Jeffrey herlings Speaks out - changes are needed MXGP

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Edited Date/Time 6/11/2024 5:24am

https://gatedrop.com/an-honest-jeffrey-herlings-talks-mxgp-safety-and-m…

 

Respect for jeffrey speaking out. Riders union is a start i would say.

Its baffles me that the riders get no prize money, they put on a show and risk their lives and get zero prize money . Total Bullshit!

why are the teams /riders allowing this?

Making the top crooks millions.

 

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6/11/2024 4:51am

I didn't like the young, arrogant Herlings but the older, mature version is making me a fan. The way money is sucked out of MXGP without ever getting put back into things like safety (never mind prize money) is a scandal - and has been for far too long.

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I would love to see Herlings come over and do a season of MX here. I know he may not be the Herlings of a few years ago, but he is still damn fast and a joy to watch ride. 

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mx317 wrote:
I would love to see Herlings come over and do a season of MX here. I know he may not be the Herlings of a few...

I would love to see Herlings come over and do a season of MX here. I know he may not be the Herlings of a few years ago, but he is still damn fast and a joy to watch ride. 

Heck yes it would be great to get him and Tomac and Roczen all on the track together before they all hang it up. 

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It does seem that with Jeffrey nearing the end of his career he's embracing everything a lot more. His post race comments are a lot different this year.

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6/11/2024 7:48am Edited Date/Time 6/11/2024 7:53am

Few things here to me. Herlings keeps referring to all this money the promoters make and don’t invest back into the series.

- So, how does Herlings know how much or how little the promoter makes. So without that knowledge he is just assuming/speculating. Maybe they are already putting as much as they can afford to back into it. 
 

- Next, why form a union, if you don’t like the series being promoted the way it is, go race another series. Or choose a different career path.

 

- Last, you have all these comments about how to make it better. Great, it’s easy to do nothing and point fingers from the outside at what you think you see, but there is also a lot you don’t see. With that being said, Herlings if you think you can do it better, put your boots on and start your own series to compete with MXGP. Re-invest “all the money people assume you made” into a great mx series and support the riders behind you.

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No one is holding a gun to his head. He could go join a labor union tomorrow and make an honest living.
 

Forgive me if I don’t weep for the millionaire motorcycle racer 

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6/11/2024 8:39am Edited Date/Time 6/11/2024 8:41am
No one is holding a gun to his head. He could go join a labor union tomorrow and make an honest living.   Forgive me if...

No one is holding a gun to his head. He could go join a labor union tomorrow and make an honest living.
 

Forgive me if I don’t weep for the millionaire motorcycle racer 

The "millionaire motorcycle racer" is using his profile to draw attention to the guys who aren't millionaire motorcycle racers and how they're not being looked after - either safety or reward for their efforts.

"Nobody is holding a gun to rider's heads to ride" has also been Luongos' attitude to anyone who complains for years, and is the reason why there's often half empty grids and world class riders are staying in national series, diluting the field in MXGP. Are you saying you're cool with that and riders should either shut up or leave.?

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6/11/2024 8:58am

Maybe if Jeff stops bitching so much he could be as fast as Tim and Jorge again…doubtful though, that pace usually ends in disaster for him

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vdrsnk04 wrote:
Few things here to me. Herlings keeps referring to all this money the promoters make and don’t invest back into the series. - So, how does...

Few things here to me. Herlings keeps referring to all this money the promoters make and don’t invest back into the series.

- So, how does Herlings know how much or how little the promoter makes. So without that knowledge he is just assuming/speculating. Maybe they are already putting as much as they can afford to back into it. 
 

- Next, why form a union, if you don’t like the series being promoted the way it is, go race another series. Or choose a different career path.

 

- Last, you have all these comments about how to make it better. Great, it’s easy to do nothing and point fingers from the outside at what you think you see, but there is also a lot you don’t see. With that being said, Herlings if you think you can do it better, put your boots on and start your own series to compete with MXGP. Re-invest “all the money people assume you made” into a great mx series and support the riders behind you.

Worst take EVER

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6/11/2024 9:06am

Maybe if Jeff stops bitching so much he could be as fast as Tim and Jorge again…doubtful though, that pace usually ends in disaster for him

2nd worst take EVER

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6/11/2024 9:18am

It should be not the riders,but the teams to put the pressure on Infront about safety and the preparation of the tracks,imo!Nice to hear Herlings talking about the problems in MXGP.As an millionaire,he could give a damn about riders earning much less than the factory riders,but to save the future of MXGP,it should change something soon.

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6/11/2024 9:23am

Maybe if Jeff stops bitching so much he could be as fast as Tim and Jorge again…doubtful though, that pace usually ends in disaster for him

Dude, just shut your pie hole. No need to prove how stupid you really are. SMH.

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6/11/2024 9:26am
No one is holding a gun to his head. He could go join a labor union tomorrow and make an honest living.   Forgive me if...

No one is holding a gun to his head. He could go join a labor union tomorrow and make an honest living.
 

Forgive me if I don’t weep for the millionaire motorcycle racer 

Millionaire motorcycle racer who's body will be messed up for the rest of his life because of the injuries he's had.

Yeah I understand being a professional athlete and getting paid to "do what you love" is a very rare and privileged life to have, BUT that doesn't mean it's not incredibly hard work with a lot of pressure.

He's made his millions, so the fact he's speaking out should say something about who he is and how he apparently wants to improve the sport that's made him those millions.

People will find a reason to bitch about ANYTHING. 

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mx317 wrote:
I would love to see Herlings come over and do a season of MX here. I know he may not be the Herlings of a few...

I would love to see Herlings come over and do a season of MX here. I know he may not be the Herlings of a few years ago, but he is still damn fast and a joy to watch ride. 

The way he talked about Jett and how happy he is that Prado is gone aswell next year, I doubt you will ever see him in the US (even if that was his original pre retirement plan). It would be sweet, but I don't see it anymore.

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6/11/2024 10:18am Edited Date/Time 6/11/2024 7:24pm
vdrsnk04 wrote:
Few things here to me. Herlings keeps referring to all this money the promoters make and don’t invest back into the series. - So, how does...

Few things here to me. Herlings keeps referring to all this money the promoters make and don’t invest back into the series.

- So, how does Herlings know how much or how little the promoter makes. So without that knowledge he is just assuming/speculating. Maybe they are already putting as much as they can afford to back into it. 
 

- Next, why form a union, if you don’t like the series being promoted the way it is, go race another series. Or choose a different career path.

 

- Last, you have all these comments about how to make it better. Great, it’s easy to do nothing and point fingers from the outside at what you think you see, but there is also a lot you don’t see. With that being said, Herlings if you think you can do it better, put your boots on and start your own series to compete with MXGP. Re-invest “all the money people assume you made” into a great mx series and support the riders behind you.

Is that you loungo? Why you so mad bro 🤣🤡

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vdrsnk04 wrote:
Few things here to me. Herlings keeps referring to all this money the promoters make and don’t invest back into the series. - So, how does...

Few things here to me. Herlings keeps referring to all this money the promoters make and don’t invest back into the series.

- So, how does Herlings know how much or how little the promoter makes. So without that knowledge he is just assuming/speculating. Maybe they are already putting as much as they can afford to back into it. 
 

- Next, why form a union, if you don’t like the series being promoted the way it is, go race another series. Or choose a different career path.

 

- Last, you have all these comments about how to make it better. Great, it’s easy to do nothing and point fingers from the outside at what you think you see, but there is also a lot you don’t see. With that being said, Herlings if you think you can do it better, put your boots on and start your own series to compete with MXGP. Re-invest “all the money people assume you made” into a great mx series and support the riders behind you.

Dirt_Dawg wrote:

Is that you loungo? Why you so mad bro 🤣🤡

I was thinking the same thing 😂

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6/11/2024 10:22am Edited Date/Time 6/11/2024 10:23am
No one is holding a gun to his head. He could go join a labor union tomorrow and make an honest living.   Forgive me if...

No one is holding a gun to his head. He could go join a labor union tomorrow and make an honest living.
 

Forgive me if I don’t weep for the millionaire motorcycle racer 

Millionaire motorcycle racer who's body will be messed up for the rest of his life because of the injuries he's had. Yeah I understand being a...

Millionaire motorcycle racer who's body will be messed up for the rest of his life because of the injuries he's had.

Yeah I understand being a professional athlete and getting paid to "do what you love" is a very rare and privileged life to have, BUT that doesn't mean it's not incredibly hard work with a lot of pressure.

He's made his millions, so the fact he's speaking out should say something about who he is and how he apparently wants to improve the sport that's made him those millions.

People will find a reason to bitch about ANYTHING. 

Yes including the terrible promoters that gave him a platform to make said “millions.”

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6/11/2024 10:29am
No one is holding a gun to his head. He could go join a labor union tomorrow and make an honest living.   Forgive me if...

No one is holding a gun to his head. He could go join a labor union tomorrow and make an honest living.
 

Forgive me if I don’t weep for the millionaire motorcycle racer 

Millionaire motorcycle racer who's body will be messed up for the rest of his life because of the injuries he's had. Yeah I understand being a...

Millionaire motorcycle racer who's body will be messed up for the rest of his life because of the injuries he's had.

Yeah I understand being a professional athlete and getting paid to "do what you love" is a very rare and privileged life to have, BUT that doesn't mean it's not incredibly hard work with a lot of pressure.

He's made his millions, so the fact he's speaking out should say something about who he is and how he apparently wants to improve the sport that's made him those millions.

People will find a reason to bitch about ANYTHING. 

vdrsnk04 wrote:

Yes including the terrible promoters that gave him a platform to make said “millions.”

Go back to feeling sorry for yourself and not the millionaire athletes. Clearly they have it much easier than you do.

You apparently want him to act like a spoiled entitled athlete? THAT is part of the problem, not the solution.

Seems you are taking this one mighty personal...

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vdrsnk04 wrote:

Yes including the terrible promoters that gave him a platform to make said “millions.”

How about the riders not making millions?Why a lot of riders prefer to race national championships all over europe?By the way,Herlings is the only top rider who raced on a regular basis in different nat. Championships.Not bad for an millionaire!😂

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Oh boy...  Vital is sure delivering the goods today.

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Jeffrey states:

What is happening is shocking. I am aware that this is a dangerous sport. Accidents just happen in motocross. And sometimes that’s just bad luck. But the organisation can also reduce the risk of accidents and make care better. But they don’t. 

...Take the finish jump at the GP in Portugal. If you jump off along there, after 30 metres you fall straight onto the concrete. 

Herlings also mentions having experienced track crews, flagger, etc. along with safer tracks which belies the point of track safety itself; namely that tracks have a responsibility to ensure track safety beyond the inherent risks of riding a track itself. A point that was lost on many in the LACR thread. 

In short, signing a waiver is not a get-out-of-jail-free card for track owners. Tracks actually are culpable when negligence can be shown on their part.  The response should be for everyone from riders to promoters and track owners to work together to eliminate unnecessary dangers beyond what is already assumed when riding on a track. 

 

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6/11/2024 11:09am

He chose the path he's on, speaking out towards the end may not have the weight he hopes. Union has been the great fantasy since the 80s. 

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6/11/2024 11:20am Edited Date/Time 6/11/2024 3:42pm

The incident with Van Donnick was just disgusting.

David Loungo has still not addressed the fact that Louis Vosters had to come up with cash in order to get a rider who is not even on his team treated for a broken leg at the opening round in Argentina.

For the promoter not to have adequate medical resources pre arranged  in whatever country they are racing in is just shameful. 
 

 



 


 

 

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6/11/2024 11:48am
No one is holding a gun to his head. He could go join a labor union tomorrow and make an honest living.   Forgive me if...

No one is holding a gun to his head. He could go join a labor union tomorrow and make an honest living.
 

Forgive me if I don’t weep for the millionaire motorcycle racer 

The "millionaire motorcycle racer" is using his profile to draw attention to the guys who aren't millionaire motorcycle racers and how they're not being looked after...

The "millionaire motorcycle racer" is using his profile to draw attention to the guys who aren't millionaire motorcycle racers and how they're not being looked after - either safety or reward for their efforts.

"Nobody is holding a gun to rider's heads to ride" has also been Luongos' attitude to anyone who complains for years, and is the reason why there's often half empty grids and world class riders are staying in national series, diluting the field in MXGP. Are you saying you're cool with that and riders should either shut up or leave.?

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6/11/2024 12:11pm Edited Date/Time 6/11/2024 12:11pm
Brent wrote:
The incident with Van Donnick was just disgusting. David Loungo has still not addressed the fact that Louis Vosters had to come up with cash in...

The incident with Van Donnick was just disgusting.

David Loungo has still not addressed the fact that Louis Vosters had to come up with cash in order to get a rider who is not even on his team treated for a broken leg at the opening round in Argentina.

For the promoter not to have adequate medical resources pre arranged  in whatever country they are racing in is just shameful. 
 

 



 


 

 

If you take these guys away

- Vosters (Wilvo)

- Mathys (Standing)

- Hennekens (Nestaan Husqvarna)

- Fasé (F&H)

- VRT Yamaha (don’t know his name; Construction company if i’m right)

- Corvers (Kemea Yamaha)

- Hutten (Hutten metaal Yamaha)

- Gariboldi (HRC)

.. then MXGP would have a seriously problem. I probably forgot a few, just writing this up quickly. But thanks to these men, most of these riders are behind the gate. Yes, they have sponsors and factory support. But they have poured a LOT of money in the sport for years.

If you have time, read this interview with Tim Mathys. Smart man: https://gatedrop.com/interview-tim-mathys-talks-mxgp-standing-construct…

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Brent wrote:
The incident with Van Donnick was just disgusting. David Loungo has still not addressed the fact that Louis Vosters had to come up with cash in...

The incident with Van Donnick was just disgusting.

David Loungo has still not addressed the fact that Louis Vosters had to come up with cash in order to get a rider who is not even on his team treated for a broken leg at the opening round in Argentina.

For the promoter not to have adequate medical resources pre arranged  in whatever country they are racing in is just shameful. 
 

 



 


 

 

Cortami79 wrote:
If you take these guys away - Vosters (Wilvo) - Mathys (Standing) - Hennekens (Nestaan Husqvarna) - Fasé (F&H) - VRT Yamaha (don’t know his name...

If you take these guys away

- Vosters (Wilvo)

- Mathys (Standing)

- Hennekens (Nestaan Husqvarna)

- Fasé (F&H)

- VRT Yamaha (don’t know his name; Construction company if i’m right)

- Corvers (Kemea Yamaha)

- Hutten (Hutten metaal Yamaha)

- Gariboldi (HRC)

.. then MXGP would have a seriously problem. I probably forgot a few, just writing this up quickly. But thanks to these men, most of these riders are behind the gate. Yes, they have sponsors and factory support. But they have poured a LOT of money in the sport for years.

If you have time, read this interview with Tim Mathys. Smart man: https://gatedrop.com/interview-tim-mathys-talks-mxgp-standing-construct…

-VRT (Mikael Vrignon, Vrignon Construction)

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No one is holding a gun to his head. He could go join a labor union tomorrow and make an honest living.   Forgive me if...

No one is holding a gun to his head. He could go join a labor union tomorrow and make an honest living.
 

Forgive me if I don’t weep for the millionaire motorcycle racer 

Millionaire motorcycle racer who's body will be messed up for the rest of his life because of the injuries he's had. Yeah I understand being a...

Millionaire motorcycle racer who's body will be messed up for the rest of his life because of the injuries he's had.

Yeah I understand being a professional athlete and getting paid to "do what you love" is a very rare and privileged life to have, BUT that doesn't mean it's not incredibly hard work with a lot of pressure.

He's made his millions, so the fact he's speaking out should say something about who he is and how he apparently wants to improve the sport that's made him those millions.

People will find a reason to bitch about ANYTHING. 

vdrsnk04 wrote:

Yes including the terrible promoters that gave him a platform to make said “millions.”

Good morning David

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Luongo is a crook, and I’ll happily support any rider with the balls to stand up to him. Unfortunately it’s hard to see the teams/riders uniting until something horrible (death/paralysis or other severe injury as a result of negligence) happens. Hopefully soon there will be a lot of backlash against the Luongo mafia, but I’m not holding my breath

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