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Hey Vitards. Looking for some thoughts/opinions on issues I'm having with my cone valves after their first service.
They are on a 2019 TC125. When I ordered them my supplier suggested running less oil (380cc vs. 440cc) as they had found them to be very harsh.
Forks felt great, massive improvement over the AER forks.
I ride mostly sand in Ireland, but recently started hitting ramps. I was able to find a good setting with clickers and preload for the ramp but for their first service I decided to try 440cc oil just to improve bottoming resistance.
Now after trying them on mx track they still didnt feel harsh, actually very comfortable and perfect in corners, bumps etc. BUT landing off jumps they were super hard, loud thumps and also pushing the forks through the triple clamps!
I also tried a session on the ramp. Very comfortable on landing, even when coming up short once. But what I did notice was the bike wanted to put the front end high a lot.
Sorry for the long article, but just looking for some thoughts on what the issue could be here. Too much oil? Something missed by the mechanic when rebuilding?
My supplier is thinking I may need heavier springs now.
P.S. there is still about 1 inch of travel left in the forks.
They are on a 2019 TC125. When I ordered them my supplier suggested running less oil (380cc vs. 440cc) as they had found them to be very harsh.
Forks felt great, massive improvement over the AER forks.
I ride mostly sand in Ireland, but recently started hitting ramps. I was able to find a good setting with clickers and preload for the ramp but for their first service I decided to try 440cc oil just to improve bottoming resistance.
Now after trying them on mx track they still didnt feel harsh, actually very comfortable and perfect in corners, bumps etc. BUT landing off jumps they were super hard, loud thumps and also pushing the forks through the triple clamps!
I also tried a session on the ramp. Very comfortable on landing, even when coming up short once. But what I did notice was the bike wanted to put the front end high a lot.
Sorry for the long article, but just looking for some thoughts on what the issue could be here. Too much oil? Something missed by the mechanic when rebuilding?
My supplier is thinking I may need heavier springs now.
P.S. there is still about 1 inch of travel left in the forks.
380-385 I use all the stroke, but never any metal to metal feeling, always plush bottoming.
405-420 I get the hydraulic stop between 10-25mm (depending on oil level) from bottom, unless I really over jump and flat land vars (we are talking what would on a oem fork be a wrist killer landing).
So I don't know why WP has gone up so much on the oil level, besides it becomes more plush on big braking bumps as you can charge harder into it.
Ive told my guy to go to 400cc which shouldnt be far away. I can always add/take away myself from there.
Yea I think I will go 20nm on the top clamp as a bit of a fail safe.
Im taking the bike to Cali with me in January and wont get to ride it until then so I really want the suspension perfect. Would hate to lose riding time by having to send the suspension away while Im out there.
Thanks again for the input.
The Shop
Before servicing I played around with clickers and preload to find good settings at each track and a setting that works for the ramp. All written down.
After the service I made sure I was at the previous settings for the track i was at.
I did add preload once I noticed the harshness, loud thumps etc in case it was bottoming. But found little to no difference. Possibly due to too much oil causing the harshness, if that is the issue.
I only had 1 weekend home to test them as I'm working in London until xmas to fund the Cali trip.
Had to jump the gun and leave them back as I had no other chance.
The good thing is I will have plenty of time in cali to play with settings and oil height if necessary.
So long as nothing is majorly wrong I will be happy.
I've just got too much time to think and ask questions right now! haha!
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