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4/28/2021 7:29pm
4/28/2021 7:29pm
I’ve been having a hell of a time getting my 2020CRF450R to lean/tip into corners. Everything I read says it has the best handling and ergos of its class. It feels like I’m trying to lean a wave runner. Everything wants to stand back up. The window of being perfectly balanced through a rut is so narrow there’s no wiggle room and it’s either a perfect lean angle in the corner and it feels ok or 90% of the rest of the time I can’t hit that narrow window and I’m using all my energy to push the bike down into the lean angle.
Ok so that’s what I’m feeling. On my 2012 Honda with same suspension I can lean with no effort. So technique and suspension being equal, what is making the difference? What I really want to know is how can I make my 2020 easier to lean?
From my research everything says offset makes turning better. Does this necessarily mean “lean” better? By decreasing trail with offset will the bike fall in easier?
Will I get an easier lean with different: offset (22mm currently, going to 20mm?), raising the forks in the clamps, moving the rear wheel forward on the axle blocks, lower/higher sag?
What do you boys and girls think? TIA
Ok so that’s what I’m feeling. On my 2012 Honda with same suspension I can lean with no effort. So technique and suspension being equal, what is making the difference? What I really want to know is how can I make my 2020 easier to lean?
From my research everything says offset makes turning better. Does this necessarily mean “lean” better? By decreasing trail with offset will the bike fall in easier?
Will I get an easier lean with different: offset (22mm currently, going to 20mm?), raising the forks in the clamps, moving the rear wheel forward on the axle blocks, lower/higher sag?
What do you boys and girls think? TIA
You might try taking some rebound out of the front forks and that will allow you to turn in tighter and less affect your stability before you go buying clamps
The Shop
Paw Paw
It’s Arizona hard pack/intermediate clay ruts mostly. I think the bike feels pretty good in loamy stuff, probably a product of the forks being level in the clamps instead of raised (need to find a happy medium)
20mm offset with xtrig rocs pro clamps (22 stock can go back to 22 whenever)
Forks raised 10mm from flush
HPSD oil weight to 20
12.5lbs air pressure in tires
100mm sag to 103mm sag
Bars set to neutral rolled back just barely in the middle position of the triple clamps with the clamps reversed this puts it +-3mm back from center/stock
Slowed front and rear rebound 3 clicks
Softer compression on the front forks by 8 clicks
Mid speed rear compression softer 3 clicks
High speed rear compression softer 5 clicks
...I don’t know if the clickers did too much on helping the bike specifically lean in but definitely making me feel more comfortable to push the bike in harder to the corner which helps getting more leaned naturally and liking the feedback of the bike through the corner.
Rode three days in a row. Saturday was moto groomed loam/deep ruts, Sunday was high speed whooped out desert, and Monday was back at moto hard pack square edge chop. I felt really good on all of it. The front end is definitely more reactive, but I prefer it. Straight line stability is acceptable even at 4th gear pinned through desert whoops and front end still handles well on a tight sandy turn track.
The bike is funnnnn to ride now. Thanks all
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