Chase vs Jett Outdoors

I’m going with Chase but it might be close. 

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Press516
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5/15/2023 8:15pm

I think Dylan will give them both a run at various tracks too…

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5/15/2023 8:17pm
Press516 wrote:

I think Dylan will give them both a run at various tracks too…

Fernandez (mispelling intended) was fast a couple years ago but I think his confidence is gone unless he can rebuild it. 

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5/15/2023 8:19pm
Press516 wrote:

I think Dylan will give them both a run at various tracks too…

More likely it will be Plessinger that will give them a run for their money.

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5/15/2023 8:35pm
Press516 wrote:

I think Dylan will give them both a run at various tracks too…

More likely it will be Plessinger that will give them a run for their money.

He'll most likely have his best season with the field looking the way it does heading into round 1, but I'd be very surprised if Plessinger took that next-level leap in speed to battle for wins. 

Southwick Moto 1: 7th +42.313
Southwick Moto 2: 3rd +15.511

Ironman Moto 1: 3rd +32.766
Ironman Moto 2: 3rd +36.439

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5/15/2023 8:38pm

I think sexton would be the favourite for the series.

But would jett be the favourite for pala?

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mx313 wrote:

I think sexton would be the favourite for the series.

But would jett be the favourite for pala?

Jett hasn't lost a single race at Pala, but he's also stepping up to the 450 class.

It'll be interesting to see if he can win it for the sixth time. 

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1st: 1-2

2021 Fox Raceway 1
1st: 2-1

2021 Fox Raceway 2
1st: 1-1

2022 Fox Raceway 1
1st: 1-1

2022 Fox Raceway 2
1st: 1-2

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5/15/2023 9:12pm
mx313 wrote:

I think sexton would be the favourite for the series.

But would jett be the favourite for pala?

-MAVERICK- wrote:
Jett hasn't lost a single race at Pala, but he's also stepping up to the 450 class. It'll be interesting to see if he can win...

Jett hasn't lost a single race at Pala, but he's also stepping up to the 450 class.

It'll be interesting to see if he can win it for the sixth time. 

2020 Fox Raceway 
1st: 1-2

2021 Fox Raceway 1
1st: 2-1

2021 Fox Raceway 2
1st: 1-1

2022 Fox Raceway 1
1st: 1-1

2022 Fox Raceway 2
1st: 1-2

That's my point.

If you were told jett wins 1 overall. Which track is it most likely to happen at? I think it most likely be pala. And that just happens to be round 1. So it's a good opportunity to start the year off good. Given the field and the track I would probably put him as favourite for pala. 

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5/15/2023 10:16pm
Press516 wrote:

I think Dylan will give them both a run at various tracks too…

Fernandez (mispelling intended) was fast a couple years ago but I think his confidence is gone unless he can rebuild it. 

He beat Sexton and Jett last September in their qualifying race at MXdN. 

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5/15/2023 10:40pm Edited Date/Time 5/15/2023 10:41pm
-MAVERICK- wrote:

He beat Sexton and Jett last September in their qualifying race at MXdN. 

That’s true. It was also before he got hurt in supies.  To be honest I like Dylan and I hope he can get back to his former outdoor dominance.  If he can get his confidence back he is one of the only guys that has a stronger mental game than Jett or Chase. 

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5/15/2023 10:45pm Edited Date/Time 5/15/2023 11:21pm

In my barely educated armchair opinion, I can't see Ferrandis' confidence going anywhere.

If he's healthy and still getting on well with the bike, he'll be fun to watch.

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-MAVERICK- wrote:

He beat Sexton and Jett last September in their qualifying race at MXdN. 

That’s true. It was also before he got hurt in supies.  To be honest I like Dylan and I hope he can get back to his...

That’s true. It was also before he got hurt in supies.  To be honest I like Dylan and I hope he can get back to his former outdoor dominance.  If he can get his confidence back he is one of the only guys that has a stronger mental game than Jett or Chase. 

Dylan got hurt in SX 2022 and just before the 2022 Nationals started. He went to the MXdN after not racing much at all in 2022 and did great all things considered. 

I think he'll be fine. 

AC was cautious indoors this year, but he has a lot of speed outdoors. He didn't race the nationals last year, but he got a couple of podiums in 2021 and some wins in 2020. It'll be interesting to see if he can come back strong and win motos/races. He could get in the mix in some races.  

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5/16/2023 1:01am
Press516 wrote:

I think Dylan will give them both a run at various tracks too…

Fernandez (mispelling intended) was fast a couple years ago but I think his confidence is gone unless he can rebuild it. 

Why is the misspelling intended?

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5/16/2023 6:20am

Jett will win the Championship. 

Agreed. He is winning from the start of his 450 career.

I like Chase, and yes, I'm aware that he battled Eli tooth and nail for the '22 championship, but Jett is a one of a kind that is ready to start manufacturing a load of championships.

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5/16/2023 6:27am

Why is the misspelling intended?

To make fun of goofballs who call him by the incorrect name unironically.

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5/16/2023 6:31am Edited Date/Time 5/16/2023 6:35am

Jett will win the Championship. 

Mick 22 wrote:
Agreed. He is winning from the start of his 450 career. I like Chase, and yes, I'm aware that he battled Eli tooth and nail for...

Agreed. He is winning from the start of his 450 career.

I like Chase, and yes, I'm aware that he battled Eli tooth and nail for the '22 championship, but Jett is a one of a kind that is ready to start manufacturing a load of championships.

That’s some high level fanboy wordsmithing, you used the phrase “manufacturing a load”..

Jett will probably win at least one, but I think Chase, Dylan or AP will win the title and fill the podium alongside Jett. 

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5/16/2023 7:24am
-MAVERICK- wrote:

He beat Sexton and Jett last September in their qualifying race at MXdN. 

That’s true. It was also before he got hurt in supies.  To be honest I like Dylan and I hope he can get back to his...

That’s true. It was also before he got hurt in supies.  To be honest I like Dylan and I hope he can get back to his former outdoor dominance.  If he can get his confidence back he is one of the only guys that has a stronger mental game than Jett or Chase. 

If lap times count for anything, Dylan should be fine.

From mxdn, the only race the 3 of them raced each other (3 times)

Qual moto
Ferrandis: 2:02.373
Sexton: 2:02.632
Lawrence: 2:03.669

Moto 2
Ferrandis: 2:12.988
Sexton: 2:15.177
Lawrence: 2:14.982

Moto 3
Ferrandis: 2:09.364
Sexton: 2:11.941
Lawrence: 2:09.698

Not saying he wins the title, but people are quick to forget how freaking fast this guy is outdoors. If he can get a win early in the season and get his confidence back, I absolutely expect him to be challenging these two.

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5/16/2023 7:29am

^^ I love the lap time comparisons, except what it doesn't show is Jett was ahead in both Motos  and won 1 of them. Chase finished behind Jett both times and Ferandis was third of the three, but far behind.

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5/16/2023 7:34am

Super bummed about Tomac but I’m going with Jett for the championship. He could run 2nd on his 250 in the 450 class IMO. So, I think he’ll win on the 450.

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5/16/2023 8:06am
kxking wrote:
^^ I love the lap time comparisons, except what it doesn't show is Jett was ahead in both Motos  and won 1 of them. Chase finished...

^^ I love the lap time comparisons, except what it doesn't show is Jett was ahead in both Motos  and won 1 of them. Chase finished behind Jett both times and Ferandis was third of the three, but far behind.

Yeah they definitely don't tell the whole story. They also don't tell that Ferrandis crashed at the start in moto 2 and came from last. Moto 3 he was leading and crashed. Although that crash was 100% on him

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5/16/2023 8:10am
Press516 wrote:

I think Dylan will give them both a run at various tracks too…

More likely it will be Plessinger that will give them a run for their money.

We were talking about this last night. I think ap7 is definitely worth a mention as possible champ. 

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5/16/2023 8:57am

Is Jett going to have the same "bike problems" as Kenny and Chase? 

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5/16/2023 9:06am

Jett wins the championship. Sexton wins in a street fight.

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5/16/2023 10:07am

Is Jett going to have the same "bike problems" as Kenny and Chase? 

I don't recall Chase having any bike problems in MX last year...

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5/16/2023 10:18am

Jett will be good, but I don't think he's getting close to Sexton this year. Jett and Ferrandis are fighting for p2.

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5/16/2023 10:57am
crusty_xx wrote:
If lap times count for anything, Dylan should be fine. From mxdn, the only race the 3 of them raced each other (3 times) Qual moto...

If lap times count for anything, Dylan should be fine.

From mxdn, the only race the 3 of them raced each other (3 times)

Qual moto
Ferrandis: 2:02.373
Sexton: 2:02.632
Lawrence: 2:03.669

Moto 2
Ferrandis: 2:12.988
Sexton: 2:15.177
Lawrence: 2:14.982

Moto 3
Ferrandis: 2:09.364
Sexton: 2:11.941
Lawrence: 2:09.698

Not saying he wins the title, but people are quick to forget how freaking fast this guy is outdoors. If he can get a win early in the season and get his confidence back, I absolutely expect him to be challenging these two.

Sexton, Ferrandis and Lawrence were also on the track together in Timed Practice and Jett was the quickest of the trio.

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kxking wrote:
^^ I love the lap time comparisons, except what it doesn't show is Jett was ahead in both Motos  and won 1 of them. Chase finished...

^^ I love the lap time comparisons, except what it doesn't show is Jett was ahead in both Motos  and won 1 of them. Chase finished behind Jett both times and Ferandis was third of the three, but far behind.

crusty_xx wrote:
Yeah they definitely don't tell the whole story. They also don't tell that Ferrandis crashed at the start in moto 2 and came from last. Moto...

Yeah they definitely don't tell the whole story. They also don't tell that Ferrandis crashed at the start in moto 2 and came from last. Moto 3 he was leading and crashed. Although that crash was 100% on him

Wasn't he something crazy, like 3-5 seconds a lap faster than anyone towards the end of the 3rd moto?

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5/16/2023 11:09am

Maybe, but he had fallen twice at that point and was way behind. The leaders were cruising home.

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