Deegan, Lawrence, AUSX Open | Story

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11/29/2024 10:34am
nrosso391 wrote:

So you're pissed at the whistleblower for exposing the Lawrences childish actions?

-MAVERICK- wrote:

It's not childish, it's business. 

Only a fool would agree to pay 100k this close to a sold out event. 

Obviously this is an individual who grew up getting a trophy for 10th place.

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11/29/2024 3:32pm
nrosso391 wrote:

So you're pissed at the whistleblower for exposing the Lawrences childish actions?

-MAVERICK- wrote:

It's not childish, it's business. 

Only a fool would agree to pay 100k this close to a sold out event. 

With 8 hours before the first gate drop, there are 606 tickets left to sell, that's not bad for a stadium with a capacity of 53,343.

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11/29/2024 3:55pm
ACBraap wrote:

If trophies were awarded for creating internet drama, the Deegans would be the GOAT.

His trophy for creating drama is money. 

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11/29/2024 4:19pm
Crossup wrote:
My only question is, if the Lawrences as racers, weren't involved in the management of the event, would the AUSX managers have allowed Deegan to race...

My only question is, if the Lawrences as racers, weren't involved in the management of the event, would the AUSX managers have allowed Deegan to race and paid him. My guess as they would too maximize. competition and draw for the event.

It seems like a little bit of a conflict of interest because the Lawrences are involved in the management of the event and can make decisions on other racers.

All other things being the same, minus the Lawrences being involved, I'd say no, Deegan still wouldn't be there. As it's been explained multiple times before in this thread and the other one, there's no need to pay Deegan six figures to be at a race that's basically sold out already. The only thing that would be different is we would have never heard anything about it because the Deegans wouldn't have had anyone to cause drama with. 

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11/29/2024 6:42pm
Crossup wrote:
My only question is, if the Lawrences as racers, weren't involved in the management of the event, would the AUSX managers have allowed Deegan to race...

My only question is, if the Lawrences as racers, weren't involved in the management of the event, would the AUSX managers have allowed Deegan to race and paid him. My guess as they would too maximize. competition and draw for the event.

It seems like a little bit of a conflict of interest because the Lawrences are involved in the management of the event and can make decisions on other racers.

They can’t make decisions on whether other riders can enter.  They are one part of a management group who collectively decide if/what they are going to pay a marquee overseas rider any appearance money.  

It’s an overseas race for any US based riders, and it’s only one round out of five for the Australian SX championship.  There is no conflict of any material consequence to anybody.

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11/29/2024 6:45pm
Crossup wrote:
My only question is, if the Lawrences as racers, weren't involved in the management of the event, would the AUSX managers have allowed Deegan to race...

My only question is, if the Lawrences as racers, weren't involved in the management of the event, would the AUSX managers have allowed Deegan to race and paid him. My guess as they would too maximize. competition and draw for the event.

It seems like a little bit of a conflict of interest because the Lawrences are involved in the management of the event and can make decisions on other racers.

Sully wrote:
All other things being the same, minus the Lawrences being involved, I'd say no, Deegan still wouldn't be there. As it's been explained multiple times before...

All other things being the same, minus the Lawrences being involved, I'd say no, Deegan still wouldn't be there. As it's been explained multiple times before in this thread and the other one, there's no need to pay Deegan six figures to be at a race that's basically sold out already. The only thing that would be different is we would have never heard anything about it because the Deegans wouldn't have had anyone to cause drama with. 

Even beyond those reasons, why would they fork out money for any top US rider to come and ride the 250 class with no real competition?  With the Lawrence’s both riding back in Australia for the first time in many years, I don’t think Deegan would have moved the needle significantly with attendance numbers.

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11/29/2024 7:05pm
Crossup wrote:
My only question is, if the Lawrences as racers, weren't involved in the management of the event, would the AUSX managers have allowed Deegan to race...

My only question is, if the Lawrences as racers, weren't involved in the management of the event, would the AUSX managers have allowed Deegan to race and paid him. My guess as they would too maximize. competition and draw for the event.

It seems like a little bit of a conflict of interest because the Lawrences are involved in the management of the event and can make decisions on other racers.

Sully wrote:
All other things being the same, minus the Lawrences being involved, I'd say no, Deegan still wouldn't be there. As it's been explained multiple times before...

All other things being the same, minus the Lawrences being involved, I'd say no, Deegan still wouldn't be there. As it's been explained multiple times before in this thread and the other one, there's no need to pay Deegan six figures to be at a race that's basically sold out already. The only thing that would be different is we would have never heard anything about it because the Deegans wouldn't have had anyone to cause drama with. 

ando wrote:
Even beyond those reasons, why would they fork out money for any top US rider to come and ride the 250 class with no real competition...

Even beyond those reasons, why would they fork out money for any top US rider to come and ride the 250 class with no real competition?  With the Lawrence’s both riding back in Australia for the first time in many years, I don’t think Deegan would have moved the needle significantly with attendance numbers.

3 hours until the main gates open, 514 tickets left for sale, quick lets find 514 people who are willing to pay AU$300 each, so Deegan can get his $100,000 and doesn't have to live in a tent!

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11/29/2024 7:28pm
Crossup wrote:
My only question is, if the Lawrences as racers, weren't involved in the management of the event, would the AUSX managers have allowed Deegan to race...

My only question is, if the Lawrences as racers, weren't involved in the management of the event, would the AUSX managers have allowed Deegan to race and paid him. My guess as they would too maximize. competition and draw for the event.

It seems like a little bit of a conflict of interest because the Lawrences are involved in the management of the event and can make decisions on other racers.

Sully wrote:
All other things being the same, minus the Lawrences being involved, I'd say no, Deegan still wouldn't be there. As it's been explained multiple times before...

All other things being the same, minus the Lawrences being involved, I'd say no, Deegan still wouldn't be there. As it's been explained multiple times before in this thread and the other one, there's no need to pay Deegan six figures to be at a race that's basically sold out already. The only thing that would be different is we would have never heard anything about it because the Deegans wouldn't have had anyone to cause drama with. 

Yeah, didn’t MLs article say the Lawrence’s weren’t the only investors not willing to sign off on it?

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11/29/2024 9:05pm Edited Date/Time 11/29/2024 9:06pm

All emotions aside (sorry that may be hard for some of you), but has big money ever been paid for any 250 rider to compete in the AusX Open? Happy to be corrected, I just can’t think of any.
International riders are paid well to compete in the Aussie series for local teams, however one off, well paid appearances are usually reserved for 450 competitors.

Reality is, in Australia the 250 class barely moves the attendance meter for SX. I’m going tonight and seeing Deegan would have been a bonus, but I don’t care that he’s not there. Sorry, not sorry.

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11/29/2024 9:08pm

Page 5 had me rolling guys, some funny stuff and on that one 🤣🤣🤣🤣

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11/29/2024 9:52pm

The most infuriating thing in all of this, is that A LOT of people have no idea how to properly use an apostrophe.

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mxbmx wrote:

The most infuriating thing in all of this, is that A LOT of people have no idea how to properly use an apostrophe.

You fuckers and YOUR spelling can fuck off.

It's an MX website and yall groupies should understand your heros didn't go to school and can't spell either.

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mxbmx wrote:

The most infuriating thing in all of this, is that A LOT of people have no idea how to properly use an apostrophe.

Sandusky26 wrote:

You fuckers and YOUR spelling can fuck off.

It's an MX website and yall groupies should understand your heros didn't go to school and can't spell either.

"heroes"

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11/30/2024 2:58am
mxbmx wrote:

The most infuriating thing in all of this, is that A LOT of people have no idea how to properly use an apostrophe.

Sandusky26 wrote:

You fuckers and YOUR spelling can fuck off.

It's an MX website and yall groupies should understand your heros didn't go to school and can't spell either.

CPR wrote:

"heroes"

I have my grade 12.

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11/30/2024 8:09am
Sandusky26 wrote:

You fuckers and YOUR spelling can fuck off.

It's an MX website and yall groupies should understand your heros didn't go to school and can't spell either.

CPR wrote:

"heroes"

Sandusky26 wrote:

I have my grade 12.

Make the cut on your 4th try?

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11/30/2024 1:07pm
CPR wrote:

"heroes"

Sandusky26 wrote:

I have my grade 12.

jjavaman wrote:

Make the cut on your 4th try?

Someone took that personally...

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11/30/2024 1:14pm
CPR wrote:

"heroes"

Sandusky26 wrote:

I have my grade 12.

jjavaman wrote:

Make the cut on your 4th try?

You Canadians don't know shit about the "cut"

Ain't no gangsters in Canada 

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11/30/2024 1:45pm Edited Date/Time 11/30/2024 1:47pm

They should have brought Deegan over to help out the show. Jett only ended up giving the crowd 8 laps worth of entertainment.🤪

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11/30/2024 2:39pm
mxlegend99 wrote:
Either Jett and Hunter are out of pocket. Or Deegan potentially is (he had never actually agreed to race or said he was going to, he...

Either Jett and Hunter are out of pocket. Or Deegan potentially is (he had never actually agreed to race or said he was going to, he might have decided they weren't paying him enough still).  

But apparently it's not ok for Jett and Hunter to decide they don't want to lose cash by eating into the event profits just to pump up Deegans bank account.

The event is nearly sold out and paying him to show up and lap second place would have been a stupid business decision that would have put them out of pocket. They made the obvious decision. The exact same decision Deegan would have made if he was in their position. Why spend more money if you can't make more money? 


 

mikelawlor wrote:
Was going to say the same thing. The event it almost already sold out. Does anyone really care to watch Deegan lap the whole field as...

Was going to say the same thing. The event it almost already sold out. Does anyone really care to watch Deegan lap the whole field as the only 250 headliner. It would be like watching Derek Jeter show up to a high school baseball game and whoop everyone’s ass. Not very entertaining. Now if he was going to race a 450 or had signed a deal before tickets were almost sold out that would be a different story. 

Your baseball reference is lacking but if Shohei Ohtani showed up at a high school game it would be an insanely big deal. People love superstars 

Right. Everyone stop being so disingenuous. I'd be pumped just to watch Deegan at a practice track. 

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11/30/2024 3:11pm
mikelawlor wrote:
Was going to say the same thing. The event it almost already sold out. Does anyone really care to watch Deegan lap the whole field as...

Was going to say the same thing. The event it almost already sold out. Does anyone really care to watch Deegan lap the whole field as the only 250 headliner. It would be like watching Derek Jeter show up to a high school baseball game and whoop everyone’s ass. Not very entertaining. Now if he was going to race a 450 or had signed a deal before tickets were almost sold out that would be a different story. 

Your baseball reference is lacking but if Shohei Ohtani showed up at a high school game it would be an insanely big deal. People love superstars 

Right. Everyone stop being so disingenuous. I'd be pumped just to watch Deegan at a practice track. 

Sounds gay.

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11/30/2024 9:09pm

I don’t know if because of SM saturation or what but I have Deegan fatigue - he’s been the second coming of MX for damn near 15 yrs.   Awesome rider/racer but can we just get on with and throw him the pit with Jett.  He’s prob got more hrs on a bike than anyone out there - pull the bandaid - quit fucking around in the minors and do this…

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11/30/2024 9:18pm

Vince Friese here....how did Deegan do?

 

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Well............ 

When you talk shit on someone, that shit sticks around. 

Sometimes it doesn't matter how well you can dance, you still might not be invited to the dance. 

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12/1/2024 3:00am

The moral of the story is, Deegan got an offer months ago like Webb did, he didn't think anything of it and didn't even reply to them. Then 2 to 3 weeks out when the event is sold out he decides he wants to go to test his injury out before A1, smart move. But when the event is sold out, your $100k show up fee is a pure waste of money to the event and promoter. The Lawrence's screwed up by getting their manager to ring Deegan to let him know he wasn't required, not having someone from the event hierarchy to make that call.

Deegans have enough money that if they wanted to they could have jumped on a plane to Melbourne, either sent a bike or sourced a bike locally and brought the parts they needed to be competitive and finally entered the event as any person could have. Jeremy Coker and Webb were going there, it wouldn't have been hard to organise.

Just because my opinion is unpopular doesn't mean it's not right.

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