Motul 800 2T road racing

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Anyone ever used the road racing version of motul 800 for moto/Offroad? I could get a whole case for free but I’ve never tried it just curious. Right now I’m using the off road motul 800 and have always used it with no issues running 50:1 in my ‘17 TC250. From the research I’ve done it seems like the only issue is it might spooge a little more at low RPM since it’s designed for high RPM road racing applications.
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Teej317 11/3/2018 7:40pm
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paddyB745 wrote:
Anyone ever used the road racing version of motul 800 for moto/Offroad? I could get a whole case for free but I’ve never tried it just...
Anyone ever used the road racing version of motul 800 for moto/Offroad? I could get a whole case for free but I’ve never tried it just curious. Right now I’m using the off road motul 800 and have always used it with no issues running 50:1 in my ‘17 TC250. From the research I’ve done it seems like the only issue is it might spooge a little more at low RPM since it’s designed for high RPM road racing applications.
I'd be curious to know others thoughts on this as well. I use motul 800 off-road in my RM250 and it's a great product.
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paddyB745 wrote:
Anyone ever used the road racing version of motul 800 for moto/Offroad? I could get a whole case for free but I’ve never tried it just...
Anyone ever used the road racing version of motul 800 for moto/Offroad? I could get a whole case for free but I’ve never tried it just curious. Right now I’m using the off road motul 800 and have always used it with no issues running 50:1 in my ‘17 TC250. From the research I’ve done it seems like the only issue is it might spooge a little more at low RPM since it’s designed for high RPM road racing applications.
I would just stick with what you have.

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it probably has a pretty high flash point and if you are fast and on the gas like a pro, then it would work.

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barnett468 11/3/2018 10:57pm
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it probably has a pretty high flash point and if you are fast and on the gas like a pro, then it would work.
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Density at 20°C (68°F)
ASTM D1298
0.911

Viscosity at 40°C (104°F)
ASTM D445
120.2
mm²/s

Viscosity at 100°C (212°F)
ASTM D445
15.5
mm²/s

Viscosity index
ASTM D2270
135

Flash point
ASTM D92
252°C / 485°F
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I have used it with great success and I'm quite slow. When reading up on it, the offroad version should be called a "trail" version really.

The road version caters for an extended period of higher rpm, like if you're riding sand etc.
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jreeves884 9/27/2021 10:35am
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paddyB745 wrote:
Anyone ever used the road racing version of motul 800 for moto/Offroad? I could get a whole case for free but I’ve never tried it just...
Anyone ever used the road racing version of motul 800 for moto/Offroad? I could get a whole case for free but I’ve never tried it just curious. Right now I’m using the off road motul 800 and have always used it with no issues running 50:1 in my ‘17 TC250. From the research I’ve done it seems like the only issue is it might spooge a little more at low RPM since it’s designed for high RPM road racing applications.
I know it's been years now but did you have any luck? 800 is for sure the top tier 2stroke oil in the MOTUL line. If you race or ride aggressively this is the oil that you want. Did you give it a try?
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paddyB745 9/27/2021 11:56am
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paddyB745 wrote:
Anyone ever used the road racing version of motul 800 for moto/Offroad? I could get a whole case for free but I’ve never tried it just...
Anyone ever used the road racing version of motul 800 for moto/Offroad? I could get a whole case for free but I’ve never tried it just curious. Right now I’m using the off road motul 800 and have always used it with no issues running 50:1 in my ‘17 TC250. From the research I’ve done it seems like the only issue is it might spooge a little more at low RPM since it’s designed for high RPM road racing applications.
jreeves884 wrote:
I know it's been years now but did you have any luck? 800 is for sure the top tier 2stroke oil in the MOTUL line. If...
I know it's been years now but did you have any luck? 800 is for sure the top tier 2stroke oil in the MOTUL line. If you race or ride aggressively this is the oil that you want. Did you give it a try?
I burned through a few bottles with no issues. I wouldn’t hesitate to use it again. Only reason I used it was because it was free so if I had to choose between buying the 2 I’d probably buy the Offroad stuff just because that’s what it’s designed for.
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jreeves884 9/27/2021 1:31pm
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I burned through a few bottles with no issues. I wouldn’t hesitate to use it again. Only reason I used it was because it was free...
I burned through a few bottles with no issues. I wouldn’t hesitate to use it again. Only reason I used it was because it was free so if I had to choose between buying the 2 I’d probably buy the Offroad stuff just because that’s what it’s designed for.
Awesome! I work for MOTUL directly and I can reassure you that you were totally safe running that. Feel free to contact me if you have any other questions regarding MOTUL. I appreciate you running it back then and hopefully you are still using it.
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Awesome! I work for MOTUL directly and I can reassure you that you were totally safe running that. Feel free to contact me if you have...
Awesome! I work for MOTUL directly and I can reassure you that you were totally safe running that. Feel free to contact me if you have any other questions regarding MOTUL. I appreciate you running it back then and hopefully you are still using it.
I run 800 in my VMX RM125X and my Historic Road race bike - 1989 NSR250 (V twin 2 stroke)
300V in my modern MX, and Historic Road Race 1989 VFR400 (V4 4stroke)

I’ve never worried about getting the “off road” or “on road” version of each. Is there a difference? If so, what is it?
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jreeves884 10/4/2021 3:45pm
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I run 800 in my VMX RM125X and my Historic Road race bike - 1989 NSR250 (V twin 2 stroke) 300V in my modern MX, and...
I run 800 in my VMX RM125X and my Historic Road race bike - 1989 NSR250 (V twin 2 stroke)
300V in my modern MX, and Historic Road Race 1989 VFR400 (V4 4stroke)

I’ve never worried about getting the “off road” or “on road” version of each. Is there a difference? If so, what is it?
Skypig,

You are right not to worry. There is a difference but both versions are totally safe to run in either application. The OffRoad version is just a bit more robust for the type of riding OffRoad demands in reference to the difference of throttle action. The Road version is designed to work for the way an engine performs with the throttle being open longer, like going to down a freeway or straights on a track. OffRoad is designed to work with the on and off style of throttle work that comes in Moto or Woods riding. I hope that helps but remember neither is a bad choice but if you want to be very specific, you always have that option with MOTUL. Happy riding!
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Hey to this end, presumably the same applies to four stroke oil? I’ve been running 300v 10W-40 in my YZ450. Only just noticed it’s “road racing” spec. I mean I’ve had zero issues, it seems to work well. But since we have someone who knows in here
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If you watch the part at 3:34.00 of The Whiskey Throttle show with Ryan Dungey, they have a segment with the Motul Guru’s and they go through the differences between road and off-road applications - bloody good listen.

https://youtu.be/8BiX8Bsn7qY
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Hey to this end, presumably the same applies to four stroke oil? I’ve been running 300v 10W-40 in my YZ450. Only just noticed it’s “road racing”...
Hey to this end, presumably the same applies to four stroke oil? I’ve been running 300v 10W-40 in my YZ450. Only just noticed it’s “road racing” spec. I mean I’ve had zero issues, it seems to work well. But since we have someone who knows in here
You are correct! Both are fully able to meet the demands of your riding but if want the product designed for OffRoad specifically then you have that option. Glad to hear you are enjoying the Street version as well. Be safe and let me know if you have any other questions!
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If you watch the part at 3:34.00 of The Whiskey Throttle show with Ryan Dungey, they have a segment with the Motul Guru’s and they go...
If you watch the part at 3:34.00 of The Whiskey Throttle show with Ryan Dungey, they have a segment with the Motul Guru’s and they go through the differences between road and off-road applications - bloody good listen.

https://youtu.be/8BiX8Bsn7qY
Thank you for posting this! This is a great and quick insight to some of the great insight and details behind MOTUL. Dave is a legend in the lubricant world and they both are Motorcycle enthusiast! Enjoy!
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