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tuttle425 wrote:

BS IMO. He was past the flags, rider, and obstacles of the incident. 

DownSouth wrote:

So what? The lights were on and everyone else rolled the section. He gained an advantage by ignoring or not seeing the lights.

tuttle425 wrote:

I saw no lights on that jump. Where were they?

what everyone else does is 100% irrelevant. 

The lights were flashing on the top of the jump.  Easy to see.

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Trickamoto wrote:
How did McElrath get so terrible? I mean that guy is worse than that lowest supported main event guys. He could use a benching doesn't look...

How did McElrath get so terrible? I mean that guy is worse than that lowest supported main event guys. He could use a benching doesn't look like he's trying.

Moved up to the 450. 

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DownSouth wrote:

So what? The lights were on and everyone else rolled the section. He gained an advantage by ignoring or not seeing the lights.

tuttle425 wrote:

I saw no lights on that jump. Where were they?

what everyone else does is 100% irrelevant. 

Berm wrote:

The lights were flashing on the top of the jump.  Easy to see.

NM, I see them now.

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3/18/2023 8:05pm

Damn, Deegan came off as a spoiled little prick in the post race press conference.  

Thank you David Izer for having the cajones to ask the questions.

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7 point penalty for Sexton?

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3/18/2023 8:16pm

7 points? Damn. I feel like 3 would have been more than enough. No one was actually in danger. 

That sucks. Huge hit on his championship run. 

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3/18/2023 8:21pm

Interesting to hear hunter defending deegan in the interview

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3/18/2023 8:22pm Edited Date/Time 3/18/2023 8:30pm
elsinore wrote:
Damn, Deegan came off as a spoiled little prick in the post race press conference.   Thank you David Izer for having the cajones to ask...

Damn, Deegan came off as a spoiled little prick in the post race press conference.  

Thank you David Izer for having the cajones to ask the questions.

And thanks Hunter Lawrence for pointing out how stupid he was. (The reporter)

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elsinore wrote:
Damn, Deegan came off as a spoiled little prick in the post race press conference.   Thank you David Izer for having the cajones to ask...

Damn, Deegan came off as a spoiled little prick in the post race press conference.  

Thank you David Izer for having the cajones to ask the questions.

WVHick wrote:

And thanks Hunter Lawrence for pointing out how stupid he was. (The reporter)

I don't know what interview you watched but Hunter defended him if anything

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elsinore wrote:
Damn, Deegan came off as a spoiled little prick in the post race press conference.   Thank you David Izer for having the cajones to ask...

Damn, Deegan came off as a spoiled little prick in the post race press conference.  

Thank you David Izer for having the cajones to ask the questions.

WVHick wrote:

And thanks Hunter Lawrence for pointing out how stupid he was. (The reporter)

NP301 wrote:

I don't know what interview you watched but Hunter defended him if anything

I was referring to the reporter.

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elsinore wrote:
Damn, Deegan came off as a spoiled little prick in the post race press conference.   Thank you David Izer for having the cajones to ask...

Damn, Deegan came off as a spoiled little prick in the post race press conference.  

Thank you David Izer for having the cajones to ask the questions.

Agreed.  There's coming off as young and unpolished due to lack of exposure, then there's coming off as young and arrogant.  He definitely comes off as the later in that interview.  

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3/18/2023 10:39pm

Deegan is a little shit. What a POS. I don't care how old he is that was complete bullshit. 

Couldn't agree more. And not one penalty handed down. If that was anybody else there ass would be on probation, and penalized. 4 corners in a row isn't a "racing incident". And then to be a smug little asshole about it in the press conference. Any respect I had for him is gone. If your gonna play dirty, at least have the balls to tell it like it is. Not I don't remember. Ok rant over. Still pissed about sexton being docked 7 points. And poor AP sacking out on the last lap

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3/18/2023 11:53pm
Trickamoto wrote:
How did McElrath get so terrible? I mean that guy is worse than that lowest supported main event guys. He could use a benching doesn't look...

How did McElrath get so terrible? I mean that guy is worse than that lowest supported main event guys. He could use a benching doesn't look like he's trying.

I was wondering the same thing. He was a 250 title contender I believe battling sexton and now sextons winning and he should not be getting beat by about 5 or 6 semi privateers everyweek 

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3/18/2023 11:58pm

Fastest laps of the races

 

250

 

53.083 = Hunter Lawrence 

53.622 = Jeremy Martin 

53.628 = Nate Trasher 

53.998 = Haiden Deegan 

54.965 = Chris Blose 

55.339 = Tom Vialle 

55.441 = Coty Schock 

55.664 = Cullin Park 

55.723 = Caden Braswell

55.917 = Henry Miller

 

450

 

52.085 = Aaron Plessinger 

52.566 = Chase Sexton 

52.596 = Eli Tomac 

52.676 = Jason Anderson 

52.763 = Ken Roczen 

52.816 = Justin Barcia 

52.832 = Cooper Webb 

53.096 = Adam Cianciarulo 

53.439 = Christian Craig 

54.238 = Justin Hill

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3/19/2023 7:41am

So Hunter would have been lapped in the 450 main and he had the advantage of a fresher track? Can we slow the hype train down plz

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3/19/2023 9:24am

We saw a brief moment of Tomac showing Tomac speed passing Webb. And then, it was gone. Hmmm....is something more than a stiff neck going on?

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3/19/2023 9:52am Edited Date/Time 3/19/2023 9:54am
Tyler D wrote:
So Hunter would have been lapped in the 450 main and he had the advantage of a fresher track? Can we slow the hype train down...

So Hunter would have been lapped in the 450 main and he had the advantage of a fresher track? Can we slow the hype train down plz

On race average times, in a hypothetical combined field, Hunter would have looked pretty good. The 250 riders bolded.

1. Plessinger  53.797

2  Sexton       54.002

3.  Hunter    54.323

4. Webb        54.410

5.  Thrasher   54.675

6.  Tomac      54.780

7. Deegan     54.863

8. Barcia       54.876

9.  Martin       55.098

10 Kenye       55.118

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Tyler D wrote:
So Hunter would have been lapped in the 450 main and he had the advantage of a fresher track? Can we slow the hype train down...

So Hunter would have been lapped in the 450 main and he had the advantage of a fresher track? Can we slow the hype train down plz

Goldmember wrote:
On race average times, in a hypothetical combined field, Hunter would have looked pretty good. The 250 riders bolded. 1. Plessinger  53.797 2  Sexton   ...

On race average times, in a hypothetical combined field, Hunter would have looked pretty good. The 250 riders bolded.

1. Plessinger  53.797

2  Sexton       54.002

3.  Hunter    54.323

4. Webb        54.410

5.  Thrasher   54.675

6.  Tomac      54.780

7. Deegan     54.863

8. Barcia       54.876

9.  Martin       55.098

10 Kenye       55.118

No doubt Hunter can be a top 5 guy in the 450 class but not every race. However, he could greatly improve just as he has done this year on the 250.

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kpiper wrote:

We saw a brief moment of Tomac showing Tomac speed passing Webb. And then, it was gone. Hmmm....is something more than a stiff neck going on?

The Yips 

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Hunter is legit cruising around. Give him the title now. Lawrence brother beat down this year!

Yeah....so impressive in a depleted field. 

 

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kpiper wrote:

We saw a brief moment of Tomac showing Tomac speed passing Webb. And then, it was gone. Hmmm....is something more than a stiff neck going on?

Oldstyle wrote:

The Yips 

Tomac may get it back, but I think he has lost confidence right now for some reason and it shows. Things can change fast in this sport. His Daytona win does not really count. This seems to have started in Tampa but noticeable since his big crash.

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kpiper wrote:

We saw a brief moment of Tomac showing Tomac speed passing Webb. And then, it was gone. Hmmm....is something more than a stiff neck going on?

Oldstyle wrote:

The Yips 

kpiper wrote:
Tomac may get it back, but I think he has lost confidence right now for some reason and it shows. Things can change fast in this...

Tomac may get it back, but I think he has lost confidence right now for some reason and it shows. Things can change fast in this sport. His Daytona win does not really count. This seems to have started in Tampa but noticeable since his big crash.

Yeah, he hasn't really had a great flow for a whole main event and looked like the clear best guy for a whole race since Houston, save Daytona which he could win with his eyes closed.

Some people seem to be in denial and will point out that he still has more wins than Sexton and Webb combined, but that doesn't tell the whole story. Since Houston, he was horrible at Tampa, very good at Oakland but not dominant, decent but finicky at Arlington, great at Daytona, horrible at Indy, and decent but finicky again in Detroit. 5 wins in 10 races looks real nice, but he's not performing at his usual elite level nearly as consistently as he was last year. There was a period where he was a top 2 guy every single race from Anaheim 2 all the way through Atlanta until he hurt his knee.

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Oldstyle wrote:

The Yips 

kpiper wrote:
Tomac may get it back, but I think he has lost confidence right now for some reason and it shows. Things can change fast in this...

Tomac may get it back, but I think he has lost confidence right now for some reason and it shows. Things can change fast in this sport. His Daytona win does not really count. This seems to have started in Tampa but noticeable since his big crash.

tomlopez wrote:
Yeah, he hasn't really had a great flow for a whole main event and looked like the clear best guy for a whole race since Houston...

Yeah, he hasn't really had a great flow for a whole main event and looked like the clear best guy for a whole race since Houston, save Daytona which he could win with his eyes closed.

Some people seem to be in denial and will point out that he still has more wins than Sexton and Webb combined, but that doesn't tell the whole story. Since Houston, he was horrible at Tampa, very good at Oakland but not dominant, decent but finicky at Arlington, great at Daytona, horrible at Indy, and decent but finicky again in Detroit. 5 wins in 10 races looks real nice, but he's not performing at his usual elite level nearly as consistently as he was last year. There was a period where he was a top 2 guy every single race from Anaheim 2 all the way through Atlanta until he hurt his knee.

Yep exactly, I don’t know if it’s bike issues on different surfaces but I thought the new bike would be better at Detroit type soil. What do I know though? I’m hoping he figures it out, one thing is for sure, this season is fun to watch!

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tomlopez wrote:
Yeah, he hasn't really had a great flow for a whole main event and looked like the clear best guy for a whole race since Houston...

Yeah, he hasn't really had a great flow for a whole main event and looked like the clear best guy for a whole race since Houston, save Daytona which he could win with his eyes closed.

Some people seem to be in denial and will point out that he still has more wins than Sexton and Webb combined, but that doesn't tell the whole story. Since Houston, he was horrible at Tampa, very good at Oakland but not dominant, decent but finicky at Arlington, great at Daytona, horrible at Indy, and decent but finicky again in Detroit. 5 wins in 10 races looks real nice, but he's not performing at his usual elite level nearly as consistently as he was last year. There was a period where he was a top 2 guy every single race from Anaheim 2 all the way through Atlanta until he hurt his knee.

The crash on the tuff blocks is the only thing I can think of. No real aggression since then IMO. Not sure if he will get it back or not. His comments in the press conference were kind of like his racing the last two weeks. Not the same guy as the early races.

Everyone loses the drive to win at some point. Maybe he has reached that point. I would still love to see 50 but not sure if he can flip a switch and make it happen or not. Kind of ironic, he used to start the year slowly and build. Looks the opposite right now.

3/19/2023 10:00pm

I’m still of the belief that Tomac isn’t as comfortable on the new bike. I don’t think the A2 crash has had lingering effects but that’s just my opinion

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I’m still of the belief that Tomac isn’t as comfortable on the new bike. I don’t think the A2 crash has had lingering effects but that’s...

I’m still of the belief that Tomac isn’t as comfortable on the new bike. I don’t think the A2 crash has had lingering effects but that’s just my opinion

Go back and watch his first three races right before that big get off in the triple crown again! He was destroying the whoops and putting the bike anywhere he wanted to and had zero problems getting around anyone!! 

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elsinore wrote:
Damn, Deegan came off as a spoiled little prick in the post race press conference.   Thank you David Izer for having the cajones to ask...

Damn, Deegan came off as a spoiled little prick in the post race press conference.  

Thank you David Izer for having the cajones to ask the questions.

It’s fine to ask hard questions, but how did Deegan take him out of the championship battle?Seemed like he was a little emotional about the situation. Also don’t know many 17 year old boys that act or respond reasonably when being questioned in that manner.

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