Lighter Tires/Tubes?

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6/4/2019 1:34pm Edited Date/Time 7/2/2019 12:01pm
Currently have mx33 and heavy duty tubes. Since this 150sx is track only, I'm thinking about trying a lighter pair of tires and tubes next.

Any suggestions?

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garagedog wrote:
Currently have mx33 and heavy duty tubes. Since this 150sx is track only, I'm thinking about trying a lighter pair of tires and tubes next. Any...
Currently have mx33 and heavy duty tubes. Since this 150sx is track only, I'm thinking about trying a lighter pair of tires and tubes next.

Any suggestions?

Hoosiers mate. Lighter and grip better. Period.
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I run Dunlops on my KTM125 but normal weight tubes for sure. Sedona has a light weight normal tube.

I’ve tried using 26in mtn bike fat bike tubes and they are crazy light but actually had a hard time with front end feel. I should have rode them more, I just gave up on them after first day because I felt loose everywhere.
6/4/2019 6:19pm
as mentioned above, I think the hoosier tires are significantly lighter than most other tires.
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6/4/2019 11:17pm Edited Date/Time 6/4/2019 11:22pm
I have Schwalbe DH (downhill) bicycle tube in front. It weighs only 261 grams. In rear there is Maxxis Fat Bike tube that weighs 444 grams. Both are with schrader valve = normal not presta valve. Lightest tires are Michelin Starcross. I had Michelin Starcross Soft before but now I have Dunlop MX32F front and Dunlop D952 rear because the track I ride is not soft sand. Starcross Softs have very good grip but don´t last as long as those Dunlop´s.

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Thanks guys.
To add to it, I purchased Motion Pro plastic rim locks. The front is just .2oz lighter but the rear is like half the weight. I could feel the wheel wobble in the air with the stock locks.

Any suggestions as to where to buy Hoosier tires at a decent price?
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garagedog wrote:
Thanks guys. To add to it, I purchased Motion Pro plastic rim locks. The front is just .2oz lighter but the rear is like half the...
Thanks guys.
To add to it, I purchased Motion Pro plastic rim locks. The front is just .2oz lighter but the rear is like half the weight. I could feel the wheel wobble in the air with the stock locks.

Any suggestions as to where to buy Hoosier tires at a decent price?
Got them at FasterUSA, call and ask for Vince.
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Honda tubes, ktm tubes are a close second, if you want anything better, get tubliss, but it takes dedication to keep your rubber good, and rims are clean as new, but their silly flawed design of the tire inflation tube is made of stainless, and the threads will eventually wear through the plastic guard in place to protect the small high psi tube to seal the tire to the rim, and pop your inner tube, I got fed up with running them, but nothing feels like it, it's like you took weight off your entire bike.

Heavy duty tubes are for heavy four strokes and people who can't change tires without pinching tubes with irons
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garagedog wrote:
Currently have mx33 and heavy duty tubes. Since this 150sx is track only, I'm thinking about trying a lighter pair of tires and tubes next. Any...
Currently have mx33 and heavy duty tubes. Since this 150sx is track only, I'm thinking about trying a lighter pair of tires and tubes next.

Any suggestions?

Jrewing wrote:
Hoosiers mate. Lighter and grip better. Period.
lets see some weight comparison between the same size mx33 and hoosier please
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garagedog wrote:
Currently have mx33 and heavy duty tubes. Since this 150sx is track only, I'm thinking about trying a lighter pair of tires and tubes next. Any...
Currently have mx33 and heavy duty tubes. Since this 150sx is track only, I'm thinking about trying a lighter pair of tires and tubes next.

Any suggestions?

Jrewing wrote:
Hoosiers mate. Lighter and grip better. Period.
GCBC wrote:
lets see some weight comparison between the same size mx33 and hoosier please
Totes! WhAt he said, I am in love with how my 32f is in soft, but it sucks barrsack on hardpack, and I have a mx33 just needing to be mounted..... and I have a scale..... things to do when I get home Wink someone get the weight of the hoosier, I'll get the mx33's weight, aaaaand I'll even try and weigh the oem Honda tube I have for the front as well!
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But itle be super hard to weigh something so light Wink
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Save the surprise for when you choose to weigh them back to back
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I have no idea if we even have Hoosier mx tires up here in white Mexico buds
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I weighed a Bridgestone, Pirelli, and Dunlop 120/80/19 rear tire on a postage scale. I can't remember the exact ozs, but the Bridgestone was 13 lbs, Dunlop 12 lbs, and Pirelli 11 lbs. The Hoosier is supposed to be in the 9.5-10 lbs range.
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I just weighed my mx33, and Honda front tube, and i measured the weight a few times to make sure I wasn't getting a messed up weight, and it's average was a shade under 10lbs, and as for the Honda front tube, I managed to get a good average of about 4oz
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Weight: The Hoosier tires are extremely lightweight coming in at 8.02 pounds for the 80/100-21 front tire and 10.1 pounds for the 120/90-19 rear tire. Compared to a Dunlop MX33 front tire at 9.01 pounds and 12.04 pounds for the MX33 rear tire.
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You order the Hoosier tires straight from the factory. They ship free, but they're not cheap at $125 each
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I paid 109.00 northern pesos taxes in for my mx33, and I saw the Hoosier rubber review, and they look to be more closer to the Dunlop 32f/3s tires the 33's replaced, so I can see how they would be a good performer, my only real complain with the 32f/3s was how they transitioned over to hardpack and bluegroove, for that, the mx52's I found were the winner on hardpack, but also what they were designed around, but the 52 I found didn't do bad in sand either, as apposed to hold a line, they kinda slipped right into a groove or a pocket nicely and would lock up quite well into berms, and the 52 read vs the 3s, I found the 52 to be the better overal, for wear and traction in all areas, may have given up a sliver of grip over the 3s in soft, but the 3s in hardpack gave up waaay too much to the 52 rear. Neve ran the Hoosiers, and Iv been a Dunlop guy since trying the 52's and 32f/3s, but I'll never knock what I haven't tried, and a softer tire will grip better than a harder compound, plus that extra pound sounds appealing, but it might also contribute to a softer sidewall, and a more flexable carcas. Lots
To think about when it comes to choice in tires Smile but when your changing often, like weekly due to racing, then tire wear shouldn't be a concern
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Set of Hoosiers MX25s $215

Set of Michelin StarCross 5s $182 PLUS $30 rebate rebate right now makes an easy decision.
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red_leader wrote:
Weight: The Hoosier tires are extremely lightweight coming in at 8.02 pounds for the 80/100-21 front tire and 10.1 pounds for the 120/90-19 rear tire. Compared...
Weight: The Hoosier tires are extremely lightweight coming in at 8.02 pounds for the 80/100-21 front tire and 10.1 pounds for the 120/90-19 rear tire. Compared to a Dunlop MX33 front tire at 9.01 pounds and 12.04 pounds for the MX33 rear tire.
is this a legitimate number? thats one hell of a yuge difference! If you have access please let me know the lightest tube weights!
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red_leader wrote:
Weight: The Hoosier tires are extremely lightweight coming in at 8.02 pounds for the 80/100-21 front tire and 10.1 pounds for the 120/90-19 rear tire. Compared...
Weight: The Hoosier tires are extremely lightweight coming in at 8.02 pounds for the 80/100-21 front tire and 10.1 pounds for the 120/90-19 rear tire. Compared to a Dunlop MX33 front tire at 9.01 pounds and 12.04 pounds for the MX33 rear tire.
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is this a legitimate number? thats one hell of a yuge difference! If you have access please let me know the lightest tube weights!
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110 x 19” MX25 rear

MX25 21” front

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6/11/2019 10:27am Edited Date/Time 6/11/2019 10:28am
I want me one of them Hoosiers, my 32f just started to tear a few side knobs, and I like what the review and weight have to say aboot them, cuz I agree with what the review said aboot the 32f, that tire was bomb at almost bars to the ground grip levels,and still biting like nothing else, I owe'd my yz250's front end to that rubber, so if the Hoosiers is lighter and similar in performance, I gotta try one
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6/11/2019 10:45am Edited Date/Time 6/11/2019 11:20am
I weighed a Sedona front tube. 1lb, 3oz (539g). And it was about 1.5mm thick. Just FYI.
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6/17/2019 12:48pm Edited Date/Time 6/17/2019 12:51pm
so whats the lightest mx tube not a mtb tube?
also does anyone know the weight of a bike master tubes?
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I second the question.
What's the lightest mx tube Smile
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6/18/2019 11:01am Edited Date/Time 6/18/2019 11:06am
well I got them in and my weights are different of course... 7.85 front 11.09 rear...
my scales are the best around as I use them for one of my businesses so this isn't a factor have shitty scales. this is a huge discrepancy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


stock dunlop front tube is 470g, bike master front is 665g.
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GCBC wrote:
well I got them in and my weights are different of course... 7.85 front 11.09 rear... my scales are the best around as I use them...
well I got them in and my weights are different of course... 7.85 front 11.09 rear...
my scales are the best around as I use them for one of my businesses so this isn't a factor have shitty scales. this is a huge discrepancy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


stock dunlop front tube is 470g, bike master front is 665g.
Huge discrepancy compared to someone elses claim? Same tire, compound size?

Use your scale to compare against other tires yours might be higher than theirs.
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6/19/2019 11:40am Edited Date/Time 6/19/2019 11:43am
GCBC wrote:
well I got them in and my weights are different of course... 7.85 front 11.09 rear... my scales are the best around as I use them...
well I got them in and my weights are different of course... 7.85 front 11.09 rear...
my scales are the best around as I use them for one of my businesses so this isn't a factor have shitty scales. this is a huge discrepancy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


stock dunlop front tube is 470g, bike master front is 665g.
yz133rider wrote:
Huge discrepancy compared to someone elses claim? Same tire, compound size?

Use your scale to compare against other tires yours might be higher than theirs.
I did. Dunlops are the same. looks like hoosier has increased their weight.. even straight from hoosiers claims they are incorrectly stating the true weight of ~1lb on the same size mx33 rear and 4/5ths pound heavier on the fronts...
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7/2/2019 11:59am Edited Date/Time 7/2/2019 12:01pm
GCBC wrote:
well I got them in and my weights are different of course... 7.85 front 11.09 rear... my scales are the best around as I use them...
well I got them in and my weights are different of course... 7.85 front 11.09 rear...
my scales are the best around as I use them for one of my businesses so this isn't a factor have shitty scales. this is a huge discrepancy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


stock dunlop front tube is 470g, bike master front is 665g.
yz133rider wrote:
Huge discrepancy compared to someone elses claim? Same tire, compound size?

Use your scale to compare against other tires yours might be higher than theirs.
GCBC wrote:
I did. Dunlops are the same. looks like hoosier has increased their weight.. even straight from hoosiers claims they are incorrectly stating the true weight of...
I did. Dunlops are the same. looks like hoosier has increased their weight.. even straight from hoosiers claims they are incorrectly stating the true weight of ~1lb on the same size mx33 rear and 4/5ths pound heavier on the fronts...
Probably a construction difference. There are a couple different generations of 110/90-19 out. Part number 07191 is going to be lighter than 07192 which has the sidewall stiffened up so the extra material adds weight. The 07100 front should be a little lighter than the 07110 stiff sidewall front as well. If you have the tag off the tire check the sidewall on the rear if it has a c100 stamp its the newest stiff sidewall gen.

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