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I believe that was the heat, Phoenix 2012
2013 Heat Race
"As the revs came up and the gate got ready to drop, Ryan Dungey sat up, bounced on the seat a couple times, and didn't launch with everyone else. He'd felt his bike's rear air shock lose pressure. That meant he'd have to go through the LCQ"
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Well he said he’s not a Jett fanboy so I guess you just have to think of him as bizarro Jerry…the opposite of everything he says
Wasn't it Andrew Short who had one of these flatulate itself empty while sitting on the starting line?
I can't recall that incident, not to say it didn't happen. Tony 222 also tested the airshock Europe
I can't find anything definitive on it, but it might have been Dungey who had the failure at the gate. This snip from MXA confirms Short had a failure but doesn't give the circumstances.
Good stuff thanks for sharing!
I don’t think I’d find myself questioning John Tomac’s honesty, so I’d take him at his word. But it really seems odd that with all the hours of testing and practicing that this would be happening during the races this far into the season. Star seems like a very smart team and they seem to bring in top talent to get the equipment right, so it’s bizarre to think that they have just been struggling with this for a while and haven’t went back to some more proven methods for races until they figure out what is causing whatever failure they are experiencing.
Star is like all organizations, sometimes they can't identify an issue, then they solve it and think, that was obvious, why didn't we solve it earlier.
Yeah, but it sounds like it’s only happening to Tomac’s bike, right? Not Webb or Cooper? And is the ‘24 so different that they couldn’t use the ‘23 shock? Maybe it is different enough, but if it fits it was the shock that was leading the ‘23 title deep into the season before his injury. It just amazes me that this is something that would be going on this late in the season, and it sounds like it has been occurring for a while when you read the opening post.
Tweaked knee?
What ever happened with that wp air shock? shelved?
Know someone that was close to the Windham camp BITD and I learned that they ran such tight clearances in the suspension to get “the feel right/comfort” that it’s basically out of tolerance/worn out after one night of racing. I am guessing the Star is pushing those limits as well.
Webb uses a KYB shock, Tomac uses a solid bar, no dampening, and no damping!
Damn, now I’m not sure what to think about Papa Tomac’s story about the shims….! 😎
But does that bar use clamping or clampening?
Pit Row
Clamped!
Dude stfu
What is the online equivalent for you just like the sound of your own voice?
Maybe if you don't read my posts your panties won't get in a wad and your vagina won't hurt anymore. Hope this helps sweetie
He'd still bend that sum'bitch too
I heard from the same story from a buddy who’s at the races every week. It would explain the random drop off. Crazy.
One thing that bothers me about what John Tomac allegedly said was that the rear shock shims have been failing on the stickier type tracks. If they HAVE BEEN failing, that means they had a problem they knew about but still used that setup anyways?? It doesn’t seem like something Yamaha would do but what do I know
What I don't understand is how and why he couldn't use his setup from last year that was so good.
SInce the info is 3rd hand at this point. It could have been changed slightly. And maybe it was the second time they failed? Frustration can lead to using words that may not describe something super accurately. Time is relative. And 2 times would be a lot for a part to fail for a factory team. Perhaps they did not know what it was earlier on. Then thought it could have been a bad part and they went to a fresh supply. And it still failed. 2 or 3 times would be a longtime and a lot of failures for a team of that level. I would take the info for what it is. And not get too into the exact wording since it was repeated in a casual conversation.
Eli might like it enough that he thought the risk was worth it? It is odd that the lap times do not drop more consistently . But that could be many things. Lappers , better lines one lap than the other, the shock being inconsistent causing it to work well one lap and not the next.
Maybe he was thinking about Mcadoo ?
Thanks for the reality check! Thought maybe I was the only one getting tired of his high volume of nonsense posts.
Marsha! Marsha! Marsha! 😅
If he had a hard enough case, like someone mentioned earlier, that could've been all that was needed to bend those shims permanently open and cause the shock valving to fail.
Does anyone have a screenshot of this claimed FB post saying they talked to JT? Just wondering. I still suggest that if it were a bike issue someone official would have said something along those lines. Have not seen that.
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