condone what he accused of, i find it sad that so many seem to be enjoying the salacious details of someone's downfall. 

Jesus once said, let he is without sin cast the first stone.  So many here throwing rocks... hope you are proud up there in the moral high ground. 

LungButter wrote:

Ironic that Jesus said that given that religious folk are the most judgmental people on this planet. 

Not ironic at all. Like everyone else they are trying to be a better human today than they were yesterday lol. 

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2/1/2025 5:03pm
AssangeMX wrote:
So the moto "media" can't summon a single fact on any story, and now we have this,  they've consistently lined up a long list of facts.It...

So the moto "media" can't summon a single fact on any story, and now we have this,  they've consistently lined up a long list of facts.

It feels like when the news found WMDs lol. Things that make you go hmmmm.

It doesn't sound good,  I don't condone what he accused of, i find it sad that so many seem to be enjoying the salacious details of someone's downfall. 

Jesus once said, let he is without sin cast the first stone.  So many here throwing rocks... hope you are proud up there in the moral high ground. 

LungButter wrote:

Ironic that Jesus said that given that religious folk are the most judgmental people on this planet. 

There is a difference between judging a situation so as to know how to proceed in your own life…..and


Judging/condemning a person to death!

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2/1/2025 9:57pm

So KTM goes in debt and gets to pay back penny’s on the dollar, and Mirtl is probably going to pay back penny’s on the dollar to the Lawrence’s. Theives make out!!!

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2/1/2025 10:04pm

Mirtl was spending that money like he WAS the athlete, seems like he was the one who needed the manager/agent to keep the money flowing through. It wasn’t just $500 here and there, he should’ve known he was going to get caught, just had to keep doing it one last time. 

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2/1/2025 10:31pm
if he'd just show up and spitball with us, he'd be seen as an original OG and be a great member. Instead he just randomly pops...

if he'd just show up and spitball with us, he'd be seen as an original OG and be a great member. Instead he just randomly pops in, shoots off a passive aggressive insult or two, then vanishes when others confront him. It's unfortunate.

I think GuyB comes across like he hates everyone on Vital.

I'd guess all the time he spent on here being the head tard-wrangler wouldn't help there, having to deal with the dumbest of the dumb on a daily basis (among us idiot motocross fans) would probably impact your viewpoint...

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2/4/2025 9:22am Edited Date/Time 2/4/2025 9:23am
AssangeMX wrote:
So the moto "media" can't summon a single fact on any story, and now we have this,  they've consistently lined up a long list of facts.It...

So the moto "media" can't summon a single fact on any story, and now we have this,  they've consistently lined up a long list of facts.

It feels like when the news found WMDs lol. Things that make you go hmmmm.

It doesn't sound good,  I don't condone what he accused of, i find it sad that so many seem to be enjoying the salacious details of someone's downfall. 

Jesus once said, let he is without sin cast the first stone.  So many here throwing rocks... hope you are proud up there in the moral high ground. 

vdrsnk04 wrote:
Yes, if you have committed one sin you have committed them all. So I can’t say anything because I am no better than Mirtl, even if...

Yes, if you have committed one sin you have committed them all. So I can’t say anything because I am no better than Mirtl, even if he did do all that he is accused of.

Yes, you can actually. That's taken out of context. The "all sins being equal" thing is hyperbole to impress upon His followers the importance of keeping the law in their heart and not following the path of the pharisees (where they "negotiate" the letter of the law and relatavize sin)

You shouldn't judge others to make yourself feel better than they as the most righteous are still but wearing filthy rags, but if you take your doctrine to the extreme, you've given the church no power to reject and rebuke whore houses and the like. That clearly don't work. You HAVE to reserve the power to judge. Remember, you are in the world but not of the world. 

 

Judgement =/ condemnation

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is he talking about his deformed toe? Poor guy cant even afford shoes that fit. 🤣

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2/4/2025 9:52am
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Rich people steal money a lot!

Rich, poor, in between, if they have the keys to the account.  Moms with PTA money, non-profit administrators, dads with little league funds, siblings running an estate or with powers of attorney for parent, partners in business, etc. etc. etc.  It happens across full human spectrum.  

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2/4/2025 10:14am

I must have missed it, what is his beef with Racer X? Other than Cooksey in his ear . . . 

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2/4/2025 10:17am
GrapeApe wrote:

I must have missed it, what is his beef with Racer X? Other than Cooksey in his ear . . . 

He complained in the interview that he hadn't even been served yet, and learned of the lawsuit from RacerX.

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