First time Yamaha 450(2018) owner.

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5/17/2018 12:44 AM
Edited Date/Time: 5/17/2018 4:01 AM

So i'm trading in my 2017 KTM for a new 2018 Yamaha 450 next week. I never thought i would get an Yamaha after i tried the 2017 last year but man the 2018 was completely different!

Well long story short. I really, really liked the 18 YZF 450 and this will be my first ever Yamaha (except a PW80 in the 90s).

What are things i should think about when owning it? And what about parts, what parts are interchangeable with other Yamahas (things like wheels, levers etc)? Just in case i find some decent used parts.

Thanks!

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Current fleet of two wheeled vehicles:
- KTM SX 250 2020
- Suzuki GSX-R 600 K7 track spec
- Canyon Sender CF 8.0 2018 Downhill
- Canyon Spectral:ON 7.0 2019 EMTB
- White GX Pro 20 Gravel

5/17/2018 1:01 AM

Might be making the same switch so following this thread w00t

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5/17/2018 3:30 AM

Wheels, levers, bars, forks, shock, pegs, is about it chassis wise. Engine wise not sure. Play with the tuner app, but you will probably end up with the Preston map. I use neken sfs clamps with low Honda bend bars. I also use the DrD slipon, it broadens 2nd and 3rd gear and sounds great. I purchased tusk wheels for practice, but if I had to do it again, I would look for a stock set. Twin air filter with a dry filter skin extends air filter cleanings. Unlike ktm when changing the oil not all of it comes out on drainage. So, I measure what comes out and replace. I use motorex or motul and change every 8-10 hours. I came off a husky and this Yamaha is even easier to maintain and have had no problems so far, knock on wood.

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5/17/2018 1:05 PM

swtwtwtw wrote:

Wheels, levers, bars, forks, shock, pegs, is about it chassis wise. Engine wise not sure. Play with the tuner app, but you ...more

Thanks for the answer! So the stock Yamaha wheels are good? DocWob has 2018 stock wheels for sale at eBay, i might buy a set. Then Im getting the suspension done and some bits and bobs.

Very exciting times ahead!

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Current fleet of two wheeled vehicles:
- KTM SX 250 2020
- Suzuki GSX-R 600 K7 track spec
- Canyon Sender CF 8.0 2018 Downhill
- Canyon Spectral:ON 7.0 2019 EMTB
- White GX Pro 20 Gravel

5/17/2018 1:08 PM

Keep an eye on the chain slider bolts, they do come loose after so long. Otherwise, do the oil, oil filter and air filter and you'll be good to guy. These bikes are so bullet proof!

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2017 RMZ450
2005 YZ250-sold :,(
1998 YZ250
2005 KX250F

80% of the time it works every time
IG @2HRacing
Thanks to : Factory Effex, N2Dirt, Acerbis, DT1, Fasthouse, Matix, FMF, ASV, 100% & Mika Metals

5/17/2018 1:26 PM

mattyhamz2 wrote:

Keep an eye on the chain slider bolts, they do come loose after so long. Otherwise, do the oil, oil filter and air filter and ...more

Noted!

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Current fleet of two wheeled vehicles:
- KTM SX 250 2020
- Suzuki GSX-R 600 K7 track spec
- Canyon Sender CF 8.0 2018 Downhill
- Canyon Spectral:ON 7.0 2019 EMTB
- White GX Pro 20 Gravel

5/17/2018 1:40 PM

Oh, almost forgot. The only other issue with Yamaha is the front wheel bearings. Not all of them go bad, but some do so keep an eye on them. I never had problems with my 14, but I do know of others having them go bad on 85's all the way up to 450's.

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2017 RMZ450
2005 YZ250-sold :,(
1998 YZ250
2005 KX250F

80% of the time it works every time
IG @2HRacing
Thanks to : Factory Effex, N2Dirt, Acerbis, DT1, Fasthouse, Matix, FMF, ASV, 100% & Mika Metals

5/17/2018 3:34 PM

mattyhamz2 wrote:

Oh, almost forgot. The only other issue with Yamaha is the front wheel bearings. Not all of them go bad, but some do so keep ...more

I believe the OEM bearings are unsealed. Best to run them until you need new ones and then get an aftermarket set.

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If you're not mixing gas, you're not haulin ass.

5/17/2018 3:36 PM

Also another tidbit, which I doubt is useful; you can swap triples to earlier years and use other forks and wheel set ups. I guess if you found a cheap A-kit it’d be handy laughing

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If you're not mixing gas, you're not haulin ass.

5/17/2018 5:08 PM

I have done the following changes to mine so far; Changed the bars to a set of Renthal Fat RC bend, new grips and throttle tube, and replaced the lower bar mounts with last years OEM which are 5mm lower. Raised the forks in the triple clamps 5mm, put on a Pro Circuit lowering link, and re-set sag to 110, added 1 tooth to the rear sprocket, and changed the footpegs to a set that are a little wider. Twin Air air filter.

Coming off YZ250F's('09,12, 15) for the last 9 years so I also plugged in a different map that toned down the engine hit from low to mid until I get use to it.

That is all I plan on doing for now.

Like someone else mentioned, front wheel bearings, not sure on my 18 YZ450F, but on all my previous YZ250F's replacing the front wheel bearings was on my regular maintenance schedule, typically every 4-6 months I would replace them depending on how much riding I was doing. I also kept an extra set in my spare parts box at all times because when they do go, they end up going really fast.

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5/17/2018 11:55 PM

RNagy052 wrote:

I have done the following changes to mine so far; Changed the bars to a set of Renthal Fat RC bend, new grips and throttle ...more

That is good to know, i'm going to put my Pro Taper EVO bars with the Carmichael bend on the bike but i might get the last years lower mounts if it still feels too high. So the sag is recommended at 110? The recommended sag on KTMs is 105.

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Current fleet of two wheeled vehicles:
- KTM SX 250 2020
- Suzuki GSX-R 600 K7 track spec
- Canyon Sender CF 8.0 2018 Downhill
- Canyon Spectral:ON 7.0 2019 EMTB
- White GX Pro 20 Gravel

5/18/2018 6:24 AM

Trash can the stock air filter...a ladies nylon stocking would work better....get a Twin Air and while your there get the wash cover so you dont have to worry about drowning your engine....Works Connection radiator braces are a must...clutch lever is a nice to have..I also got their axle blocks as they offer a finer resolution on the lines than the stock chain adjuster blocks...its a fun bike and hope you enjoy

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5/18/2018 7:41 AM

Motofinne wrote:

That is good to know, i'm going to put my Pro Taper EVO bars with the Carmichael bend on the bike but i might get the last ...more

Try 105 with the stock link, I run a little more sag with a lower link, which I just put on the bike.

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5/18/2018 7:45 AM

DAG wrote:

Trash can the stock air filter...a ladies nylon stocking would work better....get a Twin Air and while your there get the wash ...more

Yes, I am running the Twin Air Filter as well. Also, left one item out of my original post, but your post reminded me of it. I put on the Tusk Blue rear axle blocks with the white tick marks. I am 55 and trying to read the tick marks on the stock axle blocks when adjusting the chain was a pain in the ass. So much easier to see and adjust the chain with the aftermarket axle blocks.

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5/18/2018 9:00 AM

I rode an 18 back to back with a 17. the feel isn't THAT much different just felt thinner

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5/18/2018 9:55 AM
Edited Date/Time: 5/18/2018 9:56 AM

inner hub and pressure plate are the same but not basket. Might as well buy a new battery from Rocky Mountain for it. lost one at 4.5 hours and other bike at 9. Antigravity is the brand. LOTS more cranking amps. Iy will bump start!

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5/18/2018 10:19 AM

racer369 wrote:

inner hub and pressure plate are the same but not basket. Might as well buy a new battery from Rocky Mountain for it. lost one ...more

Which model battery??

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5/18/2018 11:28 AM

mattyhamz2 wrote:

Oh, almost forgot. The only other issue with Yamaha is the front wheel bearings. Not all of them go bad, but some do so keep ...more

TrailDigger wrote:

I believe the OEM bearings are unsealed. Best to run them until you need new ones and then get an aftermarket set.

They are. I bought a used bike and they were shot so I replaced them with sealed and so far they’re good.

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5/18/2018 1:02 PM
Edited Date/Time: 5/18/2018 1:23 PM

DAG wrote:

Trash can the stock air filter...a ladies nylon stocking would work better....get a Twin Air and while your there get the wash ...more

Yeah i have ordered 4 spare Twin Air filters. Have anyone bought the Twin Air Powerflow kit? Is it worth it?

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Current fleet of two wheeled vehicles:
- KTM SX 250 2020
- Suzuki GSX-R 600 K7 track spec
- Canyon Sender CF 8.0 2018 Downhill
- Canyon Spectral:ON 7.0 2019 EMTB
- White GX Pro 20 Gravel

5/18/2018 3:05 PM

I also agree on going with 105 on the stock link. I went up 5mm up with the forks, as well, and love the balance. Suspension is still stock (just clicker adjustments) and so far it has been great. I also immediately swapped the stock air filter for a twin air before even breaking it in and added radiator braces and a skid plate just for safe measures. I would recommend going with a 49T rear sprocket, but it is somewhat dependent on what/where you ride. Like it was mentioned above, the Preston map is the way to go as compared to the three stock maps that come on the map. Aside from changing bars, levers, grips, and a few other things just for personal preference and cosmetics (axle blocks, chain guide, reservoir cover, ignition cover, clutch cover, oil filter cover, full FMF system, etc.) there wasn't much needed to make the '18 great. The wheels are stock, triple clamps are stock, motor is stock, suspension is stock and the bike is great.

I am still looking to get a second battery for mine since I am still on the stock one (if anyone knows where one is in stock, I would love to know where) and a charger for them. I also will most likely be replacing the footpegs soon with something that has a little more grip/traction. Photo
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5/18/2018 5:12 PM

Reads like most of us have the same experience. One of the best battery related things I did was to buy a lithium battery charger. It is the only way to get a 100% charge , plus it checks condition.
I am riding Sunrise MX tomorrow morning.

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5/18/2018 11:51 PM

Btw do you have to "warm up" the battery like on a KTM when the temperature is low?

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Current fleet of two wheeled vehicles:
- KTM SX 250 2020
- Suzuki GSX-R 600 K7 track spec
- Canyon Sender CF 8.0 2018 Downhill
- Canyon Spectral:ON 7.0 2019 EMTB
- White GX Pro 20 Gravel

5/19/2018 2:03 AM

Motofinne wrote:

Btw do you have to "warm up" the battery like on a KTM when the temperature is low?

Doesn’t say to in the manual, but I do.

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5/19/2018 2:06 AM

Motofinne wrote:

Btw do you have to "warm up" the battery like on a KTM when the temperature is low?

swtwtwtw wrote:

Doesn’t say to in the manual, but I do.

Yeah that seems to be a thing with lithium ion batteries.

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Current fleet of two wheeled vehicles:
- KTM SX 250 2020
- Suzuki GSX-R 600 K7 track spec
- Canyon Sender CF 8.0 2018 Downhill
- Canyon Spectral:ON 7.0 2019 EMTB
- White GX Pro 20 Gravel

5/21/2018 6:38 AM

So i found a set of Excel/Haan wheels from a 2012 YZF 450 that are in great shape.

Unfortunately it seems like the front wheel wont fit. Can anyone explain what the difference is between the fitment of a YZF 2012 and 2018 front wheel? I wonder if i could get away with it by changing the spacers like on the KTMs?

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Current fleet of two wheeled vehicles:
- KTM SX 250 2020
- Suzuki GSX-R 600 K7 track spec
- Canyon Sender CF 8.0 2018 Downhill
- Canyon Spectral:ON 7.0 2019 EMTB
- White GX Pro 20 Gravel

5/22/2018 4:10 AM

I got an answer from Haan. I would be forced to change all the internals in the hub, that is something i'm not interested in doing. I'll go with brand new wheels. Does anyone have any experience with the Talon EVO wheels(Talon rims)?

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Current fleet of two wheeled vehicles:
- KTM SX 250 2020
- Suzuki GSX-R 600 K7 track spec
- Canyon Sender CF 8.0 2018 Downhill
- Canyon Spectral:ON 7.0 2019 EMTB
- White GX Pro 20 Gravel

5/30/2018 9:10 PM

All I've done with mine is lifted the forks 5mm sag at 105. Skid plate levers faast flex bars and that's all so far. Suspension is best I've ridden just stock I'd take it over my old factory connection valving any day. Motor is amazing this bike just feels so planted and hooks up so good.

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5/30/2018 9:37 PM

We (I) need a ride report Motofinne! w00t

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6/2/2018 9:10 AM
Edited Date/Time: 6/3/2018 12:49 AM

Lynch wrote:

We (I) need a ride report Motofinne! w00t

I love the bike, that is the short story haha... No but seriously, this is a fantastic bike.

Engine is awesome! The torque is incredible but the engine characteristic is very manageable(the powetuner app is brilliant). The suspension is really, really good. My fork is a bit stiff, that is my only complaint at the moment regarding the suspension (i have it 2 clicks slower on the rebound at the moment, stock was way too fast). The cornering is so stable, you know exactly what the bike will do when you corner. Its probably one of the easier bikes to corner while standing on the pegs. The smaller size of the bike fits me perfectly.

Like i said earlier, the only minus is the weight. I know there are idiots (yes, these people are idiots) that think weight doesn't matter but it does. Weight is weight. And cutting down my bodyweight wont change the fact that the YZF 450 is a relatively heavy bike. It is clearly heavier than my old KTM and it is noticeable. Especially if the backend kicks out on a worn down jump with a kicker. But the weight distribution on the bike and the centralization of the weight makes it a non problem when you are on the ground. You only notice it in the air. The only thing i can think of that Yamah could do with the next generation 450 is the weight, everything else is amazing.


You should get one wink

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Current fleet of two wheeled vehicles:
- KTM SX 250 2020
- Suzuki GSX-R 600 K7 track spec
- Canyon Sender CF 8.0 2018 Downhill
- Canyon Spectral:ON 7.0 2019 EMTB
- White GX Pro 20 Gravel

6/2/2018 3:51 PM

Suspension gets even better at +20hrs. I was told that and it’s true. Yup one fun bike.

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